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(Kmart Raid) Sonic officials say raid at restaurant unwanted
Houston Chronicle ^ | Aug. 22, 2002, 11:38PM | ROMA KHANNA

Posted on 08/22/2002 10:17:51 PM PDT by niki

Sonic officials say raid at restaurant unwanted

By ROMA KHANNA

A yellow traffic light was the difference between freedom and detention for several people who were arrested as they waited to drive out of a west Houston parking lot last weekend as police began a controversial raid.

Natalee Torres, her boyfriend and three friends were leaving the Sonic Drive-In at 8404 Westheimer on their motorcycles about 12:30 a.m. Sunday when a traffic light at the exit changed. Two made it through the light; the others were left behind.

"Out of nowhere, 50 cop cars came out and blocked every entrance," said Torres, a 21-year-old student at Wharton Community College. "We had no idea what was going on. They told us to get off our bikes and go to the back of the parking lot."

Torres and the hundreds of others in a parking lot shared by the Sonic and a 24-hour Kmart Super Center were the targets of a police raid, led by Capt. Mark Aguirre, to curb illegal drag racing. The raid, and a similar one at a nearby James Coney Island on Saturday, have prompted complaints that the 278 arrests excessively punished loitering teens -- not drag racers -- and included legitimate customers.

Sonic officials said Thursday that they never complained to police about the regular weekend crowd, had no warning of the raid and ordered employees to protect customers as the operation began.

Dismayed Sonic employees refused to allow police to tow 12 cars that the arrested customers were forced to leave in the lot.

"We wanted the opportunity for our customers to come get their cars without paying towing charges," said Celina Abernathy, a Sonic spokeswoman. Such charges can exceed $100. "Obviously we don't want our customers arrested. That is just common sense."

Sonic has never warned trespassers, filed complaints or signed paperwork to allow police to make arrests under the city trespassing ordinance, Abernathy said. Kmart officials have declined to explain the steps they took before the arrests.

"We have no no-trespassing signs on our property, though there are some nearby," Abernathy said. "And we never signed any paperwork."

Sonic officials are waiting for the result of a Houston Police Department internal investigation before they decide whether to pursue further action.

Many of those arrested will not be as patient.

Torres, who said she still has bruises from the plastic handcuffs, has retained Houston lawyer Rocket Rosen.

"I feel violated and confused," Torres said. "It was unbelievable the way they treat you like animals. I have never been subject to anything like that."

Torres recalled the force used against a driver who was next to her in front of the traffic signal when the raid began. He tried to complete a right turn onto Westheimer, but police ordered him out of the car.

"They threw him on the back of his truck," Torres said of the police, "and yelled for him to get to the back."

Rosen said he will fight the charges and explore the possibility of lawsuits.

"They didn't know what hit them," Rosen said. "Clearly the police were out of control here. I am hoping that once it comes to judges and prosecutors they admit they made a mistake and drop charges. But it will not end there."

As lawsuits are weighed, the Harris County district attorney's office has said it will examine the arrests. Tommy La Fon, lead prosecutor investigating police in the Kmart arrests, said it's too early to say if the case will be presented to a grand jury.

"We're trying to get a hold on all the facts and circumstances," said La Fon, who works for the district attorney's Police Integrity Division. "I don't have enough information to say this happened or that happened."

La Fon said his office has issued subpoenas and also has asked HPD for information.

"Once we look at the circumstances, ultimately it will be like any other case," La Fon said. "If there's evidence of criminal misconduct, it will be presented to a grand jury. If there is no criminal misconduct, we'll close it with a letter saying we won't be prosecuting."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; kmart; policestate
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1 posted on 08/22/2002 10:17:51 PM PDT by niki
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To: niki
I always wondered about the Sonic and now I see I was right. My friend was an assistant manager in the late 70's and he ran the police off the lot whenever they would show up to hassle teenagers. The manager there also kept the police off also. Good to see they tried to protect their customers and preventing needless towing of customer cars. Tomorrow I am eating at SONIC.

Now K Mart, well I can see Wal-Mart ads coming soon. "We don't have our customers arrrested"

K Mart is already in deep doo doo and now they're going to scare off late night shoppers from their 24 hour store. I bet their business drops off BIG TIME after dark.
2 posted on 08/22/2002 10:29:38 PM PDT by packrat35
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To: Dog Gone; AndrewSmith; sweetliberty; USA21; Fixit; JediGirl; FITZ; neutrino; Diddle E. Squat; ...
Kmart/Sonics Raid - More information
3 posted on 08/22/2002 10:30:59 PM PDT by niki
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To: niki
It will be interesting to see what happens this weekend.

The news media will be out in full force, with their cameras.

4 posted on 08/22/2002 10:40:32 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: niki
This just gets better and better. You'd figure that at least one of these 50 officers would have realized that this was going to be a PR nightmare and an attorney's dream.
5 posted on 08/22/2002 10:46:32 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: freebilly
How long will it take for someone to say "Sonic deserved it anyway"?
6 posted on 08/22/2002 10:49:15 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: freebilly
Smart people are not cops. Anyone with an above average inteligence is not hired. People have sued to become cops after testing too smart and lost.

They want cops who will follow orders without question. Arrest now and sort it out latter is all they know.

I'm not comparing it to the SS though. These cops are also taught to never draw their weapon unless drawn upon first. They are also taught to use minimal violence. I only heard of them being violent with one person who tried to get away.

I hope Houston is sued into bankruptcy over this.
7 posted on 08/22/2002 10:56:27 PM PDT by ImphClinton
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To: niki
KMart is shocked - SHOCKED! - to find out that drag racing is going on here!


8 posted on 08/22/2002 11:00:47 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: ImphClinton
I hope Houston is sued into bankruptcy over this.

What a dilemma! I agree that the HPD should be sued, but the idea of any attorney making $$$ off this suit just turns my stomach....

9 posted on 08/22/2002 11:12:14 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: niki
Raid on Kmart lot leaves shock, anger
Raid on Kmart lot leaves shock, anger
Raid on Kmart lot leaves shock, anger
Raid went to 'hell in a handbasket' Officers say Kmart bust was flubbed
Policing the police after Kmart raid
Raid at hot dog joint preceded Kmart bust
10 posted on 08/23/2002 12:24:48 AM PDT by Djarum
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To: niki
Kickbacks to cops by wrecker outfits aren't unheard of.

Has anyone brought up the possibility?

11 posted on 08/23/2002 12:58:39 AM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: packrat35
Ironically, there IS a Wal-Mart directly across the street.
12 posted on 08/23/2002 4:22:57 AM PDT by jammer
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To: niki
Yep, I'm going to have to go down to a Sonic and order some crow in response to my assessment on the initial thread. Seems clear now that someone ordered a PR event, arrest first, ask questions later.

Hope it scalds Lee P. Brown.
13 posted on 08/23/2002 4:55:26 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: niki
I don't have time to post it, but there is a good update @ Yahoo News that you might want to post.

It talks about the investigation, and the possible penalties for officers who were "just following orders".

link

14 posted on 08/23/2002 4:55:53 AM PDT by Fixit
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To: Free Trapper
Yep, I wondered that, too.

Several years ago I used to lift after work at a Gold's Gym on Richmond in the Galleria area. One night some friends met me, and we went out for the evening leaving my car parked in the gym lot. Came back around 11pm, and my car had been towed, within an hour of the club closing. Called the gym the next day to discuss, and the manager's response was "F. U."

Gold's Gym never again got another membership dollar from me.
15 posted on 08/23/2002 5:06:38 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
There was an interesting call made to a morning talk show here in Houston today.

The caller was a 41 year old man. He and his wife were on their way home from a night playing dominoes with his parents and they had their 5-year old girl, who was asleep, in the back seat of their 2002 Cadillac sedan. They hardly looked like street punks.

They pulled into that parking lot to get a milkshake at Sonic. They never made it. A policeman waved them down, told them to get out of the car and arrested them. The man tried to ask why, but the cop just told them to put their hands behind their backs and he handcuffed them. They spent the night in jail.

It's this type of report that makes my blood boil, and the very few folks at this forum who continue to support and defend what the police did here do not deserve to live in a free society. I am ashamed of them.

16 posted on 08/23/2002 5:50:04 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: niki
Police State is when the cops act without fear of prosecution for their crimes. I'd say we have one.
17 posted on 08/23/2002 6:23:41 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: PatrioticAmerican
Congressman John Culberson, who represents this part of Houston, was on the radio here in Houston this morning. He is outraged by what happened and he said he hopes those arrested sue the Department.

I wonder what this does to Houston's bid for the Olympics in 2012. It doesn't do much for the image of hospitality when you can spend the night in jail for getting a milkshake after midnight!

18 posted on 08/23/2002 6:55:23 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: packrat35
"I can see Wal-Mart ads coming soon. "We don't have our customers arrrested"

LOL! Actually, in one of the articles I have read about this case a manager at K-mart said that he had NOT called the cops. There may have been complaints previously, but I got the impression that they were just as surprised by the attack raid as everybody else was.

19 posted on 08/23/2002 6:59:10 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Dog Gone
"It's this type of report that makes my blood boil, and the very few folks at this forum who continue to support and defend what the police did here do not deserve to live in a free society. I am ashamed of them."

Well, I have noticed that the champions of the cops on the earlier threads have either gone silent, changed their opinion or been banned as the story unfolds.

20 posted on 08/23/2002 7:04:42 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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