I simply have no idea.
Hey, care to reply to my little poll? Are you infavor of blanket, partial, or no Amnesty at all for Illegal Aliens?
Posted on 08/22/2002 7:04:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth
This is a vanity post, let's get that straight from the start.
Perhaps the most vain aspect of it is the conceit that it might stay on topic, but I'm going to give it a whirl.
One of the more contentious species of threads encountered on Free Republic are those dealing with the subject of America's immigration policy, particularly with regard to the Illegal Aliens currently in our country. According a range of reasonable sources, the estimates of their numbers here currently here range from six to thirteen million. Whatever the actual count, there are quite a few people now in violation of American immigration law.
One subtopic that inevitably arises is the question of Amnesty:
Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?
That's the question I'd like to put forward to the members of Free Republic.
Almost as inevitably on threads dealing with this subject, flame wars erupt. It's not my purpose to instigate another round of that, they're rather predictable. So I'd like to ask that your comments, if you're inclined to share them, focus on the big picture of American immigration policy, with particular attention to the subject of Amnesty. I'm not interested in the stock and gratuitous divisiveness of race-baiting or referring to the President as "Jorge," or anything of that nature from any quarter. It achieves nothing, it's sulphurous methane heat with no light shed.
I'd also like to avoid ad hominem ambushes. I'm genuinely interested in learning the collective feelings of Free Republic members on this subject. If you're gonna post, I'd like to ask that you ante up with your opinion on the question at hand before engaging the discussion with others. No taking potshots from the obscurity of the sidelines. I'll post my opinion below at #1.
Fair enough?
So, once again, here's the question:
Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?
I simply have no idea.
Hey, care to reply to my little poll? Are you infavor of blanket, partial, or no Amnesty at all for Illegal Aliens?
Agreed, but I'm referring to my proposal for amnesty, which is for those aliens already here and married for 5 years, not any new illegals.
Also, since so many Illegals and Amnestees are such huge users of government largesse, they take away from all who are taxed to fund their needs and wants.
Also true, but in my proposal, to be eligible, the alien must never have used any federal welfare program.
The family is separated or "torn apart" when the first member emigrates to America. That's a decision they make on their own, America is not responsible for it.
Agreed, buy once again, I'm speaking of my proposal, which would be for illegals that came here and then married a US citizen.
Like all amnesties, this applies only to illegal aliens already in the country for the selected period of time, not any new illegals or illegals here that do not meet the strict requirements.
I see... and if the President should make a stand against any and all Amnesties?
HA!!
I see you've met the resident...whateverinthehellITis.
Gotta tell ya, 'Cat; my hat's off to you.
It really is.
You've more patience than I'll ever have (~by some exponent level); for, even attempting to deal with that bonifide nut, in such a respectful manner.
...just be careful, though; whateverinthehellITis *has* might be catching.
Nope, absolutely not. In fact recent studies in human genealogy have shown that the human race is incredibly close in genetics as compared with just about any mammal specie. I do believe that the more different a culture is from our own American/Western Culture the longer it takes for assimilation. History is replete with examples of this.
Any more race baiting questions?
You know where he stands and you know where I stand on immigration. I support him and his policies. In fact, I hope some day he'll go even farther. Until they, you're either with our President or against him. I am with him. Where are you?
Nope, but why would you shill for an organization with racist ties?
Can you point to anything I said that would suggest such a smear? You again have shown yourself unable to advance your arguments without using the race card. You really are one desperate, despicable soul.
If anyone is guilty of being extreme on this tread it is you. And I believe the time has come for you to Fess Up.
Are you a Communist? I mean you like their methods of censoring free speech so much I have to believe that you have some special kinship there. What about it?
FAIR is a HIGHLY RESPECTED Immigration Reform organization that has NO RACIST ties.
What I would like to know is why you advocate the very same unlimited immigration position as the Communist Party does, not to mention their lite-version in the Democratic Party? Why would you do this? Are you a Communist or some low life DU disruptor? Let's come clean here.
Nope I am not Anti-Semitic. You would know this if you had read any of my past posts on the Middle East/Israel-Palestine conflict. Still waiting on the: Are you a Communist question?
I'm flagging here because you've posted on this thread, and I'm keeping a running tally of the answers to the question:
Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?
Responses to this very unscientific poll are breaking down into the following categories:
1. Support blanket Amnesty
2. Support partial Amnesty
3. Support no Amnesty
4. Did not state
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to tell from your replies on the thread what your answer would be. While I think I have an idea for some of you, there have been a few surprises, so I've scored you as "Did not state."
If you'd like to clarify that, let me know.
Thanks.
No, you have proven yourself to be quite the dense one here. It's well known, and found in Communist Manifestos that Communists find the instability that massive 3rd world immigration brings to western nations very appealing.
AGAIN, you continue to dodge my question.
Are you a Communist?
Why would a communist government want to destablize its own ruling authority? I really think you should reconsider my question of density. You're not doing a very good job here.
Oh, come on. You know what AIT's response will be. Don't you guys belong to the same clan?
1. Support blanket Amnesty -
2. Support partial Amnesty -
3. Support no Amnesty -
4. Did not state -1
7
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14
You may notice that the tally for "Did not state" has declined since the last update. A few folks clarified their positions, thus the change.
I'll update this periodically. If you've not offered an opinion yet, please feel free to do so. Or if you know people who haven't, feel free to flag them here.
Thanks.
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