By evidence, I don't mean an opinion that echoes yours, I mean actual, sourced quotations from FAIR that you hold to be racist, about which we can form our own opinions.
Posted on 08/22/2002 7:04:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth
This is a vanity post, let's get that straight from the start.
Perhaps the most vain aspect of it is the conceit that it might stay on topic, but I'm going to give it a whirl.
One of the more contentious species of threads encountered on Free Republic are those dealing with the subject of America's immigration policy, particularly with regard to the Illegal Aliens currently in our country. According a range of reasonable sources, the estimates of their numbers here currently here range from six to thirteen million. Whatever the actual count, there are quite a few people now in violation of American immigration law.
One subtopic that inevitably arises is the question of Amnesty:
Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?
That's the question I'd like to put forward to the members of Free Republic.
Almost as inevitably on threads dealing with this subject, flame wars erupt. It's not my purpose to instigate another round of that, they're rather predictable. So I'd like to ask that your comments, if you're inclined to share them, focus on the big picture of American immigration policy, with particular attention to the subject of Amnesty. I'm not interested in the stock and gratuitous divisiveness of race-baiting or referring to the President as "Jorge," or anything of that nature from any quarter. It achieves nothing, it's sulphurous methane heat with no light shed.
I'd also like to avoid ad hominem ambushes. I'm genuinely interested in learning the collective feelings of Free Republic members on this subject. If you're gonna post, I'd like to ask that you ante up with your opinion on the question at hand before engaging the discussion with others. No taking potshots from the obscurity of the sidelines. I'll post my opinion below at #1.
Fair enough?
So, once again, here's the question:
Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?
It's your transparent arguments, your brother's biased opinions, twisted poll results, Bush's half quotes taken out of context and a poll from the LIBERAL, New York Times you use to try to win an argument.
Look at all of the questions I've asked you that you're trying to avoid with this new tactic of false indignation.
-If they read any of Bush's COMPLETE quotes, in context, would a Republican conservative get the impression Bush was going to propose an amnesty or a 245(i) extension, after he was elected?
-Your biased brother's opinion that a small percentage of Mexicans believe that the American Southwest belongs to them and therefore Aztlan/Reconquista is a fringe group trumps a Zogby poll that says it's more like 58%?
If the respondents to one of your polls had only increasing or decreasing immigration levels to choose from, it would be 49% decreasing versus 48% increasing? A virtual dead heat? The whole 36% that said stay the same would then vote to increase immigration rates?
A liberal New York Time's poll proves that immigration isn't a concern for any voters? Not even conservative voters, because the New York Times doesn't ask a question about it? That's not a false, totally misleading and grossly, erroneous assumption?
It's your tactics I have a problem with, Chutch.
Does anyone, but liberals, use them?
LOL, nothing like referencing a left-wing, politically correct organization to buttress you warped views. Says much about your political orientation.
Do you have a problem with a historicly fine jewish civil rights group? The Holocaust didnt happen right WRhine McKinny?
What Bogus polls?
you are both.
By evidence, I don't mean an opinion that echoes yours, I mean actual, sourced quotations from FAIR that you hold to be racist, about which we can form our own opinions.
What is that supposed to mean? That if I disagree on some policy positions with a Jewish special interest group I am somehow anti-Jewish? You are a Creep. Take your cheap shots and low brow smears somewhere else JERK.
Self-descriptive, if misspelled.
Anything to offer besides Leftist hearsay?
Oh this Pioneer Fund gave money to FAIR! What an expose! As reported in the New York Times mind you! The Bastion of Truth for all liberally minded people. Perhaps we should examine where the Democratic Party and their adjunct leftist special interest groups, that just happen to like open borders, get some of their money from too. Want to bet that a study here would show contributions from every radical, communist, subversive, America hating group under the sun? Or is that kind of support OK with you. Somehow I think it is.
It hurts to be outted, doesn't it?
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