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AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS? (a question for Freepers)
August 22nd, 2002 | Sabertooth

Posted on 08/22/2002 7:04:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth

This is a vanity post, let's get that straight from the start.

Perhaps the most vain aspect of it is the conceit that it might stay on topic, but I'm going to give it a whirl.

One of the more contentious species of threads encountered on Free Republic are those dealing with the subject of America's immigration policy, particularly with regard to the Illegal Aliens currently in our country. According a range of reasonable sources, the estimates of their numbers here currently here range from six to thirteen million. Whatever the actual count, there are quite a few people now in violation of American immigration law.

One subtopic that inevitably arises is the question of Amnesty:

Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?

That's the question I'd like to put forward to the members of Free Republic.

Almost as inevitably on threads dealing with this subject, flame wars erupt. It's not my purpose to instigate another round of that, they're rather predictable. So I'd like to ask that your comments, if you're inclined to share them, focus on the big picture of American immigration policy, with particular attention to the subject of Amnesty. I'm not interested in the stock and gratuitous divisiveness of race-baiting or referring to the President as "Jorge," or anything of that nature from any quarter. It achieves nothing, it's sulphurous methane heat with no light shed.

I'd also like to avoid ad hominem ambushes. I'm genuinely interested in learning the collective feelings of Free Republic members on this subject. If you're gonna post, I'd like to ask that you ante up with your opinion on the question at hand before engaging the discussion with others. No taking potshots from the obscurity of the sidelines. I'll post my opinion below at #1.

Fair enough?

So, once again, here's the question:

Should all or some portion of the Illegal Aliens be granted an Amnesty and be thereby allowed to change their status and acquire legal residence in the United States?



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To: Torie; VA Advogado
Allow me. Please see post 126, I'm sure it was meant for you.
341 posted on 08/22/2002 10:50:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Texasforever
Don't hold your breath.

I'm not a bad free diver but this is ridiculous.

342 posted on 08/22/2002 10:51:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
I agree with that. Abortion must be stopped. A society that condones the murder of children is one that is destined to disappear.
343 posted on 08/22/2002 10:51:56 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: nopardons
I think that you are confusing this thread with another.
344 posted on 08/22/2002 10:52:33 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: jwalsh07
It won't do any good. I have a closed mind on Pat. If one had an open mind on everything, one would go insane. As it is, sometimes I feel on the cusp. :)
345 posted on 08/22/2002 10:53:35 PM PDT by Torie
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To: nopardons
You want to see it, go reread this entire thread. Have you becime a moderator ?

No, but I've made an effort at the top of this thread, and throughout, to try and ratchet down the venom. I've had a lot of conversations with folks who don't post on threads relating to this issue because of all of the bile. I thought I'd try and do something different.

I may have missed a negative comment toward you, but when I chased the posts where you started demanding an apology, I didn't find it.




346 posted on 08/22/2002 10:54:35 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Texasforever; Torie
I've never known Torie to be anything but civil, whether we were agreeing or not.



347 posted on 08/22/2002 10:56:21 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: FreedomFriend
I'm " sympathetic " to ILLEGAL immigration ? THEN PROVE IT ; CCP EVERY SINGLE OF MY PREVIOUS POSTS, WHEREIN I'VE STATED THAT I AM " SYMPATHETIC TO ILLEGALS , OR PUBLICLY APOLOGISE !

Oh, I " don't go far enough " ? Unlike you, no, I don't say : round 'em up and KILL them all. I guess that anything else, is hyretical, as far as you're concerned. LOL

You're delusional, putting words in other's mouths, which they have NEVER typed. Don't deny it ; the post, that I am answering now, is a prime example of your mental problems.

348 posted on 08/22/2002 10:56:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
No, I wasn't tongue tied, but merely responding to previous threds.
349 posted on 08/22/2002 10:57:31 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Torie
As it is, sometimes I feel on the cusp. :)

Well, when I was young and dangerous I used to get in the cups, which is an ole Irish saying. :-}

350 posted on 08/22/2002 10:57:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Sabertooth
For the latest, look at post 337. That is his usual lying garbage.
351 posted on 08/22/2002 10:58:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FreedomFriend
I've lived in Calcutta, and LA at it's worst would be better than Calcutta at it's best.
352 posted on 08/22/2002 11:01:06 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Torie; Texasforever
Well, time to hit the hay, I'll probably be up all night counting illegal aliens.
353 posted on 08/22/2002 11:01:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: gubamyster
Very true.
354 posted on 08/22/2002 11:02:15 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: jwalsh07
Your point? Did I ever say that welfare was increasing. No, I did not. I stated that people take to receiving welfare. Yes, I know that welfare has been reformed over the past few years. What is it, five years maximum, of which the individual has to prove that he/she has found work? At least, that is what I remember was being discussed in my public policy classes.
355 posted on 08/22/2002 11:03:40 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Sabertooth
No, but I've made an effort at the top of this thread, and throughout, to try and ratchet down the venom.

Considering this most out of control, wild fire issue, It's been very civil....

356 posted on 08/22/2002 11:05:46 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Torie
Is that a flaming? Can we not comment on individuals indirectly, even after they've made comments on the thread? Perhaps I should have flagged him.
357 posted on 08/22/2002 11:05:53 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: jwalsh07
Counting fictive objects of the mind (ala sheep) is supposed to be a soporific. I have confidence that you will sleep well, particularly when it is 2 am in the morning Lieberman/Dodd/Kennedy/Kennedy (RI)/Jeffords/Hillary/Leahy/Chafee country time.
358 posted on 08/22/2002 11:06:08 PM PDT by Torie
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To: PRND21
The ol' famous, "Got a link".
359 posted on 08/22/2002 11:06:22 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
No, I wasn't tongue tied, but merely responding to previous threds.

LOL You have not responded to another thread since 10:58 PM CST last night. My initial post to you was a bit after 11 pm CST. Dang at least don't lie.

360 posted on 08/22/2002 11:08:43 PM PDT by Texasforever
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