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You want to see it, go reread this entire thread. Have you becime a moderator ?

No, but I've made an effort at the top of this thread, and throughout, to try and ratchet down the venom. I've had a lot of conversations with folks who don't post on threads relating to this issue because of all of the bile. I thought I'd try and do something different.
I may have missed a negative comment toward you, but when I chased the posts where you started demanding an apology, I didn't find it.

For the latest, look at post 337. That is his usual lying garbage.

No, but I've made an effort at the top of this thread, and throughout, to try and ratchet down the venom.

Considering this most out of control, wild fire issue, It's been very civil....

Saber... I have been occaisionally checking in on this thread you pinged me to and I wasn't going to offer my opinion on this issue because of the usual tone these threads have. I understand the concerns everyone has on this 226 year old issue, as well as I understand and recognize the incredible task of trying to secure our borders in a way that doesn't hinder our trade relations with our nieghbors as well as our ability to export our goods to the north and south.

I read the majority of the responses to your "question for Freepers" and my only concern is what qualifies an alien as an illegal. I am totally against any alien being granted amnesty for coming here by way of illegally crossing our borders. I do have sympathy for those who have tried to follow the requirements for what it takes to become a legal contributor to our way of life and by no fault of their own the INS has failed to deliver on the application for residency. I feel these people deserve priority status. As far as the people who came here by the way of illegal border crossing, I feel we should deport them with the warning if they attempt to thwart our system again they and their family will be banned from ever becoming a citizen.

With that said... How can any reasonable person hold this administration responsible for decades of neglect by the INS? I know the NYT's have done their best to make many of us who havn't witnessed the gross neglegence of the INS for not confronting the problems with our immigration policies of the past and present.

My question for you would be..... name an administration that has done more to secure our borders than GWB? (I know 9/11 is a huge factor) but I challenge anyone to show me a signed bill that grants amnesty or even a single quote where this President has asked Congress to present him a bill that even comes close to what Ronald Reagan signed into law?

I've heard all the "He would of signed 245i" arguments and the "Jorge Bush" remarks. But the fact remains that we have made improvements on our border security. Have they been enough? "NO" Is it a start? "YES" Will we be able to solve these problems overnight "NO"....

My debate with you has been the same on this issue.... Does it do any good to divide conservatives on this issue ? or does it make sense to recognize the fact that with this president and the aftermath of 9/11 our border issues are at least being addressed. That's far more attention and progress I've seen in my lifetime. I will end this rant by saying... The NYT's and other left wing liberal publications love nothing more than to see this issue divide conservatives. They know very well it's an issue that can't be fixed by a single stroke of a pen or a veto or two. My suggestion to you and others is to contact your represenatives and hold their feet to the fire rather than expecting this President or any President to have the magic pill. NO amnesty bill has been signed and the President has never offered one. I say follow the laws on the books and enforce them vigorously.

Sorry for the long rant, But you, as well as many others have labeled me as an open borders flunkie because I disagree with your assumptions on who is to blame for our immigration policies.