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Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers
FatherMag.com ^ | August 22, 2002 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 08/22/2002 6:45:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay


Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers

August 22, 2002
By Roger F. Gay

America's Most Wanted put it like this:

Catalino Morales is wanted for the attempted homicide of five deputy sheriff’s in Allentown, Pennsylvania and for failure to pay back child support.

On Saturday, morning, December 9, 2000, eight deputies in Lehigh county Pennsylvania broke into Catalino Morales' home to serve an arrest warrant charging him with failure to make child support payments. According to the deputies, Morales barricaded himself in a second-floor bedroom and fired two shots through a closed door. He then shot out a back window, jumped onto a flat roof, and onto the ground where it is alleged that he shot at a deputy. The deputy returned fire but no one was injured. Morales escaped the immediate area.

Police say Morales then entered a house in the neighborhood and held a family of four hostage for several hours. The standoff ended when one of the residents managed to wrestle the gun out of Morales’ hands and Morales fled the scene. A massive hunt ensued, including search dogs, helicopters, and Allentown police; to no avail.

On the night of June 20, 2001 a SWAT team in Hartford, Connecticut surrounded Morales in a housing complex and shots were fired. No policepersons were injured in the encounters. Morales was hit by three of 25 police bullets, permanently damaging his hand and his leg and endangering the lives of the nearby residents.

He is a father. He is a man. He is allegedly behind in making "child support" payments.

It is unlikely that the child support system will be put on trial in defense of Catalino Morales, but it should be. Under heavy influence from a profit-driven collection industry the process of determining the amount of child support ordered and enforcement practices have changed dramatically within the past fifteen years. Political corruption is rampant and obvious not only to those who have studied the system closely but to many fathers who have been forced into subjugation by it.

Millions of men are treated arbitrarily and unfairly to a degree that compromises or destroys their chance to maintain themselves, let alone get on with a normal life. Many cannot do what the system requires them to do. Add to that years of harassment and threats from a long list of strangers, including half-witted pimple-faced high school drop-outs trying to collect to make a commission and female bureaucrats, possibly former welfare mothers, who revel in the opportunity to emasculate men. There is no escape, no reason. Every politician says so. Men and women with more power than moral character constantly remind them that this is what fatherhood is all about.

Then other strangers arrive with guns and invade their homes with the intent of taking them prisoner. They are experiencing the horror of a dictatorial police state.

Catalino Morales is one of many canaries in the child support coal mines. Year after year we watch the canaries die yet the workers are not allowed to leave. Those among us who have the opportunity to communicate are morally obligated to pass the word. This system must be abandoned as quickly as possible whether the masters wish it or not.

In the early 1990s, millions of fathers first experienced the suspension of constitutional law in domestic relations courts and the transition to enforcement of arbitrary en masse central political decisions. The new system seems designed to ruin men's lives. Decisions are arbitrarily based on statistical projections that have no basis in reality. State governments are encouraged to take as much from fathers as possible in order to increase the amount of federal funds they receive. "Public-private partnerships" formed with private collection agencies that benefit from higher child support awards and greater debt. Industry representatives control much of the policy making process, including the design of most formulae used in setting child support amounts.

With so many people involved, there has been a predictable variation in reaction to the change. The early 1990s saw the rise of the fathers rights movement, class-action lawsuits, a surge in the number of appeals filed against child support orders, and new national conferences on fathers issues. State and federal politicians were lobbied constantly to fix or abandon the new laws. Members of the Washington State Legislature received thousands of pairs of baby shoes from fathers trying to make a point.

There were also reports of increases in suicide and violence. The early 1990s saw news reports of the first of the early morning raids on communities to round-up hundreds of dads to cart them off to jail. It saw shootings in courtrooms, lawyers and judges taken bloody to ambulances, and fathers barricaded in their homes surrounded by police.

In Dallas, a lawyer representing himself in a divorce case pulled a semi-automatic weapon from his briefcase and opened fire. While one father was barricaded in his home threatening suicide if police came too close, he was telephoned by a reporter who wanted to turn the conversation over to a police negotiator. Feminist groups protested, saying the government must not negotiate with terrorists. News coverage on such incidents ended. Billions of dollars were spent increasing security in courthouses.

Despite the best efforts of ordinary citizens, the system got worse. Fathers rights advocates were largely cut off from making their appeals through traditional media that continued an enormous propaganda effort against the so-called "deadbeat dads." By the mid-1990s politicians were confident that the public couldn't get enough. Child support was on the political agenda in every election year. Politicians in both parties continually promised to make life tougher for fathers and passed law after law to do so.

By the late 1990s life had become so desperate for a few divorced men (in more than one country) suffering psychologically from the loss of their children and constant harassment that they took guns into day-care centers and held children hostage. Do you now understand how it feels, they asked before being gunned down by police snipers.

Due to the enormous weight of one-sided reporting on the child support issue, many people are still quite unfamiliar with the problem. It is easy to find people who believe that errors can be corrected and orders adjusted to circumstances by a quick visit with a family court judge or through some simple administrative process. They have been brainwashed into believing that men generally avoid what are presumed to be fair and reasonable obligations to their children. It is difficult for them to understand that millions of ordinary citizens are fighting for their survival in the midst of a constitutional crisis.

The Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the states define a system of checks and balances. Unreasonable orders are to be corrected on appeal. Unconstitutional laws are to be overturned by the judiciary. These are necessary safeguards against harmful, intrusive, and corrupt government behavior. But during the past twelve years the system has not functioned as designed. Everyone in government connected with child support, including judges, receive financial rewards for maintaining the centrally planned system and courts and prosecutors have cooperated to an amazing degree. This has created a situation in which no legal remedy for arbitrary and oppressive orders and overly zealous enforcement measures exists.

Some orders are so high as to be life threatening. They do not leave the person who is ordered to pay with sufficient income to support himself. Lives have been lost. But to create the order is not enough. Once bound, the system constantly threatens and harasses fathers who are unable to meet their arbitrarily assigned "obligations." Just give the situation more than two seconds thought. If you do not think that the system caused Catalino Morales to fire a gun and run for his life you do not pass elementary applied probability. You do not understand humans.

Unless the corruption in the system is dealt with and those abusing power and influence arrested and jailed, there will be more gunfights and more men brought down in the war against fathers. Some will no longer have the compassion for life that Catalino Morales displayed. Their instinct to fight when threatened will win out over flight. They will aim at police before firing and not relinquish their weapons to hostages. We will all be guilty if we do not hold those responsible for the child support system as we know it today guilty of conspiracy.

Copyright © 2002 Roger F. Gay


Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst and director of Project for the Improvement of Child Support Litigation Technology. He has also been an intensive political observer for many years culminating in a well-developed sense of honest cynicism. Other articles by Roger F. Gay can be found at Fathering Magazine and Men's News Daily.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childsupport; constitution; fathers; policestate
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
,,, do you think the media would be in business if they stuck to the mundane? Not likely. Mr Gay has learned to showcase the extreme in order to provoke a reaction. Not only a reaction, but, within this thread a valuable cross section of opinion.

I can't condone the action of Mr Morales at all. Be very clear on this though... I can understand it. That's understand, not necessarily sympathise. If Roger Gay has managed to raise your awareness of this problem, he has achieved what he has set out to do.

261 posted on 08/22/2002 7:02:43 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"Not at all, but complaining isn't getting anything done! Get a move on, get some decent advice, and go see your kids. Send something for their support, and if the ex puts any obstacles in your path to seeing your kids, enlist an officer of the peace to stand on her doorstep. I guess I just can't get it, and I apologize if I offend you."

Thanks for the braindead advice. My kids are grown, and have been on their own for several years. I won custody after a ten year battle. Take a cop to enforce visitation? You're a funny guy. Didn't even read my posts before popping off, did you. I tried it. Cops say "she won't answer the door, sorry, we tried, have a nice day, g'bye."

I'm not here for me. I won. I'm here for the other men who are taking it up the ass by the feminist male-destruction system that so many fools defend.

262 posted on 08/22/2002 7:06:40 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Home By Dark
"A criminal act is a criminal act is a criminal act. The why of it only explains the failure of character; it does not excuse that failure."

If you refuse to address the travesty that pushes a percentage of people over the edge, then you have relinquished your right to bitch about them going over the edge. You can't on the one hand tolerate a cause, and on the other hand whine about the effect.

263 posted on 08/22/2002 7:08:39 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: shaggy eel
The problem however is that Mr. Gay has not helped at all with my awareness. I am in fact quite heavily involved in support issues. I'm just not the extremist Mr. Gay is. The only effect Mr. Gay's articles have upon me is to leave me thankful that ppl like him do not gain custody of their children.

I can neither condone NOR understand Mr. Morales actions. Are you saying that had I simply shot my ex rather than changed my phone number repeatedly, that if I'd stabbed him at night as his slept because he threatened to stab me to death if I slept, that if I had perhaps run him down with my car because he stole that same car and left me with the payments...that you would have understood? I wonder if Mr. Gay would even have condoned it. I would not have understood it, simply because that is not me. I cannot be the type of person I am not. My morals, my lifestyle, my "self", will not allow me to act in such manners.
264 posted on 08/22/2002 7:10:18 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: Don Joe
I'm not here for me. I won. I'm here for the other men who are taking it up the ass by the feminist male-destruction system that so many fools defend.

BTTT

,,, cops where I am stay right out of it. They say "see your lawyer". If you're a man, there's no way of getting your Court order for access enforced at all.

265 posted on 08/22/2002 7:10:33 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"you think I'm a schmuck?"

Did I call you a schmuck? Where did I call you a schmuck?

I never called you a schmuck.

"You are one creepy bastard"

Now you, on the other hand...

Pot? Meet Kettle.

"I see why you are in the boat you're in.

Good God you dingbat, you don't even know what "boat I'm in."

"Keep writing your articles for the helpless parasites you represent and I swear when it finally hits you in the ass, you'll still have to have help to understand why you're alone with the other pathetic losers."

1. I have no idea what you are raving about. I "represent" no one, and I wrote no "articles" about anyone.

2. I have forwarded your threat to the FBI.

266 posted on 08/22/2002 7:11:28 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Drumbo
"She's my wife"

I offer my deepest condolensces.

As to the rest of your voluminous rant -- which I confess to having merely glossed over when I saw the virtual foam building up at the corners of your mouth?

Stuff it.

267 posted on 08/22/2002 7:13:18 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"Oh, yeah, dickhead"

Same to you, munchcake.

268 posted on 08/22/2002 7:14:05 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
As to the rest of your voluminous rant -- which I confess to having merely glossed over when I saw the virtual foam building up at the corners of your mouth? Stuff it.
IOW, he has no response. I can't say I didn't know the outcome. Your colors were showing long before you opened mouth and inserted foot. ;-)
269 posted on 08/22/2002 7:14:51 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"What else could I do you weenie? What an [censored] you are."

Do you eat with that mouth too, troll?

270 posted on 08/22/2002 7:15:13 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Goodnight Mr. Joe. I figure you'll be ranting a few more hours still and I must hit the sack. You seem to be down to one-liners. Never a good indication of comprehension skills.
271 posted on 08/22/2002 7:16:38 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
,,, as I'd stated in a post a bit further back, we all react to situations differently. Intelligent people take a hit and think about it. They work thru it, weighing up where they're at and they do the sums. After a while, they give themselves permission to move on. Mr Morales and his actions don't evidence anything along those lines. Given the choices he made within his resources and capabilites, I can understand it but not condone it. Very clinical, I know but take comfort in the fact that your morals, lifestyle and "self" are something a vast amount of people readily identify with. As has been said, this is an extreme case.
272 posted on 08/22/2002 7:19:05 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
"I started my own business and at the end of the last tax year gross profit was 47% of turnover. Airlines regarded as healthy may be doing 2 - 3%. Child support can't take any of that."

Kudos!

Hip Hip HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you have just really warmed the cockles of me 'art with that little tale 'o joy!

273 posted on 08/22/2002 7:20:41 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
,,, thanx Don. The message for guys is pick your friends and wives like you pick your fruit at the supermarket. If it ain't up to it, leave it where it is.
274 posted on 08/22/2002 7:23:45 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"Well Mr. DNA, rarely do men rape other men, rarely do women rape other women, rarely do women run over their dentist husbands with their cars repeatedly.... Are you suggesting none of these perpetrators should be punished for their behavior?"

Compared to noncustodial women, "rarely do men" walk away from their child support payment requiements.

Yet, women regularly get a pass, with the occasional "well, they should pay too, I guess" style halfhearted token statement, while men are demonized mercilessly.

275 posted on 08/22/2002 7:26:06 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Home By Dark
"Your question was tantamount to, 'Where in the Constitution does it say that husbands can't beat their wives?'"

"Uh, no. If you read the constitution, you will note that it has nothing to do with state/local courts, which deal with divorce/child support issues. To keep droning on about the constitution when it does not apply is irrational."

Spin, spin, spin.

The issues was the Constitutionality or lack thereof of what is done to fathers. I eviscerated the attempt to reframe that issue, and now you cry foul?

Put some ice on it.

276 posted on 08/22/2002 7:28:40 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Cultural Jihad
"I am also interested in guarding the reputation of this forum from both the cop-haters and the women-haters."

Well, count me out, bubba. A close relative is a cop -- as have been several good friends over the years, and my wife, as well as my daughters -- all of whom I'd lay my life on the line for -- are all women.

You really know how to strike out with a vengeance. Have you considered a career as a professional male feminist?

277 posted on 08/22/2002 7:30:40 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"The only idea I've entertained is that he brought everything that happens to him upon himself."

Interesting philosophy.

I guess that in the name of fairness, it's only right that we likewise apply it to women who have difficulty obtaining "child" support from their exes.

278 posted on 08/22/2002 7:31:54 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"Default maternal custody is not the law however."

So what? Neither were lynchings in the Old South.

What "the law" says hardly matters when what is done in practice makes a complete mockery of "the law".

The "default maternal custody is not the law" argument is no different from the "then let them eat cake" argument.

279 posted on 08/22/2002 7:35:57 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"How sick are you?"

Well, let's see. My spine is shot, my congestive heart failure will likely kill me before colon cancer gets me, unless the adenematous polyps have gone farther along than I'd like before I can get scoped again, and my failed cervical fusion is really giving me grief lately.

Your turn.

" I'm sorry, how would you know?"

You really are one snotty piece of work, you know? I'm not surprised the moderators deleted your post where you called me several vile names.

280 posted on 08/22/2002 7:39:37 PM PDT by Don Joe
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