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Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers
FatherMag.com ^ | August 22, 2002 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 08/22/2002 6:45:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay


Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers

August 22, 2002
By Roger F. Gay

America's Most Wanted put it like this:

Catalino Morales is wanted for the attempted homicide of five deputy sheriff’s in Allentown, Pennsylvania and for failure to pay back child support.

On Saturday, morning, December 9, 2000, eight deputies in Lehigh county Pennsylvania broke into Catalino Morales' home to serve an arrest warrant charging him with failure to make child support payments. According to the deputies, Morales barricaded himself in a second-floor bedroom and fired two shots through a closed door. He then shot out a back window, jumped onto a flat roof, and onto the ground where it is alleged that he shot at a deputy. The deputy returned fire but no one was injured. Morales escaped the immediate area.

Police say Morales then entered a house in the neighborhood and held a family of four hostage for several hours. The standoff ended when one of the residents managed to wrestle the gun out of Morales’ hands and Morales fled the scene. A massive hunt ensued, including search dogs, helicopters, and Allentown police; to no avail.

On the night of June 20, 2001 a SWAT team in Hartford, Connecticut surrounded Morales in a housing complex and shots were fired. No policepersons were injured in the encounters. Morales was hit by three of 25 police bullets, permanently damaging his hand and his leg and endangering the lives of the nearby residents.

He is a father. He is a man. He is allegedly behind in making "child support" payments.

It is unlikely that the child support system will be put on trial in defense of Catalino Morales, but it should be. Under heavy influence from a profit-driven collection industry the process of determining the amount of child support ordered and enforcement practices have changed dramatically within the past fifteen years. Political corruption is rampant and obvious not only to those who have studied the system closely but to many fathers who have been forced into subjugation by it.

Millions of men are treated arbitrarily and unfairly to a degree that compromises or destroys their chance to maintain themselves, let alone get on with a normal life. Many cannot do what the system requires them to do. Add to that years of harassment and threats from a long list of strangers, including half-witted pimple-faced high school drop-outs trying to collect to make a commission and female bureaucrats, possibly former welfare mothers, who revel in the opportunity to emasculate men. There is no escape, no reason. Every politician says so. Men and women with more power than moral character constantly remind them that this is what fatherhood is all about.

Then other strangers arrive with guns and invade their homes with the intent of taking them prisoner. They are experiencing the horror of a dictatorial police state.

Catalino Morales is one of many canaries in the child support coal mines. Year after year we watch the canaries die yet the workers are not allowed to leave. Those among us who have the opportunity to communicate are morally obligated to pass the word. This system must be abandoned as quickly as possible whether the masters wish it or not.

In the early 1990s, millions of fathers first experienced the suspension of constitutional law in domestic relations courts and the transition to enforcement of arbitrary en masse central political decisions. The new system seems designed to ruin men's lives. Decisions are arbitrarily based on statistical projections that have no basis in reality. State governments are encouraged to take as much from fathers as possible in order to increase the amount of federal funds they receive. "Public-private partnerships" formed with private collection agencies that benefit from higher child support awards and greater debt. Industry representatives control much of the policy making process, including the design of most formulae used in setting child support amounts.

With so many people involved, there has been a predictable variation in reaction to the change. The early 1990s saw the rise of the fathers rights movement, class-action lawsuits, a surge in the number of appeals filed against child support orders, and new national conferences on fathers issues. State and federal politicians were lobbied constantly to fix or abandon the new laws. Members of the Washington State Legislature received thousands of pairs of baby shoes from fathers trying to make a point.

There were also reports of increases in suicide and violence. The early 1990s saw news reports of the first of the early morning raids on communities to round-up hundreds of dads to cart them off to jail. It saw shootings in courtrooms, lawyers and judges taken bloody to ambulances, and fathers barricaded in their homes surrounded by police.

In Dallas, a lawyer representing himself in a divorce case pulled a semi-automatic weapon from his briefcase and opened fire. While one father was barricaded in his home threatening suicide if police came too close, he was telephoned by a reporter who wanted to turn the conversation over to a police negotiator. Feminist groups protested, saying the government must not negotiate with terrorists. News coverage on such incidents ended. Billions of dollars were spent increasing security in courthouses.

Despite the best efforts of ordinary citizens, the system got worse. Fathers rights advocates were largely cut off from making their appeals through traditional media that continued an enormous propaganda effort against the so-called "deadbeat dads." By the mid-1990s politicians were confident that the public couldn't get enough. Child support was on the political agenda in every election year. Politicians in both parties continually promised to make life tougher for fathers and passed law after law to do so.

By the late 1990s life had become so desperate for a few divorced men (in more than one country) suffering psychologically from the loss of their children and constant harassment that they took guns into day-care centers and held children hostage. Do you now understand how it feels, they asked before being gunned down by police snipers.

Due to the enormous weight of one-sided reporting on the child support issue, many people are still quite unfamiliar with the problem. It is easy to find people who believe that errors can be corrected and orders adjusted to circumstances by a quick visit with a family court judge or through some simple administrative process. They have been brainwashed into believing that men generally avoid what are presumed to be fair and reasonable obligations to their children. It is difficult for them to understand that millions of ordinary citizens are fighting for their survival in the midst of a constitutional crisis.

The Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the states define a system of checks and balances. Unreasonable orders are to be corrected on appeal. Unconstitutional laws are to be overturned by the judiciary. These are necessary safeguards against harmful, intrusive, and corrupt government behavior. But during the past twelve years the system has not functioned as designed. Everyone in government connected with child support, including judges, receive financial rewards for maintaining the centrally planned system and courts and prosecutors have cooperated to an amazing degree. This has created a situation in which no legal remedy for arbitrary and oppressive orders and overly zealous enforcement measures exists.

Some orders are so high as to be life threatening. They do not leave the person who is ordered to pay with sufficient income to support himself. Lives have been lost. But to create the order is not enough. Once bound, the system constantly threatens and harasses fathers who are unable to meet their arbitrarily assigned "obligations." Just give the situation more than two seconds thought. If you do not think that the system caused Catalino Morales to fire a gun and run for his life you do not pass elementary applied probability. You do not understand humans.

Unless the corruption in the system is dealt with and those abusing power and influence arrested and jailed, there will be more gunfights and more men brought down in the war against fathers. Some will no longer have the compassion for life that Catalino Morales displayed. Their instinct to fight when threatened will win out over flight. They will aim at police before firing and not relinquish their weapons to hostages. We will all be guilty if we do not hold those responsible for the child support system as we know it today guilty of conspiracy.

Copyright © 2002 Roger F. Gay


Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst and director of Project for the Improvement of Child Support Litigation Technology. He has also been an intensive political observer for many years culminating in a well-developed sense of honest cynicism. Other articles by Roger F. Gay can be found at Fathering Magazine and Men's News Daily.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childsupport; constitution; fathers; policestate
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To: Don Joe
"By the way, Mz. "almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo signed up 2002-08-22," did you formerly troll these environs under a different handle, or are you New Meat sent over from DU?

Please see my post 174. AH signed up tonight for her first ever post on FR because the constant troll from her forums came to FR (my forum) with his defense of a hostage taking nut job that shoots at cops.

She is not from DU, are you? She doesn't even know what Democratic Undergroud is. She's my wife; had you read the topic you would know that. I welcomed her as a conservative - and I support her veiws are child support.

Her Ex has never lived up to his obligations in the last 16 years that he's been ordered by the court to support his child, I doubt seriously that the recent "adjustment" will change his ways. He abandoned his wife and daughter when the child was a month old. For 17 years he has been on the run, marrying four other women and fathering at least two other children, all the while ignoring his first child and the court's order to pay $100 per month support.

He recently surfaced - owns a home and has a good job. He thought that once his daughter turned 18 he would be off the hook - he even tried to persuade her to file for emancipation at 17! He only owes close to $10,000 in back payments and the court was not amused with his Houdini act. He's been ordered to fulfill his obligations through his daughters 20th birthday due to his own flagrent disregard. The payments went up because the court decided he owes it. The money, if any, will go directly to his daughter, my stepdaughter to help pay for her education.

If you want to mimic Mr. Gay, and support a lawbreaker, rather than the prople who have a child's best interest at heart, I'm sure you are welcome to join him in trolling the Custodial Parents forums which Roger haunts. If you want to come on FreeRepublic and defend lawbreakers and deadbeats; pretend that requiring parents to bear the responsibility of their children is abuse . . . well, that's your right too, but don't expect to do it without sensable people challenging you - even if they just registered tonight. She knows more about deadbeat dads then you do, unless of course you would like to confess something?

241 posted on 08/22/2002 6:28:10 PM PDT by Drumbo
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To: RogerFGay
Since I'm becoming known on FR for being pro-fathers rights and debate child support/fathers issues quite a bit, I have to respond to this article.

I can not condone in anyway violent acts made by even the most desperate men. Though I have seen men stripped of their homes, their possessions, 60%+ of their earnings, their tax returns, their credit standing, their children and their freedom, using violence as a means to an end does nothing to further the cause of fathers rights. It does however give the fathers rights movement a black eye when such behavior takes place.

Aside from being pro-fathers, I am also pro-life. My pro-life position follows the same as my pro-fathers, I can not condone in anyway bombing of abortion clinics or the murder of abortion doctors. While I realize those incidents are actually rare compared to the number of clinics and doctors performing abortions, it does and has happend. In the end all it does is give ammunition to those who look for any reason to call pro-life people/groups nutcases and violent people. The same for fathers who use violence to protest the current unjust, unconstitutional and highly biased family court/child support system.

243 posted on 08/22/2002 6:29:15 PM PDT by Brytani
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
Abandonment constitutes a willful disavowal of the right to joint custody.

And rather than address every possible failing that joint custody situations could have, I would simply note that the current situation, essentially default maternal custody, has a laundry list of problems as well.

Given that, joint custody is better for the kids and more fair to the parents. Would many situations be flawed? Sure.

Like now.

244 posted on 08/22/2002 6:30:11 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
=>Unemployed females get all the breaks from the system and that's one of them.
Spoken as a true generalism. Since that statement can be proven false in certain instances, the whole statement becomes false.

Childless women who are unemployed are not eligible for many of the charities and government programs. I assume the same is true for single men who are childless, but I am not sure.
245 posted on 08/22/2002 6:30:14 PM PDT by Home By Dark
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To: Don Joe
How sick are you? I'm sorry, how would you know?
246 posted on 08/22/2002 6:30:29 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Brytani
I agree completely with all of that.
247 posted on 08/22/2002 6:31:43 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: Brytani
Aside from being pro-fathers, I am also pro-life. My pro-life position follows the same as my pro-fathers, I can not condone in anyway bombing of abortion clinics or the murder of abortion doctors. While I realize those incidents are actually rare compared to the number of clinics and doctors performing abortions, it does and has happend. In the end all it does is give ammunition to those who look for any reason to call pro-life people/groups nutcases and violent people. The same for fathers who use violence to protest the current unjust, unconstitutional and highly biased family court/child support system.
AMEN!
248 posted on 08/22/2002 6:33:45 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: DNA Rules
Default maternal custody is not the law however. I see nothing written anywhere that such is the case. Therefore, it would point to being an individual's problem of perception...namely one singular biased judge. By failing to address every possible occurence, we replace one laundry list with another, eh?
249 posted on 08/22/2002 6:35:27 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
Default maternal custody is not the law however. I see nothing written anywhere that such is the case.

Case law. Hardly one singular judge. The custody-to-the-mother bias is deeply entrenched.

I'm not sure that there was ever a law which said "Blacks are slaves in the South", but for centuries, it was the practice.

And the govt. had to step in to reverse that, in writing.

250 posted on 08/22/2002 6:39:06 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
Don't have a single solitary judge making the ruling, but more like a jury or panel to hear divorce cases. You stand a better chance of a fair ruling when you have an equally matched panel of jurors than one possibly biased individual.

You would still need formal, written guidelines as to who would get what parenting time and why. What would such guidelines say if you wrote them?

I have no faith in anyone deciding what should be what based purely upon their own biases. There must be set, public standards and accountability for being held thereto.

251 posted on 08/22/2002 6:43:35 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: Cultural Jihad
I am interested in exposing the heartless ideologue's wacky ideology. I am also interested in guarding the reputation of this forum from both the cop-haters and the women-haters.

,,, quite a torch to carry. Let opinions flow and common sense will shine thru, I'm certain. In time, may I call you to other threads where the reputation of this forum needs defending? I don't hate cops and I don't hate women. I can see Mr Gay has highlighted a very real problem. Questions have to be asked. Not all people react the same way to situations, of course. This is an extreme case and people should look at the root cause carefully. In suggesting this, I'm not giving you a "it's society's fault" line.

252 posted on 08/22/2002 6:45:39 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Home By Dark
What would you consider to be a fair system, in regards both to custody and financial issues?
253 posted on 08/22/2002 6:47:23 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: DNA Rules
There are really no guidelines on custody division now. Guidelines deal with "support" after custody is decided upon. I have yet to find any state which lays out guidelines on who custody should be awarded to. Some of them list things that should be considered in determining custody. But the custody determination is still left up to the judge.

That is where the system falls short as far as I can tell...it's that too much discretion is left solely to one individual. Even for a father who does get hit with an unfairly high order, it often falls back to a judge who knows the guy was laid off and thinks he should be able to immediately jump back into a new job earning the exact same rate of pay. That is an individual decision...that is not guideline.
254 posted on 08/22/2002 6:47:31 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
I agree that custody guidelines, state to state, are murky, and leave to much to whatever a given judge wants. So, were there binding custody/support guidelines, written by you, what would they say?
255 posted on 08/22/2002 6:49:47 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: RogerFGay
The absolute worst situation I have heard about is where a man is shown through DNA to NOT be the father but because a court order was handed down the man has to keep paying child support - for kids that are not his.

They are considering changing this situation. Only considering it mind you, and on a very limited basis.

256 posted on 08/22/2002 6:49:55 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: shaggy eel
This is an extreme case and people should look at the root cause carefully.
Which poses a serious problem. If you will review many of Mr. Gay's articles, you will see that he generally takes an extreme case and draws attention to just such a case, thereby insuring that ppl will look at the root cause. Were he to write about more reasonable cases, he would not pit himself against the masses. He looks for the discord.
257 posted on 08/22/2002 6:50:24 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: DNA Rules
=>What would you consider to be a fair system, in regards both to custody and financial issues?

I asked the question first.

I have never given any thought to an actual system, since I took great care to never have children even while I was married. I've observed the inequities on both sides, however.
258 posted on 08/22/2002 6:51:05 PM PDT by Home By Dark
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To: Home By Dark
Mandated joint residential custody, which precludes the need for child support, save medical and other large expenses, to be apportioned between parents proportionately according to their income.
259 posted on 08/22/2002 6:54:33 PM PDT by DNA Rules
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To: DNA Rules
There wouldn't be many at all. If I were to write guidelines, they'd be fairly bare. They would consist of a proposed chart to follow in setting CS (much like now). They would possibly have a clause to have the participants counseled prior to granting a divorce, whenever applicable. Meaning if their is obvious abuse or abandonment, such that counseling would be incomprehensible, that it would not be ordered. Either party would have a right to request the now defunct fault-based divorce and show their evidence and that custody/asset split would be based upon such fault when shown.

It would take a lot of effort to write a comprehensive guideline, but what I would write would be fairly sparse with the judgement hinging on a fairly mixed panel (some divorced, some married, some men, some women, some CP, some NCP) making the fairest decision possible.

I would never want a guideline that says something must always be followed, because we can never foresee future possibilities. And I would never leave it open to the interpretation of one individual because there exists a large possibility that they are prejudiced...almost everyone has that capacity.

260 posted on 08/22/2002 6:56:32 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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