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Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers
FatherMag.com ^ | August 22, 2002 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 08/22/2002 6:45:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay


Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers

August 22, 2002
By Roger F. Gay

America's Most Wanted put it like this:

Catalino Morales is wanted for the attempted homicide of five deputy sheriff’s in Allentown, Pennsylvania and for failure to pay back child support.

On Saturday, morning, December 9, 2000, eight deputies in Lehigh county Pennsylvania broke into Catalino Morales' home to serve an arrest warrant charging him with failure to make child support payments. According to the deputies, Morales barricaded himself in a second-floor bedroom and fired two shots through a closed door. He then shot out a back window, jumped onto a flat roof, and onto the ground where it is alleged that he shot at a deputy. The deputy returned fire but no one was injured. Morales escaped the immediate area.

Police say Morales then entered a house in the neighborhood and held a family of four hostage for several hours. The standoff ended when one of the residents managed to wrestle the gun out of Morales’ hands and Morales fled the scene. A massive hunt ensued, including search dogs, helicopters, and Allentown police; to no avail.

On the night of June 20, 2001 a SWAT team in Hartford, Connecticut surrounded Morales in a housing complex and shots were fired. No policepersons were injured in the encounters. Morales was hit by three of 25 police bullets, permanently damaging his hand and his leg and endangering the lives of the nearby residents.

He is a father. He is a man. He is allegedly behind in making "child support" payments.

It is unlikely that the child support system will be put on trial in defense of Catalino Morales, but it should be. Under heavy influence from a profit-driven collection industry the process of determining the amount of child support ordered and enforcement practices have changed dramatically within the past fifteen years. Political corruption is rampant and obvious not only to those who have studied the system closely but to many fathers who have been forced into subjugation by it.

Millions of men are treated arbitrarily and unfairly to a degree that compromises or destroys their chance to maintain themselves, let alone get on with a normal life. Many cannot do what the system requires them to do. Add to that years of harassment and threats from a long list of strangers, including half-witted pimple-faced high school drop-outs trying to collect to make a commission and female bureaucrats, possibly former welfare mothers, who revel in the opportunity to emasculate men. There is no escape, no reason. Every politician says so. Men and women with more power than moral character constantly remind them that this is what fatherhood is all about.

Then other strangers arrive with guns and invade their homes with the intent of taking them prisoner. They are experiencing the horror of a dictatorial police state.

Catalino Morales is one of many canaries in the child support coal mines. Year after year we watch the canaries die yet the workers are not allowed to leave. Those among us who have the opportunity to communicate are morally obligated to pass the word. This system must be abandoned as quickly as possible whether the masters wish it or not.

In the early 1990s, millions of fathers first experienced the suspension of constitutional law in domestic relations courts and the transition to enforcement of arbitrary en masse central political decisions. The new system seems designed to ruin men's lives. Decisions are arbitrarily based on statistical projections that have no basis in reality. State governments are encouraged to take as much from fathers as possible in order to increase the amount of federal funds they receive. "Public-private partnerships" formed with private collection agencies that benefit from higher child support awards and greater debt. Industry representatives control much of the policy making process, including the design of most formulae used in setting child support amounts.

With so many people involved, there has been a predictable variation in reaction to the change. The early 1990s saw the rise of the fathers rights movement, class-action lawsuits, a surge in the number of appeals filed against child support orders, and new national conferences on fathers issues. State and federal politicians were lobbied constantly to fix or abandon the new laws. Members of the Washington State Legislature received thousands of pairs of baby shoes from fathers trying to make a point.

There were also reports of increases in suicide and violence. The early 1990s saw news reports of the first of the early morning raids on communities to round-up hundreds of dads to cart them off to jail. It saw shootings in courtrooms, lawyers and judges taken bloody to ambulances, and fathers barricaded in their homes surrounded by police.

In Dallas, a lawyer representing himself in a divorce case pulled a semi-automatic weapon from his briefcase and opened fire. While one father was barricaded in his home threatening suicide if police came too close, he was telephoned by a reporter who wanted to turn the conversation over to a police negotiator. Feminist groups protested, saying the government must not negotiate with terrorists. News coverage on such incidents ended. Billions of dollars were spent increasing security in courthouses.

Despite the best efforts of ordinary citizens, the system got worse. Fathers rights advocates were largely cut off from making their appeals through traditional media that continued an enormous propaganda effort against the so-called "deadbeat dads." By the mid-1990s politicians were confident that the public couldn't get enough. Child support was on the political agenda in every election year. Politicians in both parties continually promised to make life tougher for fathers and passed law after law to do so.

By the late 1990s life had become so desperate for a few divorced men (in more than one country) suffering psychologically from the loss of their children and constant harassment that they took guns into day-care centers and held children hostage. Do you now understand how it feels, they asked before being gunned down by police snipers.

Due to the enormous weight of one-sided reporting on the child support issue, many people are still quite unfamiliar with the problem. It is easy to find people who believe that errors can be corrected and orders adjusted to circumstances by a quick visit with a family court judge or through some simple administrative process. They have been brainwashed into believing that men generally avoid what are presumed to be fair and reasonable obligations to their children. It is difficult for them to understand that millions of ordinary citizens are fighting for their survival in the midst of a constitutional crisis.

The Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the states define a system of checks and balances. Unreasonable orders are to be corrected on appeal. Unconstitutional laws are to be overturned by the judiciary. These are necessary safeguards against harmful, intrusive, and corrupt government behavior. But during the past twelve years the system has not functioned as designed. Everyone in government connected with child support, including judges, receive financial rewards for maintaining the centrally planned system and courts and prosecutors have cooperated to an amazing degree. This has created a situation in which no legal remedy for arbitrary and oppressive orders and overly zealous enforcement measures exists.

Some orders are so high as to be life threatening. They do not leave the person who is ordered to pay with sufficient income to support himself. Lives have been lost. But to create the order is not enough. Once bound, the system constantly threatens and harasses fathers who are unable to meet their arbitrarily assigned "obligations." Just give the situation more than two seconds thought. If you do not think that the system caused Catalino Morales to fire a gun and run for his life you do not pass elementary applied probability. You do not understand humans.

Unless the corruption in the system is dealt with and those abusing power and influence arrested and jailed, there will be more gunfights and more men brought down in the war against fathers. Some will no longer have the compassion for life that Catalino Morales displayed. Their instinct to fight when threatened will win out over flight. They will aim at police before firing and not relinquish their weapons to hostages. We will all be guilty if we do not hold those responsible for the child support system as we know it today guilty of conspiracy.

Copyright © 2002 Roger F. Gay


Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst and director of Project for the Improvement of Child Support Litigation Technology. He has also been an intensive political observer for many years culminating in a well-developed sense of honest cynicism. Other articles by Roger F. Gay can be found at Fathering Magazine and Men's News Daily.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childsupport; constitution; fathers; policestate
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Speaking of freaked out creepy liars, I'm listening to a program in NPR available on the internet with guests Irwin Garfinkel and Sherri Heller. Irwin Garfinkel is the guy who is more responsible for the current child support system than anyone else. He imported the Wisconsin Model from Soviet Russia. According to him, Wisconsin is like heaven for fathers. The percent of income formula and all the trimmings is the fairest thing humans ever invented. Sherri Heller from OCSE says it's great that the federal government is arresting and prosecuting wealthy fathers as a display of government power. The purpose is to intimidate everyone, and that's a good thing -- for the children.
161 posted on 08/22/2002 4:37:10 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Kevin Curry
"He could start a business and build it, become wealthy through hard work."

Can I have some of what you're smoking? I'd like to plant it on one of the more obnoxious child support agents. :)

You're surely living in a happytime dreamworld if you think an ex-father could get away with "an obvious attempt to evade his responsibility" by starting a business.

Exactly how is he supposed to "start a business", when every "free" dollar -- which would be necessary for startup costs, inventory, expenses, and so forth -- the type things that every business has to wrestle with when starting up -- is claimed by the Child Support gestappo as unpaid tribute to his ex?

It is obvious that you've never had any direct contact with "the system", and are getting your "facts" from the feminist propaganda mills.

162 posted on 08/22/2002 4:39:40 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: amused
So this is predictable and therefore partially justified?

So, did you read the whole article, or are you going to try to understand it from one sentence and asking me a lot of irritating questions?
163 posted on 08/22/2002 4:40:25 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Motherbear
What you describe is the exact opposite of what we have now, yet, you defend what we have now, and attack anyone who doesn't defend it.

You need to think things through before weighing in with your basket of solutions.

164 posted on 08/22/2002 4:43:33 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Allow me to sum up the collective argument of all the left wing feminist "conservative" "men" who pollute these threads:

Thanks for the advance generalization.

Actually I would like to hear your story of woe since the amount of venom you put out about this issue should make it a doozy.

You have tried to justify the actions of a guy who held hostages by his treatment at the hands of child support collectors. Mr. K would be a much better case to promote though I doubt he wants the job. I am sure there are many like him otherwise why have a fathers movement in the first place.

It's the extolling of the extreme via armed conflict that seems to be a theme in these CPS battles. Not many want to defend CPS but fewer want to defend child abusers and armed hostage takers. I hate to say it but some of you guys sound like suicide by cop candidates. And that is frightening.

165 posted on 08/22/2002 4:44:51 PM PDT by amused
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"Have a copy of the divorce decree and child custody papers handy, call the police, have them meet you at the ex's house and pick up your children for your visit. At the end of your visit, ask the police officer to be present when you return your child(ren) to their mother. That's what we do here in Missouri. It seems to work real well."

Cute.

Except that it doesn't work very well in Michigan.

Cop shows up. Cop knocks on door. Cop stands there waiting for a minute or so. Cop knocks on door again. Cop waits another minute. Cop knocks on door again. Cop waits another minute.

Cop turns to you, shrugs his shoulders, tells you, "Well, she won't open the door," then says goodbye, and leaves.

Enforcement, right.

I have it straight from the mouth of the former head of the Friend of the Court agency that there is intentionally zero enforcement for anything the woman does, "because we believe that women care about their children."

The entire superstructure of the divorce/"child" support industry is driven by hard core doctrinaire radical feminist agenda.

166 posted on 08/22/2002 4:50:19 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay
So, did you read the whole article, or are you going to try to understand it from one sentence and asking me a lot of irritating questions?

I did read the article. It was your followups that got my attention.

I just think there are much better cases to be stated. My father could be an example. But a guy who decides to take on armed conflict because he owes child support and takes a family hostage is not exactly a great banner carrier. To then use rage at the injustice of the system as an implied justification of what was done was ridiculous. To say this is predictable with the system and its circumstances and slyly condone this father rage, it seems that armed conflict is what is the goal. It is extolled as the fathers working in the system are villified.

167 posted on 08/22/2002 4:51:52 PM PDT by amused
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"Would you really feel, as an officer of a court of law, that placing a child with someone who lives in a car, or by the seat of his pants with regard to a job and home, is in that child's best interests? I couldn't."

Oh, beautiful! Hegelianism on crack!

Knock him down, step on him, piss on him, and then say "you really expect us to let The Children get anywhere near some bum on the ground who stinks of urine?"

168 posted on 08/22/2002 4:53:07 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: RogerFGay
Gotta go, but I will check this tomorrow. I am interested in discussing this as I am curious why Morales was chosen beyond the basic jack booted thugs deal.
169 posted on 08/22/2002 4:55:56 PM PDT by amused
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To: All
Mr. Gay has been writing such drivel (dare I say dribel? ;->) at custodial parents' and mothers' boards for many years. He's screaming copyright infringement elsewhere as I post this. His crossing over to Free Republic was just too funny as my hubby is a poster here, while I post most frequently regarding divorce related issues...our paths have crossed. Mr. Gay is one of the fanaticals who want to bully their way across the web with their own brand of justice. He's the perpetual victim.

I know that had I, as a custodial parent (who Mr. Gay would tell you is a money grubbing bitch) gone on a shooting rampage because the system and my ex were both IMHO unfair to me, Mr. Gay would undoubtedly say I got what I deserved. Well Mr. Gay, Morales got what he deserved. But you already knew that. I think you simply like seeing your name behind articles that are best left in the waste basket.
170 posted on 08/22/2002 4:56:38 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: Constitutions Grandchild; RogerFGay
"I let him move in to the home I bought on my own after the divorce 9 months ago so he could keep body and soul together AND MAKE HIS SUPPORT PAYMENTS to our son. Our son is what's important here. I got another mouth to feed in him and another in his adorable 65-lb. Irish Setter."

Congratulations!

You're today's winner of the Josef Stalin Resource Management Award!

Please, do remember to properly dispose of the livestock when it is no longer able to deliver an appropriate return on investment.

171 posted on 08/22/2002 4:57:42 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"My divorce was not endless days in court, it was one. I worked full time and managed to read over the documents and decide when something was fair, or not. Guys can't just go bury their heads in the sand. Why were you paying for her attorney's fees? That's ridiculous!"

Ah, the Marie Antoinette gambit!

"What are those men complaining about? If they're hungry, let them eat cake! Divorce is not 'difficult' or 'expensive' -- just ask any divorced woman and she'll tell you!"

173 posted on 08/22/2002 5:01:08 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"He's screaming copyright infringement elsewhere as I post this. His crossing over to Free Republic was just too funny as my hubby is a poster here . . ."

ROTFL! I would think that with as many boards as Roger has already posted this to (including FR) that this "article" is public Domain by now.

Welcome to FR MrsDrumbo.

174 posted on 08/22/2002 5:02:44 PM PDT by Drumbo
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To: Raymond Hendrix
Thanks for posting this. My brother pays $300 per month for the rest of his life for kids that are over 20. This is a lifetime interest payment made to the state of California. Not one penny goes to past due child support. He lives in his car in order to keep the payments up. I guess they would call him a dead beat dad.

Having to pay $300 per month forces him to live in a car? Sounds like your brother isn't trying very hard to pay up.

Just how long did your brother not pay support? A $300 monthly interest payment translates to $3,600 a year. At 10% (I checked--that's the CA interest rate on overdue support), that's $36,000 in arrears.

Finally, why didn't he pay?

175 posted on 08/22/2002 5:02:49 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Motherbear
"Why should only one parent be resonsible for your little night of fun and games?"

Don't be silly. The answer is, "Because he's a man, of course."

176 posted on 08/22/2002 5:03:16 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Poohbah
Gee, my ex's CS was just increased to $470/mo. and he's not living in his car....but he will be. LOLOL
177 posted on 08/22/2002 5:05:19 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: drjimmy
"What I am saying--basically--is that the writer who tries to gin up sympathy for men who take children hostage so that they 'now understand how it feels,' is no different from the liberals who want us to 'understand' that child molesters and terrorists do what they do because someone else has driven them to do it."

No, what you are saying -- basically -- is that if there is "something" about working conditions at the Post Office that results in a dramatic series of "going postal" incidents, the proper path to take is to continue shooting the miscreants, and ridicule anyone who suggests that it might be prudent to examine what that "something" at the Post Office might be.

178 posted on 08/22/2002 5:08:30 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Motherbear
"I might want to understand, but I certainly wouldn't have any SYMPATHY for a postal worker who holds four people hostage for four hours."

OK, fair enough.

How about one who instead of holding four people hostage for four hours, spends his last five bucks on a bottle of cheap whiskey which he takes "home" (his 25 year old Chevy Impala rustbucket) and drinks it before starting up his engine, flooring the accelerator, and aiming the car at the biggest tree he can find once the speedometer has reached 95 MPH?

Would you have any "SYMPATHY" for that postal worker? How about ten of them? Or fifty? Or a thousand?

How many would it take before you had "SYMPATHY" for people who were driven over the edge?

Or would you simply say good riddance to bad rubbish and leave the status quo alone?

179 posted on 08/22/2002 5:13:56 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Face it, some ppl can't handle stress. So they instead like to feel victimized and justified in using it as an excuse for being destructive and dangerous. And liberals would just love to spend more money on a study of this and a study of that to find out why. They'll never be satisfied with the fact that some minds are simply warped.
180 posted on 08/22/2002 5:14:01 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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