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MSNBC FUTURE IN DOUBT
DrudgeReport.com ^ | August 18, 2002

Posted on 08/18/2002 3:58:35 PM PDT by Paul Atreides

"The fall may be the make-or-break time for MSNBC," NEW YORK TIMES TV hotshot Bill Carter is preparing to write in Monday editions.

According to newsroom sources, Carter is set to warn how "future investment and promotion budgets for the channel" may be at risk during the coming months, as the all-news network continues to slump in the ratings, lead by the nearly still-born DONAHUE.

The pressure is coming from the very top of the MSNBCNBCGE tree.

Earlier this year, at a meeting of NBC's top management, Jeffrey Immelt, the chairman of GENERAL ELECTRIC, specifically cited MSNBC as the area of NBC that most needed attention. "He gave the order," a senior NBC executive has told Carter said, "and the order was, 'Fix it."'

As for the ailing DONAHUE, MSNBC prez Erik Sorenson tells Carter: "We're in the silly season. The news is so slow; it's been the summer of kidnappings. That plays more toward [CNN's] Connie [Chung]. Her show is cotton candy. It's all tabloid, all the time."

Sorenson said that come fall DONAHUE will start to take advantage of more hard news developments. "We'll have an election to cover and a war in Iraq," Sorenson said.

Beyond that, look for Donahue to book more celebrities. "He's going to have Oprah on and Harrison Ford and George Clooney," Sorenson said. "I don't honestly expect to have an answer on this until November."

Developing...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boringliberalfluff; fncuberalles; msdnc; msnbc; notenoughblondes; patheticlosers; secaucussyndrome
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To: Paul Atreides
Can't anybody spell SWILL DONASPEW right 'round here? ;-)
121 posted on 08/18/2002 6:36:56 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Paul Atreides
Fine - as long as Ashleigh Banfield does not end up on Fox.
122 posted on 08/18/2002 6:41:01 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
You mean you wouldn't want to sit there, looking at those glasses?
123 posted on 08/18/2002 6:48:02 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: veronica

124 posted on 08/18/2002 6:48:53 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: bert
Well well.

The funds of GE and Winders
With all their liberal benders,
Was not enough to stop,
A cable network Flop!     BURMA SHAVE?   :)

FGS

125 posted on 08/18/2002 6:54:37 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: GRRRRR
The truth? That's like kryptonite to the Left.

And as for MSNBC trying to pit Phil Donahue against Fox powerhouse Bill O'Reilly, that was a suicide mission from Day One.

I bid thee, GOOD RIDDANCE!
126 posted on 08/18/2002 7:12:20 PM PDT by T Lady
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To: Paul Atreides; Fred Mertz; Boston
...Friend of HILLARY ..NBC News takes another dive as TOM BROKAW has yet to apologize to the past, present and future members of the U.S. 7th Cavalry for his TV Lie about a "Massacre" of Civilians at the Bridge of NO GUN RI in the opening weeks of the Korean War ..which has been proven to have...

...NEVER HAPPENED.

See: 'NO GUN RI: A Military History of the Korean War Incident'.. by former 7th Cav Officer Major ROBERT L. BATEMAN.
127 posted on 08/18/2002 7:14:24 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Does this mean that there is at least this one bastion of the left in support of war on Iraq? They need this war to keep their network going, but they're all against it.

your point is well taken and interesting, but i have a slightly different view. msnbc does NOT KNOW how to cover a war. they want the threat of war to be around because they can play a con game as good as the major networks. so they say they want a war, but what they really want is to badmouth the administration into delaying the start of the war, or better yet, not having a war. as soon as the war begins, msnbc is toast, because folks will watch fox or (gasp) cnn.

128 posted on 08/18/2002 7:18:05 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: Paul Atreides; ladyinred
Why does news have to have a slant?
Because commercial journalism is entertainment, and because mass-market entertainment is inherently anticonservative.
Just report it, and be done with it. So far, FNC has done that
IMHO the non-liberally biased part of Fox News is mostly commentary. News, as such, is negative and superficial--thus anticonservative.

It is a snare and a delusion to think that journalism is not politics; it always has been. Hamilton and Jefferson duked it out in sponsored newspapers, and nobody blinked an eye. Well, they wouldn't--the First Amendment says in so many words that they were within their rights . . .

Journalists claim to be objective, but they never prove it; they couldn't even if it were true because "lack of bias" is an unprovable negative. The journalistic organs use their propaganda power to insinuate that it's unfair to expect to prove the negative. But if you're tempted to cut them some slack on that account, Ann Coulter isn't the first to prove the positive (but she does a really fine job of it, don't you think?).


129 posted on 08/18/2002 7:20:59 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Paul Atreides
SO we have the war in Irag being used as a means to increase the bottom line...WHERE'S FAIR'S JEFF COHEN WITH HIS OUTRAGE!!!!!!

LOL, what a joke. "We got the war in Iraq, girls being abducted, floods, we can increase our profitability. Doesn't Alterman also write for them, he should be squealing about that comment.

I hope Fox Newswatch gets a hold of that.

130 posted on 08/18/2002 7:24:18 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: Paul Atreides
Donahue? The salavation of PMSNBCS?????

I'm sorry, I have to go now. I can't type any more I'm laughing so hard too. Thanks Paul, you've made my night.
131 posted on 08/18/2002 7:26:00 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
I used to
watch daily before the politically correct lines were instituted but now we get mostly blacks and old ladies on
the Dem lines spouting the same old same old.

Ditto. Every time I've tried to get in a call to C-SPAN, the lines have always been busy; I figured I'd give them a viewpoint from the Black CONSERVATIVE perspective.
132 posted on 08/18/2002 7:28:21 PM PDT by T Lady
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To: Paul Atreides
Actually I think Ashleigh is not too bad. I have only watched her show a couple of times but she mostly just reports. She doesn't get into the liberal bias that I can tell. Donahue is the absolute worse. In fact he takes the crown as the king of liberal bias if you ask me.

Brad
133 posted on 08/18/2002 7:32:35 PM PDT by bradactor
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To: Paul Atreides
lead by the nearly still-born DONAHUE.

Abortion wasn't legal back when dino-phil was conceived. I wonder if his mama would have exercised her "right to choose".

134 posted on 08/18/2002 7:40:34 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
I don't disagree with your comments at all, however, I don't want news to be entertainment, I want it to be the facts with no bias. The newsreaders are capable of just doing the who, what, when, where, and why if they only would. Instead they are the propaganda arm of the democrat party and that makes them evil IMHO.

I took Journalism for 3 years, and unless you are doing an op-ed, you should just report the facts in an objective way. Problem is, what they call news now, is really just their agenda items with their particular spin to shape public opinion.
135 posted on 08/18/2002 7:40:48 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
If they made it the LAW & ORDER network and only showed reruns of the different L&O shows, the ratings would probably be higher.

Throw in a few Columbo reruns, and I'm there!

136 posted on 08/18/2002 7:44:46 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: T Lady; SouthCarolinaKit
the Dem lines spouting the same old same old.
A long time ago someone wrote about the "MEGO effect". That stands for
Mine
Eyes
Glaze
Over.
And that's just what happens when I hear 66% "same old same old" from Democrats and "moderates."

137 posted on 08/18/2002 7:50:15 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: ladyinred
I don't disagree with your comments at all, however, I don't want news to be entertainment, I want it to be the facts with no bias.
I tried to analyze journalism objectively, and this thread is what I came up with.

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate.

It's the best I could do, and I think the replies (give or take an unfortunate flame war) are illuminating. See in particular, reply #50 on that thread.


138 posted on 08/18/2002 7:56:57 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: ladyinred
Instead they are the propaganda arm of the democrat party and that makes them evil IMHO.

Might that be viewed from a different perspective:

The Dim party is the enforcement arm of the Ministry of Information?????? Not a stretch. You almost said as much yourself:

Problem is, what they call news now, is really just their agenda items with their particular spin to shape public opinion.

Thoughts?

FGS

139 posted on 08/18/2002 8:30:54 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: Paul Atreides
" lead by the nearly still-born DONAHUE. "

BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

140 posted on 08/18/2002 8:46:49 PM PDT by brat
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