The disunited states

Townhall.com ^ | August 15, 2002 | Cal Thomas

[FreedomFriend]

Furthermore, aren't you playing "eugenics" with your desire of third world immigration? It's all the way that you look at it.

[pittsburgh gop guy]

The strongest culture survives. Sounds like you are really afraid of immigrants, must be personal. Do you know any or have interaction with any? They are not all bad people you know - most of them work far harder than most native-born Americans. Do you let your kids play with immigrant kids? Are any in your church?

There is no bottom to the melting pot - and freedom is not an item that is scarce in America. I would say the more that enjoy it, the more of it there is.

[FreedomFriend]

This, coming from a guy in Pittsburgh? Come on. Pittsburgh is a city that has seen very little third world immigration. Until you've seen the barrios going up, you really don't understand it.

[FreedomFriend]

As for your direct questions. In regard to my church, I know that we have a couple of relatively recently emigrated African families (like within the past five years). Other than that, everyone is a native-born citizen.

As far as my children go, I can't answer that, for I don't have any at this stage in my life. However, when I do have children, they can play with anyone they choose. I do not discriminate, and I wouldn't teach my kids to, either. What I would most worry about is if some liberal is trying to brainwash them, or if people are trying to tell them that homosexuality is okay and that we evolved from apes.

[Coeur de Lion]

Back in the 60s people who were illegal went out of their way to make sure that they weren't identified as being in this country illegally. That doesn't happen anymore. It used to be if you got picked up by the police and it was suspected that you didn't belong here you were turned over to the INS and deported. That doesn't happen anymore. All of these policies had an effect on assimilation. You learned English because you wanted to pass as an American national. Now that isn't the case. I read articles all the time in the papers items referencing individuals by name who everyone knows are not in this country legally. And appears the individuals care about their identity being identified. This again wasn't ever the case. You drive down certain roads in California and there's day laborers all over the place. If the country was interested in controlling illegal immigration all they would have to do is ask some of them for green cards or identification and arrest them and turn them over to the INS for deportation. Everyone knows they're there. They have law enforcement in some jurisdiction requesting the permission to inforce immigration laws. Why is that, isn't the law that all citizens including police officers who witness or suspect someone guilty of violating the law should make an arrest. The powers that be could easily eliminate illegal immigration in this country. But they won't. And they only will, when the people rise up and demand it.

[Landru]

"...foreign-born Americans are not nearly the problem that native-born Lib'rals are..."

Eighteenth letter of the Greek alphabet my man, Sigma.
Lib'rals are merely a coalition of indiviual specialty *groups*; who're, often polarized amoung themselves.
Lib-rals then are a sum of their parts.

...& this is one very, large part, in the making.

[philman_36]

For instance, when people speak spanish or another language in your presence, say "don't you know it's rude to speak a foreign language in front of someone that doesn't understand it? It's like whispering secrets". Or something to that effect.
HA! I've got one better. A Mexican man in a convenience store spoke disparagingly to a young woman thinking that neither she or anyone else would know what he was saying.
I promptly, in Spanish, told him to shut his mouth, told him what he said and then told him that all Americans weren't monolingual.

The expression on his face was priceless! His jaw could've been used for a dustpan. A Spanish speaking Gringo! I'm sure he was taught that there was no such thing.

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[Twodees]

My father, one of the most racist pigs I've ever known

Anybody who will come onto a public forum and say something like this to total strangers about his own father is an imbecile. Why don't you take your dimwitted liberal ideas back to DU where you came from?

[ecomcon]

I would understand it perfectly, and expect no less, especially if I were looking at that person.

[Twodees]

this white guy fishing on it.. dressed in camouflage gear with a swastika tatooed on his biceps

If you had left this part out, someone might have believed your little work of fiction.

[Freemeorkillme]

Wooohoooo....LOL! It's a bit early to be tweakin' on the meds, dontchathink? btw-I just changed my screen name to "theyrecomminfurme", but feel the name will surely bring the black helicopters to my door.

(checking day of week...picking out color coded foil hat...typing from within a bubble suit....wisdom teeth lay in front of the monitor...am I forgetting anything???must remember to chew food thoroughly, breath, breath, breath)

[Twodees]

I didn't decide: my mother is from Germany and married my American father who was over there in the Air Force

Then you aren't a "first generation American", Einstein.

Guess what - unless you are American-Indian, your kin-folk probably came off some boat on our shores within the last couple of hundred years. I worry more about people who are anti-immigration that I do about hard-working immigrants.

Guess what - that isn't the subject under discussion here. If you can't keep up, keep quiet. Sheesh.

[Freemeorkillme]

Previous post in reference to post #31 directed towards "theskyisfalling".

[It'salmosttolate]

"The world is FLAT." ---Remember that one?

That stupid Columbus. Look at him on that boat with the Tin Foil Hat on.

[ecomcon]

Neocon money guy. Nice arguments for the liberals. Your arguments are pure liberal shell gamesmanship. We need the illegal immigrants for our own version of slave labor, right here in the United States. Illegals are good for the bottom line. A pragmatic, selfish, cynical, short term view, and without wisdom.

You disrespect the illegals because in your system, immigrants are automatically bottom rung strawberry pickers. You disrespect native born teenagers and others by demeaning hard labor. One of the reasons the teenagers of this countries' "white" people are so soft and lazy and morally lost is that they haven't had to do any type of this hard labor. It is "beneath them" to work hard for $5.75 an hour.

You disrespect the laws of this country by allowing that if an immigrant can simply break the law for 10 years or more, then they will have "earned" thier freedom from indentured servitude and recieve an "amnesty". Cynical and hypocritical.

It is the American culture and value system that is being displaced and forgotten. That is what this issue is about. Not how much a company's profit can be increased in order to make wall street happy, and thereby funding all the hippies' 401k plans. But I digress.

[Johnny Shear]

Anybody who will come onto a public forum and say something like this to total strangers about his own father is an imbecile. Why don't you take your dimwitted liberal ideas back to DU where you came from?

Twodees...You little pansy. You need to stop your whining and crying if you're going to accuse others of being liberal DUhhhhhh members.

Strangers or not....My own father or not.....He's been my most extensive experience with a racist. I use his examples quite often. Deal with it.

[Pagey]

"...Part of the reason for this forming of a less perfect union is that we are no longer sure of ourselves..."
And in other 'Clinton Socialist News',here's the
CHILLING QUOTE FOR THE DAY :
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism,
but under the name of Liberalism
they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist Program
until one day America will be a Socialist Nation
without ever knowing how it happened----
(Who on earth would publicly utter say such a thing?)
Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate
and one of the founders of the ACLU.

Please ponder what you, as an individual can do,(even in a small way) to stop this from happening.

[ecomcon]

I read Spanish pretty well. I speak Spanish poorly, but can make myself understood. While I think Spanish is somewhat inferior to English, as a language, Spanish isn't the point. Having a more unified, common American culture is. People from Mexico are socialist and nationalist in their thinking. There has to be major instruction in the American system of government. There has to be assimilation.

Rhetorically, I'd like you to tell me why I can speak better Spanish after 6 months of casual study than a co-worker of mine speaks English after having lived in this country for 15 years. The answer is they don't have to.

[FreedomFriend]

Do you deny the fact that Christ will return, or that a world government will take place? In fact, I tend to believe that what we're now seeing could very well be the creation of this government.

Your comments of "tin foil hat" portray nothing more than individual who is unwilling to look at the events of the day and see that, for the most part, our government has become and is becoming more illegitimate every day.

However, I hope you don't share the same type of view that FEMA portrays. That is, they call Christians and Constitutionalists terrorists.