Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

‘I WAS TOLD TO DOPE MY KID'
New York Post ^ | 8/07/02 | DOUGLAS MONTERO

Posted on 08/07/2002 12:53:51 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:08:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Should school systems be allowed to recommend that children be put on psychoactive drugs?

A 12-year-old upstate boy says the trusted educators in his local school forced him to take a cocktail of drugs that turned him into a psychotic who heard voices in his head.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adhd; paxil; ritalin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 181-200201-220221-240241-246 next last
To: Huck
I guess it's possible, and as long as it was in edible form, I guess a doctor could make a case for using marijuana for an under 18. I haven't done enough research on the medical uses of marijuana to make a strong case either way though.
201 posted on 08/07/2002 1:43:24 PM PDT by rb22982
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | View Replies]

To: Myrddin
Clostridia are anaerobic. From what tissues have you cultured and confirmed the presence of this organism? From how many patients have you isolated the organism? Does a normal, healthy individual develop clinical symptoms of ADHD or bipolar disorder when infected with this organism?

I am a researcher/systems analyst and do not treat patients. This information is based on direct observation of my case in combination with independent confirmation from other medical firms regarding diagnosis and treatment of autoimmune disorders identical and parallel to my case. These autoimmune disorders are not triggered by infection.... they are on going and present as the direct cause of the autoimmune disorder. There are numerous papers that will be put on video for presentation. You will only see a small tip of the iceberg since we have a stack of relative information six feet thick.

You have no idea what it took to get that six foot stack of documents since 96-97% of all research out there are grad students, NIH researchers, drug company researchers, whatever, all playing this silly game of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. In other words, these researchers are trying to find different ways of looking at disease from numerous possible interdiction methodologies without disclosing the source of the problem. This way you can keep that cat in the bag and everyone gets rich off a patient who could be cured in a few weeks of treatment. Instead they get to have a lifelong illness that eventually kills them while doctors shrug their shoulders because the researchers keep their stuff out of textbooks because of financial interests.

The patient eventually gets P.O.ed at the contemporary medical scene and jumps to homeopathic medicine where they get ripped off all over again. The road map of our research goes something like this:

Once upon a time there were a bunch of malcontent doctors spread all over the world but not exceeding maybe one or two percent of the entire medical population. They had not got the word that population control and greed was the theme of the day. They thought they were actually supposed to cure illnesses. And then the real abomination took place... they wrote about their findings and put them on the Internet all over the place in no particular logical arrangement.

So after many searches we have some real gems like the Harvard guys that studied 80 families for a disease known as APLA (Antiphospholipid Antibody Syndrome) which my wife has. They found a cluster of a good dozen autoimmune diseases running through all these families from grandma down to the teenage grandchild who just got knocked up and is having spontaneous miscarriages. If they could just find one thing about one disorder they would instantly know something about the others.

Eventually after four years experimenting I came to the conclusion that this pathogen I had was Clostridium difficile because no other pathogen is known to backup and attack you over the entire spectrum of 30 antibiotics with representation of every major family of antibiotic with one exception.... Can you guess it? Metronidazole/Flagyl ring a bell anywhere? So I went looking for confirmation. I found a patient that had it tunneling through their leg bone with a femur fracture that wouldn't heal. The only way it could be isolated from the other 11 cultured nasties was with a frozen bone culture. If it hadn't been a frozen culture the researchers never would have believed it. There was only one other known case in history before 1992. But now there were two.

Another clinic just opened their doors for treatment of fibromyalgia sighting two infections as the source of the problem, Clostridium difficile and Candidas. Clostridium difficile capable of inhabiting all major skeletal muscles... how special.

Another clinic was identifying infectious causes of Reiter's Syndrome and they found five associated pathogens, all foodborne pathogens but one, Chlamydia. But that didn't surprise me because I already new that this was 20% of all the college kids that came down arthritis. What was the deal with four foodborne pathogens? Could these be doing damage to the intestinal track to allow a secondary infection to infiltrate? Well several months after I looked at their paper they put out an update with one pathogen added.... One that hangs out in the intestinal track.... Clostridium difficile. So here we have it causing tendonitis in the legs.

Then there are the AIDS patients that get meningitis and brain abscesses from Clostridium difficile. Ever wonder where AIDS dementia comes from? You know when they look for this stuff in the colon they look for white and yellow plaques. Alzheimer patients get plaques. Multiple Sclerosis patients get plaques. I got plaques all over my fingernails till I killed it with antibiotics. After months of them being gone the regime reversed and the pathogen attacked me and when it spread up the arms... all the plaques came back. And when I pushed it back down again... they went away. The neuropathy was horrible as was the fibromyalgia and Reiters but those are three of the Harvard family cluster as Multiple Sclerosis is a fourth.

My wife's APLA was way out of hand. We brought it into complete total remission with....Metronidazole and Levaquin.

Another one on the Harvard cluster list is Diabetes Type II. Mom has this and diabetic neuropathy. We dropped her glucose levels in half and regressed her neuropathy 12 inches back down here legs in just fives days of treatment. She had to stop because this new regime was killing it so fast the body could not clear the toxin fast enough and it started to create meningitis symptoms. The same regime did the same to me.

When the pathogen spread like wild fire on me back in 1998 it crippled several joints which I had to drive it out of so they could repair themselves. So now I knew what caused my Ankylosing Spondylitis... another one on the Harvard list. It attacked me ten times faster on TMP/SMX than any other reversal on any other drug... a sulfur drug. Clostridium perfringens loves to eat sulfur. Clostridium perfringes causes symptoms of all the above autoimmune disorders. It causes sugar absorption problems too. All the autoimmune disorders on the Harvard list respond to complex sugar supplementation.

I don't have the papers in front of me to give you more definitive info. There is much more but this should be enough to get you interested. It really gets interesting when John Hopkins people see it attacking internal organs and causing acute pancreatitis. It is more interesting to know that all the other secondary infections I had, other people with the same disorders also get. It's a set treatment list. There is more... the iritis, Lupus, morning stiffness.... all secondary infections.

Bipolar disorder..... had it since the onset of puberty at age 12... when I got hit with meningitis.

I got this thing by inhaling a pretzel stick into my left lung at age 3 and a half. All Juvenile Ankylosing Spondylitis starts with pneumonia according to Saint Judes Hospital for children. You need fluid in the lung to create the anaerobic environment for it colonize.

202 posted on 08/07/2002 2:30:09 PM PDT by MedicalMess
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: nonliberal
Yes and doctors can predict that it exists by observing bowel behavior, abdominal cramping, inability to take care of ones self. It can manefest as bipolar. One day your up and no one can stop you and several days later you have guilt and depression with no explanation. I have it. And antibiotics of the right type and complex sugar replacement can help. It works for me. Maybe it will work for the one you love. No antibiotic experimentation till we get further confirmation. The suspected pathogen is very dangerous and can grow rapidly in the absence of other flora or in the presence of a sulfur drug or MSM. Also can manefest as explosive screaming rages. Heard the expression, "that kid has the devil in him"? FBI would rate you as person most likely to climb clock towers and snipe at people. That type of thing. Favorite question of wife,s friends is, "I feel for you girl, how do you live with that SOB". Chronic pain and inability to focus on what others want you to focus. Very easy to focus on what you want to do because constant distractions help you channel pain. Things that take effort seem to be almost insurmountable. Lousy at verbal skills but good in math. When children are in pain they don't realize that this is not normal. They think everyone else is like that too... so they don't talk much about it. Manefests as wining and inactivity, homebody versus outdoorsy...

See www.glycoscience.com check out Ambrotose by Mannatech.
203 posted on 08/07/2002 2:54:43 PM PDT by MedicalMess
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: rb22982
No wonder these United States are in trouble, our teachers dope the best minds into stupefication !

I won't tell you where I fall in those numbers you mentioned BUT I can verify that family and social pressure to NOT excel most certainly exist. God knows how many advances we haven't had because the young genius was "corrected" for "misbehavior" ; high I.Q. is especially despised by those who have genuine difficulty with logic and mathematics.

204 posted on 08/07/2002 3:10:40 PM PDT by hoosierham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]

To: rb22982
I think the various measures have varying S.D.s

AFAIK, the Mensa test has an S.D. of 16, which produces a cutoff for membership of about 135+?

This kid would be eligible for the MM interest group within Mensa, whose members are to Mensans as Mensans are to the general population, in the top 2%, IQ-wise.
205 posted on 08/07/2002 3:12:57 PM PDT by headsonpikes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 200 | View Replies]

To: nonliberal
Does ADHD really exist? We never had it in school when I was growing up. If a kid acted up, they got disciplined

I am 45 and I saw it in other kids when I was in grade school. When one disciplines an individual with a disorder without proper redirection the child interprets this as a personal attack for not doing anything wrong. The child doesn't know how to stop. It is probably one good way to create a serial killer. Think of how frustrating it is to have a disease like MS or fibromyalgia. You can be in incredible pain and because people can't see the illness they start to think you are making excuses, or you are lazy. They can't see the aggregation and pooling of white blood and the build up of toxic mono sodium urate acid which solidifies into little sliver glass-like crystals that tear at your tissues like fiberglass insulation. Think of how horrible it is to be in that level of pain will everyone gets on your case for things you can't help. Think of the monster you could create like the dog that gets poked behind a fence everyday by evil children. What happens between the dog and the kid when the fence is removed.

206 posted on 08/07/2002 3:16:00 PM PDT by MedicalMess
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: Eva
I had a friend whose son tested on the genius level, but had the attention span of a three year old. The older he got, the more out of control his behavior became. He would become so angry in class that he would just get up out of his seat, following an argument with the teacher, and go home. The school tried to force his mother to have him medicated. Tested him to try to qualify him for special ed., to no avail. So, they put him in the gifted class, thinking that maybe he just wasn't challenged enough. All hell broke loose. Anyway, the kid ended up in jail.

See posts 203 and 206 and things will click. Also check other posts by me since this discussion evolves.

207 posted on 08/07/2002 3:25:04 PM PDT by MedicalMess
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
They kept labeling him with disorders, not realizing the side effects of the drugs was making him act this way,

At least the rulers of the Brave New World are described as being smarter than that.

208 posted on 08/07/2002 3:28:03 PM PDT by A. Pole
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bvw
You should read the rest of my posts on this thread if you want to really get an idea of the size of the bomb I'm going to drop on contemporary medicine. It will be real hard for them to discredit their own peoples research papers. And we will also have verified data and real patients to talk to.
209 posted on 08/07/2002 3:41:33 PM PDT by MedicalMess
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 190 | View Replies]

To: Tired of Taxes; Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep
He saved all his report cards from grade school back in the early 70's, and, just like the boy you mentioned - he got all A's, except for "conduct" where he would get a "D" and a teacher's written comment, like:

OH MY!!!!! This is way too funny. My poor mother! It wasn't "D"s, just "unsatisfactory".

I went to parochial school 1-8th grade, and we all knew that we couldn't get away with much... the nuns simply didn't tolerate any nonsense. THEN, I went to public high school. I quickly learned how to confound and torment the teachers. The goal was to spend as little time as possible in the classroom, without getting into trouble like the dummies who would cut class. I deduced that the straight "A"s were a license to be as irritating and distracting as possible. They couldn't accuse me of not doing my work; I would intentionally have it done ahead of time. Ergo, it was easier for the teacher to send me off "to the library" or just dismiss me from class, in order to get me outta their hair.

Once I was sent to the school counselor (back then we only had one, but she sure knew everybody) by a not particularly wise teacher. When I cheerfully arrived at the office, the counselor asked, "What are YOU doing here?". I responded that I would like to know also, since I had completed all of my work and could hardly be accused of slacking off. As a matter of fact, I had brought some magazines/games/deck of cards (I don't remember what it was that particular day) to class in order to keep occupied. LOL. The counselor tried to hide her amusement, but didn't do a very good job. She just let me hang out for a while and then sent me on my way. I was never sent back there.

That teacher didn't want to give me the satisfaction of getting out of class, so she spent the semester trying to maintain order (everybody else thought this was very funny, therefore class attention was not on the lesson plan).

What happy memories! Today's kids are really missing out. :-)

210 posted on 08/07/2002 3:53:00 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | View Replies]

To: Al B.
But don't let that stop you. Despite the fact that there is NO SCIENTIFICALLY VALID WAY to identify a cause for something that can't even be objectively defined, I'm sure you'll get your experiments published......right along with all the other bunk that's in psychiatric journals. The APA will probably even give you a medal.

I have no reason to seek publication in the medical twit magazines besides other people have already tried and been shut out. No what we need is 200 patients cured of incurable disease all on stage at the local University in a press conference. We send advance tapes out with interviews on them to all major news network. We drop the bomb, acuse the AMA of organized mass murder, and sit back and watch them try and spin their way out as the lawsuits start accross the entire US.

It will either be fun or I will be dead. It's not wise to go up against a 1.3 trillion dollar-a-year industry.

211 posted on 08/07/2002 4:08:04 PM PDT by MedicalMess
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 198 | View Replies]

To: MarkL
I also wonder if the "computer age" and video games aren't somewhat to blame here too. I remember when I was in grade school, I'd get home from school, and then go out and play for about 3 hours every day, before dinner.

Yes especially mixed with the medical condition I mentioned in post 11. They can set it off.

212 posted on 08/07/2002 4:11:38 PM PDT by cva66snipe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: cva66snipe
Can an audiologist diagnose CAPD? I sort of suspect my son may have a mild case.

Thanks
213 posted on 08/07/2002 4:16:34 PM PDT by luckystarmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: MedicalMess
That was certainly an interesting review of the situation. My original line of questions was prompted by my graduate school experiences in pathogenic bacteriology. I ditched the field for computer science. The pay is better and the lab doesn't smell as bad :-) Getting a live sample of an anaerobic specimen is tricky. You're quite lucky to have received the frozen sample.

My wife uses Flagyl to treat frounce in her raptors. Her birds sometimes capture an infected pigeon. Use of Flagyl leaves the critter wide open to a Candida infection.

Good luck with your research efforts. I noticed a search for Clostridia and Flagyl brought up lots of hits specific to your observations.

214 posted on 08/07/2002 4:18:08 PM PDT by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 202 | View Replies]

To: MarkL
My son's old Christian school recommended Ritalin to several boys that I do not think have ADHD.

I have a child that has brain damage, and I am very aware of special needs children.

I know of a few children that probably needed Ritalin. They were very, very aggressive and could not sit still to learn how to read.

The kids in my son's school were just fidgety. The school (and parents) didn't even try alternative forms of education before putting their kids on medication. My son is not going to that private school anymore. We're trying public school.
215 posted on 08/07/2002 4:23:10 PM PDT by luckystarmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: alisasny
Dr. Levinsons book Phobia Free gave me answers the other doctor couldn't. When I insisted the doctors treat me for a sensory disorder with Beno class meds rather than anxiety with SSRI's I got much better results. What he linked as Vestibular Disorders causing many of these problems is like true. What Levinson found in the 1970's is now in Vestibular fields being called C.A.P.D. Central Auditory Processing Disorders. It is different from ADD ADHD and must as well be treated different. If anyone wants to say this is a drug company invention think again. Only a trained Audiologist can detect it.
216 posted on 08/07/2002 4:32:19 PM PDT by cva66snipe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 142 | View Replies]

To: MarkL
I remember when I was in grade school, I'd get home from school, and then go out and play for about 3 hours every day, before dinner. Games like "king of the hill," baseball, football, or kickball. Stuff that would wipe a kid out, giving him a chance to burn up all that excess energy. Now, so many kids just sit around, playing computer games or watching TV, and that energy has nowhere to go...

A good point. But what does that have to do with drug profits on school kids?

Actually, most people don't want to discuss how eager many parents are to sedate their children, to have just one more reason why their little darling is so special and has such special, special, special needs that someone (other than themselves) must deal with.

I think a strong return to corporal punishment by the schools might be healthy too. First, whack the kids. Then whack these idiot lazy stupid parents ten times as many strokes as you give the kids. Do it publicly.
217 posted on 08/07/2002 4:32:48 PM PDT by George W. Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: TxBec
My son's 2nd grade teacher also said that she thinks he has ADD. She wanted special provisions when they did the Stanford Acheivement Test, but I said no. He tested way above his grade level in everything except for science (and he wasn't taught any science, unfortunately).

The test confirmed my suspicions, he was bored in 2nd grade.
218 posted on 08/07/2002 4:33:51 PM PDT by luckystarmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: luckystarmom
Can an audiologist diagnose CAPD? I sort of suspect my son may have a mild case.

An Audiologist or a trained Speach Pathologist are the ones who do this type testing. It involves the brains abilities to track more than one functional task at a time. It 's not a matter of smart or dumb it is a matter of how much sensory data {audio, visual, ect they can process at one time. I'll clue you in. Kids with allergies especially sinus allergies, child hood ear infections, or any thing over a prolonged period that effects the Inner Ear can do this. The damage is permenant. It does not go away the child has to learn coping skills.

If left untreated especially if the underlying cause the allergies ect are left untreated the more damage occurs. I reached an accute stage 8 years ago though I have had it all my life. Look for hints. Like shoes worn to one side and broke over lets say with 2 weeks to a month after buying them. Poor eye to muscle coordination is another. This doesn't hint at ADD ADHD but CAPD and the behavioral symptoms are the same. An Audiologist prescribes no medications. If a teacher suspected ADD ADHD I would ask the doctor for a complete Vestibular work up then see an Audiologist.

219 posted on 08/07/2002 4:49:27 PM PDT by cva66snipe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies]

To: cva66snipe
Dr. Levinson really helped my child and my whole family greatly. He was the only person I truly trusted when we went through the whole process the summer before my son went into 2nd grade. He totally agreed with me that my son should INDEED be promoted. The public school shrink I trusted the absolute least. In fact one day she wanted me to sign a release so she could talk to Levinson. I refused and said I would be the middleman between them.

Dr. Levinson was also the only person who told me that I should have a tutor for my son to help him one on one at home. We did that and it truly helped. Anyone who simply puts there kid on RITALIN without doing their homework is a jerk. I'm sorry but that is how I feel after going through this.

AND NEVER USE THE SCHOOL RECOMMENDED DOCTORS, I think they have a racket going on. I happened across Levinson online years ago doing research. While we did use some ritalin and aderall for a while, we also used the meclazine, ginko and lecithan. (excuse my spellings) In addition we used a drug called clonidine to treat my sons inablity to sleep while on the aderall.

He is also very good with the kids and you can see the respect that the children have for him. Some days while waiting in his office people would have suitcases with them, they were coming from all over to see him.

220 posted on 08/07/2002 4:53:30 PM PDT by alisasny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 216 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 181-200201-220221-240241-246 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson