The Coming World War

Many people will disagree with the assertion made by the title. War they will say is not inevitable. Unfortunately they are not looking at the facts…or at least they are not looking at the history.

1400 years ago an Islamic Empire established itself, sweeping across North Africa and into Spain and even Southern France before finally being stopped by the Franks. This clash between Islam and Western Civilization (or as some would refer to it a clash between Islam and Christendom) has not ceased since that day. Muslim incursions into Europe occurred again and again over the course of the millennium and a half that followed, and yes to be fair their were plenty of western incursion into the middle east.

This war has been ongoing and despite what some people might believe did not cease with the collapse and break up of the Ottoman empire following World War I. Contrary to popular belief the break up of the Islamic Empire did not in fact put an end to Imperial Islamic aspirations. Gahdafi, Ayatollah Khomeni, Saddam Hussein and others have all hinted at if not openly declared their intention to:

A. Establish an Islamic Empire. B. Spread that Empire to every corner of the globe.

The evidence out there is overwhelming. Just as a single example; as late as 1995 a council of more than 80 Islamic Nations gather to discuss the Islamic Conquest of Africa. Their stated objective was the total conquest of African as an Islamic continent. With Arabic as the official Language and Islam as the official religion. This council is not an anomaly neither in recent history nor in ancient history.

Since its conception Islam has attempted to spread its religion (by flame and by sword) to every corner of the globe. It is an imperative of the religion. I grow tired of people ignorant of the truth trying to tell me that Islam is a religion of Peace. I am particularly tired of people who have never read the Quran (Koran) telling me that it is a religion of peace. It is not. Their 1400 year old history of trying to conquer and convert the entire globe is proof of that. Their murderous and ceaseless attacks against western civilization are further evidence of that.

They claim that the West (lead by America) practices hegemony. That is actually very true. The west has practiced hegemony against the Islamic world for more that 1400 years. What else can you call it when for fourteen hundred years western civilization has fought off invasion after invasion. Now the west tries desperately to prevent the recreation of an Islamic Empire. Other forces at work in the Middle East try desperately to overcome this obstacle.

Why is war inevitable? For the same reason war was inevitable in Europe 1938. Because a world wanted to insist that peace was possible despite every peace of evidence that it was not. State Department type diplomats convinced their leadership that Hitler and Germany could be dealt with peacefully. That war could be averted. That violence was not necessary. What they got a war that brought them to their knees and almost destroyed them.

Today that same blindness, that same peace at all costs attitude pervades the rest of the world. Just as in 1938 the rest of the world wanted to stick its collective head in the sand and pretend that Germany was not really a threat…so to today is our world full of people who wish to stick our collective heads in the sand. We appease and prevaricate and in the end we give them time. Time to build their arsenals of weapons of mass destruction. All the while thinking that somehow we can convince these people not to use them. Somehow we can convince these people who have not ceased fighting us for fourteen hundred years to suddenly make nice. Somehow, we can convince these people whose only goal and objective is our destruction that we can live peacefully even though their very religion tells them that they must conquer us. (and don’t tell that it doesn’t because 1400 years of Islamic Conquest proves you wrong)

That is why War is inevitable. Because eventually they will have their weapons. And just as we fail to understand them and the reasons why the MUST conquer us…they too in their ignorance of us and our customs will fail to realize why they will never succeed in conquering us. That we would never let them and they will never have the power to succeed. Aided by their cultural failings that tell them that seeking peace and conciliation are weaknesses rather than a moral imperative they will see us as weak because we fail to do what we should which is ACT…and in the end that failure will cause a worse war.

Do not get me wrong. I do not intend to paint a doom and gloom picture and the destruction of the world. They are not powerful enough to defeat us, nor are they patient enough to wait until they are strong enough, before they strike. And in the end they do not understand us enough to know that they would be well advised not to. Such a war would only have one possible outcome. Their utter annihilation. It saddens me, and angers me some as well, that so many will be lost that do not need to be if we would only accept what is and what must be and strike now while we can and not wait until the inevitable explosion that is to come.

1400 years ago Turkey, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Algeria and Morroco were all predominantly Christian nations. Now the battleground has shifted into center of Europe itself.

Let's recognize the role of the Byzantines in stanching the Islamic tide for almost 800 years. They were the only Christian superpower after Charlemagne's empire disintegrated and they held the line; protecting the Balkans from invasion. Eventually Constantinople fell and the Turks surged forward but Western Christendom had had time to emerge as a power and were able to stop and roll back the tide though it took 450 years.

Charlemagne wasnt for another 200 years. And who cares who founded France...I would certainly hope that the Franks exhisted before the Moorish invasion (during the time of the Umyaad Dynasties conquests) pushed into southern France in 719 where the FRANKS stopped them and by 756 pushed them out of France. That is the facts of the matter. Charlemagne wasnt born yet and neither was your precious Sancho. I am speaking of the events in Southern Fance in the early part of 700 not the reconquest of Spain. I am not even speaking of defeating the Moors in Spain at all which you in all of your infinate knowledge oh swami of scholars can not seem to get your brain around. I am talking about the fact that the moors ie/muslim who invaded into Spain and then pushed into France were not stopped until the Franks stopped their incursions INTO FRANCE. That is a documented fact. It is France I am speaking of not Spain. I am talking about the initial conquests of the fledgling Islamic Empire under the Umayaad Dynasty. Which conquered the the Visgoths in Spain and were stopped by the Franks in France. before finally being pushed back into Spain. That is exactly what I stated in my piece and that is in fact the documented history in short.

I couldnt agree with you more regarding the role of teh Byzantium in stemming the Islamic Tide. Were it not for them Eaurope would probably have been swallowed whole centuries ago. Europe for all that it was christian was in an of itself fairly weak and disorganized in and of itself petty kings fighting amongst themselves half more petty barbaric robber barons than true christians. Fortuanetly Europe was getting its act together (comparatively speeking) by the time Constantinople fell but even still the Ottomans cause a great deal of bloodshed that to this days spawns bloody civil wars in the balkans..all between muslims and christians.

Contrary to popular belief the break up of the Islamic Empire did not in fact put an end to Imperial Islamic aspirations. Gahdafi, Ayatollah Khomeni, Saddam Hussein and others have all hinted at if not openly declared their intention to

It's the Saudis who are really interested in an Islamic Empire. Saddam and Gadhafi are basically socialist dictators. They are to Islam as Hitler was to Christianity: they're happy to use Islam for political purposes, but their real religion is their own power. If they weren't 1500 miles apart, they'd be at each others' throats, too.

"…it doesn't look much to me like we're "reloading"… We are woefully short of ammunition, as well as the precision munitions that the media love so much… Where are our oil reserves (which MIGHT be necessary, since we're likely to be tangling with the people who control the spigots)?"

US Orders Oil Reserves Filled

We don't need everything else you described. We don't need a WWII type mobilization. We're not give the fascist militant governments an excuse to unite with nuclear powers in the east or neutral powers in Europe, we're going to take them out one nation at a time over the next several years. Just stay resolved.

Mohammed comes in at 571. Martel in 688. The formal Moorish invasion comes as late as 714 or thereabouts. However, Islamic missionaries had already been there, and in SW France. Islam was not spread entirely by the sword.

It is highly doubtful that the Moslems in France much appreciated Martel and his gang nosing around.

The levels of civilization of the two parties were quite pronounced at the time, and any modern person would have much preferred living in the Moslem areas to living in almost anything else in France.

San Cho Noe came from Cornwall. Although many other tribes lived in the rump Visigoth state in Galicia (that is, Carvajal), the number of folks moving in from Brittain probaly exceeded the existing population substantially.

If you want to call the Salicians "Franks", go ahead. They certainly didn't have a Frankish empire - and rest assured Louis XIV relished having Leinsterian ancestors much more than he did "Frankish" ancestors.

I dont disagree with you but it is important to note that just because a dictator is socialistic does not mean that he is not Islamic or just because he is secluar does not mean that he is above using Islamic faith as a means to their end. Even in the earliest days of the Islamic culture their were factions and powers within islam each seeing itself as teh "leader" of Islam. Some Factions would call other secular while other would complain that they were too radical. This is nothing new. Despite these infighting among factions however. It did not prevent them from conquering and establishing Islamic Empires in one form or another. To say that it was always one empire is inaccurate Just like the notion of a Chinese empire is true but not complete since there were many dynasty of verying power and influence in what was at one time a chinese empire. That did not cease being an Empire until the Communists in the 50's. My is that just because Saddam and Gahdafi are secular does not in fact mean that they do not aspire to control of a massive Islamic state...nor does nit make them NON muslim...and it certainly does not mean that they would not put aside there enmities to make common cause against an outsider. The Islamic histories are full of just those kinds of things.

...we're going to take them out one nation at a time over the next several years. Just stay resolved.

That is if they let us take them out one at a time. These people are evil, not stupid. They must all know that they are in the crosshairs, if for no other reason that we are in their crosshairs and any sensible aggressor expects his target to fight back. In any case, I will submit that we still need more bullets and bombs, and that we need to have larger reserves of trained fighters, defense-oriented manufacturing capabilities and critical raw materials. You never know what will happen, and a prudent planner tries to reduce risk as much as possible. I hope that you are correct, and that these regimes fall like dominoes over the next several years, but this country would be foolish to count on that happening. And China is still a total wildcard.

I'm glad to hear that our oil reserves are filled. I'd like to have more, as there's no telling what will happen - you could have some nukes flying over there, especially if Israel is subjected to a serious chemical or biological attack. In that case getting oil from the Persian Gulf producers could be a big problem, even if the fields themselves are not targets - a little thing known as fallout could render the fields unusable for a few years.

My resolve hasn't, and won't, falter. I hope the same can be said for our pea-brained employees when the lefties in the press and media decide that they've had enough of the War on Terror.

Not all Islam was spread by the sword...ok fine no it was not but that has nothing to do with the point I make.

You state that the Muslims in Southern France did not care to have Martel "nosing around" that is disingenuous. It intimates that the Mulsims in Southern France were welcome in the first place when in fact they did come as invaders a few missionaries does not negate the fact that the muslims were invading Southern France. Or I suppose that the battle at Poitiers was just Martel slaughtering a bunch of helpless innocent unarmed Muslims who happened to march their looking for a home. As for what to call the french at the time I suppose one could call them the Carolingian Dynasty Which was really started by Martel but even Martels father Pepin was a tremendous power in France before Martels defeat of the muslims.

Nevertheless the Merovingians were followed by the Carolingians and they by the Capetians but all were considers Franks.

Nicely written.

I disagree with the following though:

nor are they patient enough to wait until they are strong enough, before they strike

There is plenty of evidence that Islam is learning patience. One example is the terrorist cells in this country that lead up to the 9/11 attacks. It is particularily unsettling that they had the patience to wait around for several years before attacking. Another example is how French culture is slowly disappearing as the European French abort themselves out of existance while the Arab French are having large families and are not adopting to traditional French culture.

I'm afraid that they've come to the realization that the West cannot be beaten in a direct frontal attack.

I suppose that the battle at Poitiers was just Martel slaughtering a bunch of helpless innocent unarmed Muslims who happened to march their looking for a home. As for what to call the french at the time I suppose one could call them the Carolingian Dynasty Which was really started by Martel but even Martels father Pepin was a tremendous power in France before Martels defeat of the muslims.

Oh, those muslims were looking for a home, all right - just like a bunch of their relatives who inadvertently laid siege to Vienna while looking for rooms to rent.

If I "accidentally" spoiled their plans... tough merde!

:^)

Stopping the muslim horde cold... not a bad piece of work for a lowly mayor of the palace.

Mostly true...and if the Islamic world were one controlled by a singular entity with an iron will I might be nervous. But the problem is that there are too many men in the middle east who see them selves in the drivers seat. Someone is going to get ahead of themselves and do something foolish like nuke New York or Washigton and that will be all she wrote.

I do see patience in their philosophy though. Take the whole Palistinian crisis. What better way to distract westerners then by blowing up some people in Jeruselum It works as well. We are all so busy screaming for peace meanwhile the real Msulim powers are buidling massive arsenals. While we focaus on a Palestinian problem that is not ever going to go away until Israel expells them all..and even then it wont totally go away. They do have patience...but the temptation is too great for them to deliver a telling blow to America. One of them will strike at us eventually and they will not have the patience to wait until they have 1000 nukes pointed at us. The tensions between the east and west are going to continue to get more and more exasperated. Both the PA's intifadah as well as Bin Ladens own attack on the WTC are examples of that. If the muslims were patient they would have waited untiol they could really do some damage...Why announce to the world the intention to destroy us. All they did was wake us up to that reality. To what purpose. We have killed probably ten times the number of people they did in the WTC attacks. A sleeping public has just been reawakened. and War has already been entered into. It will now escelate. They will not go to sleep again for 50 years and continue to build an arsenal. We will be hit again and soon. Their culture demands it of them. Now that war has been entered they will continue to "retaliate" until it sescelates out of control. I have no doubt that people like Saddam are seething with frustration over the WTC. What a stupid ill timed mood. Just a fewe more years and he would have nukes and now the Americans are going to come and kill him.

At any rate. My only point is that while yes they are patient. They do not have the kind of strategic patience they need. They will not work together except up to a point because despite being ultimately on the same side...even they are enemies amongst themselves and each one wanst to be the driver.

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