Posted on 08/02/2002 7:32:42 AM PDT by TopQuark
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
'He was hunting for a place to kill them and bury them'
Authorities remove the body of Roy Ratliff near Lake Isabella, California, on Thursday.
LANCASTER, California (CNN) -- The man who abducted two teenage girls at gunpoint early Thursday was "hunting for a place to kill them" in a remote desert spot about 100 miles away when two deputies located him and fatally shot him, authorities said.
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I guess, you are honest about being a mean dog. Why would you wish bad things to someone?
Sorry to disappoint you: I am way past raising teenagers. And, although I have two very stern German shepherds, none of them is mean either.
Both are now married and I've just learned I'm going to be a 1st time grandfather this October...
I am genuinely happy for you. I wish your daughter easy pregnancy, safe delivery, and many years of happiness in her expanding family.
Given you mean spirit, I shall not be responding to you any further.
HAhaha ha..People get kidnapped in broad day light at greedy mart parking lots, in their bedrooms etc...The time don't mean squat..
As kids get older they stay out longer and slowly part from Mom and Dad...LOL
You apparently must be younger than me. I am 53. I was so scared of my Dad that I didn't dare sneak out or stay out that late at 16 or 17. Now 18 was different. He would have blistered the hell out of me, and I knew it. He had a mean belt, Meandog. Of course today our communist government will not allow this.
Haha, I guess my parents aren't very strict. I used to stay out all night when I was 13. I never really did have a curfew or anything.
Thank you...did not mean to sound mean to you; it's just that I'm fed up with FReeper "pie-in-the-sky" attitude about what is ideal parenting. Since you raised teens, you can appreciate the anguish we go through. The girls in question on this thread, according to the story, were both raped and severly traumatised. I know their parents are going through a lot and my heart goes out to them...I also know that parents can set curfews for teens but that doesn't mean that they won't be broken. What's a parent to do? Handcuff them to a closet in their room on Friday and Saturday night? I took away driving privileges, I forbade groady-looking friends entry to my home, I even had to sic MY former German Shepherd (who was mean and who I still grieve for) on the door when a "boyfriend" showed up with body piercings, green hair and condoms sticking out of his shirt pocket. Still, I went through the ordeal of missing beer from the fridge, heathen devil weed residue in car ashtrays and 2 a.m. worrying when both of my girls were on Cinderella time!
ok some weird guy pulls up and walks over to your driver side window with a pistol and they just sit there waiting for him to walk up.....hellow??? They don't do anything or at least try to drive away????
We don't have to worry about him being rehabilitated," Sparks said of Ratliff. "We don't have to worry about the Supreme Court. He is deceased."
I can hear some of the libs right now. Those awful cops killed a man for engaging in what was obviously a lifestyle choice!
Just watch. I'm cynical enough to believe that the widow will sue.
At the risk of a little pop-psych thinking, I strongly suspect that the "blame the parents" crowd, on this and similar threads, make their comments as a way of assuring themselves that THEIR kids (grandkids, nieces, nephews, whatever) would never find themselves in this situation. It's in large part a defensive reaction to horrific news -- a way to reassure yourself that you and yours are not in danger.
And I thought I was the only one! :) Except Dad set my rules. When I was 16 and a junior and started dating (NO dating before then!), my curfew was 11, and of course only weekends - no going out on school nights unless it was a church or school function. When I was a senior, I begged for more ("All my friends stay out later than me!") and it was changed to 1130.
Once I officially graduated, I complained to my dad that I wasn't a kid anymore and he said "Are you still living in MY house?" I said something like "Oh come ON, Dad!" to which he replied "OK, 1145." So my curfew that whole summer, til I left for college, was an embarassing 1145. LOL! Of course, now my attitude is a little adjusted and I appreciate his being so stubborn.
Oh, you not alone Tami, there are millions of folks just like you.
And I can't stress enough about this current news conference going on now. The animal control officer is on now!
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