Posted on 07/27/2002 8:30:11 AM PDT by JohnFiorentino
Retired airline Pilot Capt. Ray Lahr has brought suit against the NTSB for release of the data pertaining to the alleged "zoom-climb" by TWA800. NTSB has stated that this event was what the hundreds of witnesses observed prior to the TWA800 explosion.
You can view the amended complaint in it's entirety here:
http://www.twa800.com/lahr/lahr-amended.htm
Seems like Jim T must have had termites in his hairpiece that day...
It is also clear to me that Boeing could demonstrate the truth or falsity of this scenario on one of their A/C simulators and resolve the question. And probably has. Is Boeing defending this theory?
Thousands of feet? I love this "fact". Talk about nutburger theories...
Boeing has gone on record as having nothing to do with the CIA video, and had no comment on the NTSB video.
Most people in America would just as soon believe the government with their cartoon theory and forget the whole thing it seems. They wouldn't want to miss that soccer game or TV show because of a headache caused by thinking too much..
Dear Conspiracy Guys, and that includes missile us or missile them guys, and bomb, and drone, and laser, and sabotage guys and anyone else who thinks some people know the real cause of TWA crash and are keeping it secret while planting government agents in electronic mailing lists to thwart your truth.
This government agent thing has gone far enough. To seriously consider me, personally, John Barry Smith, as a government agent doing whatever is seriously crazy. As in nuts. As in detached from reality.
So, while it was fun for a while, so preposterous that it brought a smile, I played along thinking it was joke. No more, now it is getting close to the public hearing so here are some conclusions:
When I think you conspiracy guys who think I am a government agent are nuts, and I do, that means I make certain decisions. If you think I am a government agent, you make certain decisions. These can be dangerous decisions.
When I see a really crazy person, I consider that person dangerous. Here's why; any action that the crazy person does is justified by his excuse, I thought this so I did that. Irrational actions can occur from crazy people. Irrational acts are dangerous acts.
If you think I am a deceptive government agent attempting to thwart your truth, and I think you do think that, then you may feel justified in doing harmful action against me, all justified in your mind. That is dangerous to me.
If I think you are crazy, and I do, then I may feel justified in doing harmful action in misperceived defense. That is dangerous to you.
So, it is best we stay apart physically. Way far apart. So, I will not wave to you, talk to you, shout at you, or in any way acknowledge your presence should we happen to cross paths. I'll just starting walking away. I ask that you do the same for me. If I am pointed out, or if I introduce myself to a group in which you are a part, don't wave, don't say anything, don't acknowledge my presence, just ignore me. Just pretend I don't exist.
If we stay apart then, our mutal misperceptions will not have a chance to cause harm by error. If you should introduce yourself or otherwise identify yourself near me, I shall walk away if able. If you follow, I shall call security as you have been asked to stay away from me.
That's what conspiracy does, it puts fear in everyone's minds. It is a sick thing. It is to be avoided. You are to be avoided. Your sickness is spreading with crazy thinking about terrorists with a missile to US Navy ship and subs, to the FBI, to CIA, the President, to ATC, to newspapers, to mechanics, to government officials, and now to citizens who even talk about a plane crash in a plane crash open forum.
You crossed over the line when you believed I am a government agent secretly put here to thwart your important truth.
You are detached from reality and if you make actions based upon that fantasy, you are dangerous. It's putting on a Superman Cape and jumping off the roof thinking you can fly.
Stay away from me.
I know the real cause for TWA 800 and am telling as many people as I can as fast as I can, inadvertent rupture at aft midspan latch of the forward cargo door inflight on high time Boeing 747s, including TWA 800. There is no conspiracy to conceal the aft midspan latch rupture problem in high time Boeing 747s. There is no conspiracy to cover up the door problem in PA 103. There is no conspiracy to cover up the door problem in AI 182. There is no conspiracy to hide the door problem of TWA 800. There is no conspiracy by the Navy to conceal an accidental shootdown. There is no conspiracy to sabotage airplanes at JFK. There is no conspiracy to place a bomb on board TWA 800. There is no conspiracy to push false center tank explosion as initial event. There is no conspiracy to plant government agents on electronic mailing services. There is no conspiracy of newspapers to make fun of conspiracy people and defame them. There is no conspiracy of ATC or the FBI to doctor radar tapes. There is no conspiracy of NYPD divers or Navy personnel to wash off evidence from wreckage. There is no conspiracy of the White House to confiscate radar evidence and alter it. There is no conspiracy to not investigate forward cargo door explanation as cause. There is no conspiracy to make your life miserable.
Your internal map of reality territory is wrong, and instead of changing the map, you attempt to change the territory. Wrong, stupid and crazy thinking.
This is a real person who is telling you conspiracy guys who think I am a government agent to keep the hell away from me in real life.
And I'll return the favor. 'nuff said.
Sincerely,
John Barry Smith
If TWA 800 blew up as the result of a faulty cargo door latch, then the government lied as to the cause of TWA 800's demise. Despite the government's failure to recreate the CWT's spontaneous explosion, going so far as to mimick "Nightline's" exploding pickup truck shenanigans, they are sticking with the faulty wiring/CWT/Zoom Climb theory.
Thus, the government is concealing the true cause of TWA 800's fall, which according to your own sources or beliefs is due to a known cargo door defect, and therefore, the government is guilty of conspiracy.
On a stylistic note: Posting in large fonts does not render one's content any more valid, and in fact, has the psychological effect of leaving the reader with the impression that the author is ranting, rather than debating logically.
In fact, Smith's theory was on the internet long before the TWA 800 disaster and arose out of the UAL 811, PA 103, AI 182 disasters "and possibly CI 611". http://corazon.com/.
The vigilante Storm Trooper tactics by the wannabe experts "shootdown" tinfoil hats for over six years now of deliberately and maliciously inciting suspicion, fear and hatred of anybody who disagreed with them have been outrageous and disgusting.
Your buddy sound like a real fruit cake.
[1]These words describe the individual who spammed and attacked the NYSTATE.com message board during the bereavement period after the accident! [2]This message board consisted mainly of TWA employees, families of victims and well wishers. [3]This individual was named ELMER BARR, do we know what his motive was to shut the board down?
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