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To: PhiKapMom
One 5 year old is playing in front of a condo with a playmate -- no adults around; the second one is in a house where they allowed a homeless man to sleep on the couch. . . Where is the adult responsibility in both cases?

No flame intended, but I'll offer you this:

I can't tell you how many times, as a kid, I went off to play with my friends in the summer and was gone all day. I grant you it was usually in someone's back yard, but rarely was there non-stop adult supervision throughout the day. Parents were home, but they were in and out.

O. K. That was forty-some years ago. And that was then and this is now. But even when my own kids were small, it was impossible for my wife and I to be with them every single minute.

Pointing to lack of adult supervision is a straw man in this case. Point to the perverts who did this. Point to the culture that produced them. Point to the everything's-relative, anything-goes, Pop-psych, I'm-O.K., You're-O.K. kind of liberalism that keeps rubber-stamping this kind of thng. And above all, point to the kind, tolerant, compassionate liberal judicial activists who embark on social engineering from the Bench who keep letting these bastards loose over and over and over again.

Again, no flame intended. Just my two cents.

Secondly, if I were staying in someone's house and they allowed a homeless man or someone I didn't know to sleep there, I would have left with my daughter.

No argument there. It makes you wonder just what these parents were thinking given the times in which we live.

For their child to get snatched off the street is bad enough. For them to invite a potential murderer into their home -- a stranger no less -- I just don't know. . .

As for the men that killed them, they should be put to death immediately so they cannot get out on some technicality by some defense lawyer and a liberal CA judge!

Roger that. Never happen though. Already we're hearing (at least in the California case) that evidence was planted by racist white cops who are out to get the innocent oppressed person of color, and how this is really a vendetta against Hispanics. I'm surprised it took them that long.

If the Samantha Runion killer gets any jail time at all, you can bet it will be overturned on appeal, or life imprisonment is really legalese for time served plus six months. He'll be on the street some enough. Count on it.

263 posted on 07/26/2002 4:15:46 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Euro-American Scum
Already we're hearing (at least in the California case) that evidence was planted by racist white cops who are out to get the innocent oppressed person of color, and how this is really a vendetta against Hispanics.

Wow! I hadn't heard this. NOW I'm mad (or madder.)

270 posted on 07/26/2002 4:24:46 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Euro-American Scum
Pointing to lack of adult supervision is a straw man in this case. Point to the perverts who did this. Point to the culture that produced them. Point to the everything's-relative, anything-goes, Pop-psych, I'm-O.K., You're-O.K. kind of liberalism that keeps rubber-stamping this kind of thng. And above all, point to the kind, tolerant, compassionate liberal judicial activists who embark on social engineering from the Bench who keep letting these bastards loose over and over and over again.

Ditto! There is no parent that hasn't at one time or another had a lapse in judgement for the time that their child could be snatched by some pervert. Working parents and single parents are especially vulnerable.

I don't so much blame the parents as society's screwed-up-ness. This little girl was in a house with her father. Anyone would think she should be safe. Little Samantha lived in a 'safe' neighborhood and was outdoors with a friend. I'm sick that the only way our children can be safe today is to lock them up in their homes. The inmates have the freedom, the victims are behind bars!

277 posted on 07/26/2002 4:37:59 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Euro-American Scum
I used to play outside also but times are different and I lived in a neighborhood where people had lived for years. Even then my Mom wouldn't let me play in the front yard -- always in the back. If I went to my girlfriend's up two houses up and across the street -- she watched me until I went in the front door. And I grew up in a town of 2500 where you walked to school.

When I had my three kids, times had already changed and they were never allowed at that age to play in the front yard without me being right there. Call me an overprotective mother -- my three played in the backyard with the gates to backyard fixed so they couldn't open them to get out. Even then I worked in the back of the house to keep an eye on what was going on.

I lived in a foothill town of SoCal but even then I was very leary of what I observed of some of the people that went up our street thinking we were the road to Oak Glen and stopped to ask directions.

Just put me in the category that every parent should be overprotective when it comes to the safety of their children.

297 posted on 07/26/2002 5:36:06 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Euro-American Scum
If the Samantha Runion killer gets any jail time at all, you can bet it will be overturned on appeal, or life imprisonment is really legalese for time served plus six months. He'll be on the street some enough.

Nope, I think you're very very wrong.

349 posted on 07/26/2002 10:59:42 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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