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Riverside County SO said ALEXANDRO AVILA was acquitted for molesting two girls several years ago
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Posted on 07/19/2002 1:36:19 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

They had a story stating the Riverside County Sheriff's Office said they tried to convict him of molesting two teens several years ago, but the jury acquitted him. Also, "sources" stated that the suspect dated previously dated a woman near the complex where the abduction took place, that he "eerily" matches the police drawings, and two girls remember him trying to lure them into a car a couple weeks ago.

Expect to hear more of this around 6pm.


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To: Humidston
What the heck does that have to do with anything? I was saying that in this case, a 5 year old has given a remarkable description of a man that she (may have) barely seen. The police in UT are saying (or her family won't let her) that she is "too young" and didn't see "enough" because it was dark, yet she gave them an almost exact match of Richard Ricci. So why hasn't she been near a sketch artist?
61 posted on 07/19/2002 5:04:38 PM PDT by DJ88
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To: Teacup
Check out post 48 (particularly the pictures in link)
62 posted on 07/19/2002 5:08:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: DJ88
Hey, I'm not trying to pick a fight with anyone. I just recall a little Asian girl who attended school with my granddaughter. She and her entire family thought it was a real treat to go to the library - so they could check out books and read every evening.

I hold high regard for people like that. People who train their children right. I thought you were expressing surprise that a girl so young could've given such an accurate description.

The Ricci situation and the lack of a sketch in the Elizabeth Smart case is a separate question, IMO. If I knew the answer to that, I'd change my name to Solomon.
63 posted on 07/19/2002 5:19:45 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: Uni-Poster
Thanks for the list, Uni-P. Lewd acts with force, violence and duress, acquitted acquitted acquitted acquitted acquitted. Who was on that jury?
64 posted on 07/19/2002 5:20:57 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: PoisedWoman
Who was on the jury? Probably lots of Gore voters!
65 posted on 07/19/2002 5:26:13 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: Teacup
Let's hope they can pin this killing and the Martinez boy's on this perp. Maybe Danielle VanDam's too. I'd feel better if one perp was to blame, as I don't like to think about several degenerate childkillers on the loose. Whoever killed Samantha deserves to be hung by uno cojone over a vat of boiling oil and lowered very slowly until dead!

News conference in a few minutes. Might be too soon for DNA evidence to be identified in lab, but I'm hoping the news will be definitive.
66 posted on 07/19/2002 5:36:02 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: DJ88
Which leads me to another question, relating to the Smart case: this little girl was more than 100 yards away from this guy and she was able to give such a GOOD description of him;

This begs CORRECTION! The witness was only a few feet from the car. They were playing on a 'bench/wall' near the street. Samantha, unfortunately, only took a few steps toward the car when she was grabbed. Greta Van Sustein's showed the actual the abduction site including where the two girls were playing. It was less than 10 feet.

67 posted on 07/19/2002 6:15:53 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: pabianice
I can't bring myself to click on the NAMBLA link you provided and look at this dreck.

However, I noticed that it is a .de domain? That's Germany, where I live!

Can someone pull up the Internet registration info for this site? I would like to forward it to the local authorities. German police does have a cybercrime unit.
68 posted on 07/19/2002 6:28:07 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: PoisedWoman; aristeides; OKCSubmariner; EBUCK; Fred Mertz
This name is on google for Texas,Carson City, Nevada,and Nebraska!

One has a birthdate of 8-13-1974.Does that match this guy?
69 posted on 07/19/2002 6:29:17 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo
News conference on CNN Sheriff says he is 100% sure Avila is their man. He has been arrested for the murder of Samatha
70 posted on 07/19/2002 6:32:34 PM PDT by calawah98
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To: BurbankKarl
Can you or anyone here, give me the URL to the list of California sex offenders? Esp. Riverside Cty? My daughter recently moved there,--she is young, single, and beautiful. I want to make sure none of these creeps lives in her apartment complex. Also, does CA have concealed carry? I am thinking of buying her a neat little sidearm. To the gun aficionados, what type of gun would you suggest? She needs it to be discreet, (what do you think of small guns in ankle holsters?) as she is a professional in a city job.
72 posted on 07/19/2002 6:54:26 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Palladin; All
How do I ping the California list to get an answer to my questions?
73 posted on 07/19/2002 7:12:12 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Aria
Yes, everything I've learned taught me that rape is about domination and violence. It has very little to nothing to do with sex.
74 posted on 07/19/2002 7:23:55 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: BurbankKarl
Is this guy a "motor voter?"
75 posted on 07/19/2002 7:38:02 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: parsifal
Hi pars,

At this point, pretty much the whole psychological community agrees on this: all pedophiles were molested as children, yet all of these victims do not grow up to be pedophiles. So, what's the deciding factor? I have some professional experience in this area so I will say early detection and intervention is critical. This is not something that can be swept under the rug and become "a family secret". Thankfully, this attitude is becoming less common.

A victim will go either of two ways: they will identify in the victim role, develop compassion and perhaps go on to help other people, or they will identify with the predator's role and move on to become abusers themselves (this applies in all types of abuse). If the childhood victims are treated and monitored, the tendency towards the latter diminishes (although I don't have specific statistics for you). The child/would be abuser can start abusing early on, sometimes in childhood on other children. (It is very common, however, for all child victims to act out what is happening to them. They don't always tell with words but frequently behavior and pictures). Anyway, the child/future abuser who grows up without treatment will prey until he or she gets caught and even afterward. They have zero compassion for their victims. That's common, although the level of violence and sadism varies. This guy Avila sounds off the charts there.

Can any of these people be rehabilitated? The stats are dismal. Many have tried but once a predator gets to adulthood I would say the chances are not good. If/once some of these people get out of jail, should they be forever monitored in a halfway house or with an ankle monitor of some sort? I don't know. Would the less violent ones participate in some kind of research or aversion therapy? Maybe. It would take committment and a desire to be healed. I think that's rare. There has to be some way of determining who is the most dangerous and likely to reoffend and release them in the appropriate setting, if at all.

I have to wonder if this Avila guy was on an illegal drug, perhaps meth, when he did this or if he was into any evil practices. He went much further than the average pedophile goes.

76 posted on 07/19/2002 8:05:26 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: BurbankKarl
OC REGISTER.com - THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER: "ALEJANDRO AVILA, OF LAKE ELSINORE, ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH SAMANTA RUNNION'S KIDNAP-MURDER"

PEDO WATCH.org: "SEX OFFENDER AND OTHER OFFENDER LISTS"

77 posted on 07/19/2002 8:21:17 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: DJ88
I think a very famous sketch artist was supposed to meet with her, but one of the uncles in the smart family put a stop to it on the morning they were going to do a sketch.

Wish I could remember the artists name, but she has been involved in some really famous cases.

78 posted on 07/19/2002 9:05:46 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever!
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To: Freedom4US
Nothing "sick" asbout this guy: he is just plain evil!
79 posted on 07/19/2002 9:15:32 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: uncitizen

"Americanized Hispanic?" Are they trying to say he's more like a WHITE than an ILLEGAL? That is a new term...I've not heard it before.
80 posted on 07/19/2002 9:20:58 PM PDT by brat
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