UPDATE ON SAMANTHA (CA) Arrest made in murder!!!!!!!

7/19/02 | Joe Hadenuf

[Joe Hadenuf]

Update from OC Sheriff... Press conference..

Playing 911 tape of the people that found the body, male caller was extremely upset, and scared, he was crying, and telling 911 the location but the cell phone transmission was breaking up and was disconnected.

They called the telephone number he left before the disconnect and they called his home and got a messege machine. He called back within minutes and made contact again with 911 and was almost hysterical and crying saying it was little girl and was very distraught,

When Cell caller got home he called again from home phone and recontacted 911, 911 said they would pick him up and the he could show him where the body was.

End of 911 tape

Press conference continues, stating over 2000 citizens have given leads......

Another press conference at 6 PM

At 955 AM they made an arrest alihondro avial DOB 3-1375

[KineticKitty]

I took issue with your comments because you associated crime with California...period.

SOOO glad you don't live here anymore.

I associate a lot of things with California, But I do not associate those things ONLY with California. By far California is not the only state I would not wish to reside in. I am also sooo glad I do not live there as well, I want alittle more slower, peaceful, and alittle less populated place to live than {in general} Southern California can provide.

[alexandria]

Is it a full moon or what?
No, but both Samantha and Danielle's bodies were dumped on the 16th day of the month. According to the bug guys testimony.

[andy_card]

So, you're pro pornography, to boot, ugh?

No. I'm neutral towards it.

[Letitring]

If I read some of that correctly, the defense made motions to supress his prior sexual behavior with children AND motion to supress his known sexual adult behavior.Three motions like these were supressed. I'm guessing that means there is more to this guy's criminal record. Wouldn't you love to know what this Claude Eric Davis, investigating officer, of this mess, thinks about all of this current stuff?

[Desdemona]

"I feel i[f] this is the guy, that this will turn our courts on end.....Much of the anger will be turned towards the courts and the justice system if this suspect turns out to be the guy, and indeed has priors."

That would be a good thing. Animals who kidnap, rape, torture and murder have no place in a civilized society. That's why we build prisons.

[Bella_Bru]

The little girl who gave the description and the officer who had to understand a 5 year old's description should BOTH be commended.

[Howlin]

I noticed that.....plus we had the inevitable discussions of pornography groupies. I mean, it has to be involved, but we don't need to hash that out on THIS thread, do we?

It's like a train; everybody wants on to push their ideas.

[dinasour]

Everybody knows California is the land of nuts and flakes...I'm from the South, where we all marry our cousins and have bad teeth...

Actually, isn't this in Orange County. I am on the other coast and am not familiar with the local politics. But I thought that was a fairly conservative area. Didn't B1-Bob come from Orange County?

If this is true, it shows in the quality of the police force. This Police Chief didn't get his job from an affirmative action quota.

BTW. I'm originally from the south, I have bad teeth, but my cousins were too ugly, so I had to come to Connecticut to find a women. :-)

[Bella_Bru]

Have you ever visited a trailer park? You will find plenty of white trash there who just love double negatives.

[Bella_Bru]

Just be happy she isn't living in our state anymore, Joe.

[LibertyGirl77]

Yes, 'Kalifornia' has the death penalty. This might be an excellent time to put it to good use.

[wimpycat]

How about child pornography, which is not protected by the 1st amendment. If actual children are used, it's criminal, and I don't really think you're neutral about that.

[Freedom2specul8]

Thanks for pointing that out! It's an interesting coincidence..but everything has to have a margin of error...I'd say at least 3-4 days give or take.. (in danielle's case anyway)

[andy_card]

No, no, a_c just wants you to understand that we have to be totally amoral about this. It would a GREATER wrong to "impose your morality" on the pr0n addict than the crimes that many of those addicts perpetrate, including raping and killing children. But it's not like he's a liberal or anything.

Since the biggest supporters of outlawing pornography are Gloria Steinem and the NOW crowd, I think I'd have a heck of a lot more justification accusing you of being a liberal.

[HamiltonJay]

Illbay, its an unwinable argument... unfortunately too many here just want to have a nice little stereotype to blame and fit into their view of the world.... to them every child molester must be a foreign devil... no matter that statistically most molestors are white men. These are the same small minds that still refuse to believe Westerfield abducted, raped and murdered that little girl because the parents were swingers....

I think far too many folks on here, claim to be loving caring christians, but few if any have ever read the book of Job, or other parts of the bible. Not every bad act that happens in this world is deserved, and not every immoral act is greated in kind. But those types of thoughts just don't mesh with thier protected world viewpoint. IF this bastard is an illegal, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference... you think illegals are only ones out there molesting children? EVIL is not bound by borders or languages or race... EVIL is EVIL period.

[Joe Hadenuf]

If your read between the lines, she sounds very angry where ever she ended up. Hehehe.......

[Freedom2specul8]

Bump to that post. Even *I* get tired of talkin about it. :)

[andy_card]

We've HAD laws against filth and smut for DECADES.

And the Sedition Act was passed in 1798. That doesn't make it Constitutional.