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DON'T BLAME BUBBA
New York Post ^
| July 14, 2002
| By PETER BEINART
Posted on 07/14/2002 8:20:42 AM PDT by sakic
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:07:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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LOTS of arguments are wrong; fewer are absurdly wrong. But the absurd ones are sometimes the most revealing. By stretching facts and logic past the breaking point, they lay bare the ideological assumptions that more plausible assertions often disguise.
So it is with the right's suggestion that Bill Clinton is to blame for today's corporate scandals. "It's impossible to understand Enron," editorialized The Wall Street Journal, "outside the moral climate in which it flourished . . . [in] the Clinton years, when we learned that
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:20:42 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: sakic
I got his far:
conservatives are actually suggesting that Enron and WorldCom cooked their books because Clinton lied about oral sex.
Negative- it is in part because when the man at the top is a known rotter, all those below ( who are inclined to be crooked ) feel empowered to push the limits and see how much they can get away with. And for a while, they did.
2
posted on
07/14/2002 8:27:17 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
If you had read the rest you might be able to address the parts about Millken and Boesky and Reagan.
3
posted on
07/14/2002 8:28:42 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: backhoe
And Keating.
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:29:44 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: sakic
Markets a cyclical and the sins of the 90s have come home to roost.
5
posted on
07/14/2002 8:31:01 AM PDT
by
ChadGore
To: sakic
Good thing you posted this on a Sunday.
You flame retardent suit may not get as strong a workout from the GOP's Amen Corner. Or the "Blame Bubba For All" crowd.
6
posted on
07/14/2002 8:32:31 AM PDT
by
L,TOWM
To: backhoe
That is EXACTLY where I stopped reading.
Do these people really believe that is the only lie "he" told or is it a deliberate deception they parrot?
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:32:51 AM PDT
by
cyncooper
To: sakic
Not one mention of the *Crinton tax increase - supposedly taxing the rich.
Someday, the Post may get it right...
To: sakic
...Enron and WorldCom cooked their books because Clinton lied about oral sex...Enron & WorldCom are not the President of the US testifying under oath... how can you purport that punishing errant corporations is needed, but at the same time let Clinton walk? It is so much more clear that Bill Clinton was responsible for his own lying and cheating.
To: L,TOWM
People often flame when they can't address the issue at hand. Doesn't bother me. I find it to be a weakness to laugh at.
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:35:00 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: ChadGore
These "sins of the 90's" happened before the 90's.
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:35:47 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: sakic
firms like Arthur Andersen developed a strong incentive to overlook fraudulent bookkeeping. I understand Arthur Andersen was selected by the 1998 Congress (that would be, uh, under Klinton's watch) to do the accounting for one of the Government's departments (that, I'm sorry, I cannot recall at the moment). It was AFTER this that Cheney then selected Arthur Andersen as his accountants. Hmmm.....well, I guess Arthur Andersen's gross unethical accounting practices are still Bush's fault..... what a joke.
12
posted on
07/14/2002 8:37:10 AM PDT
by
nicmarlo
To: sakic
Exactly what is the issue at hand?
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:37:14 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: sakic
Interesting post. The author may go a little far in defending his thesis but I agree that corporate corrution predates Clinton and it is a bit too facile to blame Clinton for all of it.
The S&L stuff, for example predated Clinton.
To: LurkedLongEnough
Of course Clinton was responsible for his own lying and cheating. Everyone is. What does that have to do with the author's point about Keating, Boesky, and Milken?
Many here have blamed Clinton for things like Enron yet don't blame Reagan for Keating etc.
Bubba desrves the heat for many things. The problem is that too many like to blame him for everything including their own failures.
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:39:06 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: sakic
Wasn't Clinton trying to take credit for what was being called a good economy in the 90's? Since he tried to take credit when some people thought it was good, then he must take the blame now that we know it never really was good.
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:40:40 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: nicmarlo
The blame should be placed on Arthur Anderson, not Clinton. If your child does something wrong do you blame the sitting President? What happened to taking responsibility for one's own actions?
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:41:15 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: sakic
Clinton's legacies: Great 90's economy and Middle East peace.
18
posted on
07/14/2002 8:42:06 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: FITZ
All politicians take credit for everything and blame for nothing. That's the way it works.
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posted on
07/14/2002 8:42:33 AM PDT
by
sakic
To: nicmarlo
I understand Arthur Andersen was selected by the 1998 Congress (that would be, uh, under Klinton's watch)Selected by whom? You imply it was by the Republican Congress. Shall we now blame all the failings of the Republicans during the 90s on Clinton as well?
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