Posted on 07/10/2002 11:27:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is an unofficial quick and dirty presidential poll. Apparently, there is a good sized contingent on Free Republic that believes that President Bush is:
Please list the numbers that best match the reasons you don't like Bush (or state other reasons if not on the list) and state whether you believe that President Bush should be defeated even if it means installing a Democrat in the Whitehouse.
Conversely, if you believe President Bush should be re-elected, please state why.
Please state who you would like to see win the Presidency in 2004 and whether or not you believe he/she has a chance of winning.
Thanks,
Jim
The compassionate conservative posturing was what keep droves and droves of wishy-washing soccer moms from voting for Gore. Bush was able to get just enough to get elected. Who's vote did it lose? Maybe a few on the far right that voted for Buchanan. But, how many votes did Buchanan get? Less than 1%. As a pratical matter the plan worked. (I don't always agree with it.) Besides, what was he suppose to say, "my name is George Bush and I'm a mean angry conservative?"
Yeah, you were sold some Bush Administration spin.
Section 245 of the Immigration and Naturalization Code has a number of subsections which deal with folks in the predicament you describe.
Section 245(i) deals primarily with Illegals. Check out this thread...
AMNESTY by BUSH
The Truth About Section 245(i)BTW, did you know that the Egyptian LAX Shooter on July 4th was here on a Section 245(i) Amnesty?
You might also check out the links at #797 on this thread.
Not pretty.
There can never be TOO MANY legally resident, employed, lawful and fully self-sufficient and Mexican nationals committed to American acculturation There can never be TOO MANY self sufficient and lawful Americans of Mexican descent. It's a disgraceful concept in America.
Unlike some here, the American people take the measure of the "man" when they choose their President. They understand that character, judgement, honesty and wisdom are the defining traits of the person they entrust their future.
The American people have measured George W. Bush. They deem him honest, wise, judicicous and virtuous. They've seen allegations of Bush's dullness, and they have concluded that is false. Democrats cannot tar this man. Like Reagan, Bush cannot be portrayed as corrupt, mean spirited or dishonest. It doesn't compute with our citizens. He has the demeanor, moderate sensibilities and political style that Americans feel secure with. Bush has our proxy to lead this nation in peace and war. That trust will not fade, it's visceral in our citizenry.
The President isn't into vanity trips. He doesn't get off on martyr fantasies. Vetoing popular bills that carry veto-proof majorities is asinine, and Bush is not asinine. He leads a 50-50 Government. People who feign great betrayal or disillusionment with Bush's legislative calculations are either unsophisticates or blatant charlatans. Bush is wholly reactive in the political milieu of 2002. The Senate Democrats are the full commanders of legislative content and process.
The vocal opposition here to Bush is an opposition to our Constitutionally directed political system of compromise, negotiation, buffers and consensus. That's how people get along and achieve things in a community of disparate priorities. Some folks refuse to play with others.
Bush will govern differently if the GOP wins the Senate. He will govern differntly if the U.S. is enaging in a massive and bloody military conflict. He'll govern with wisdom, judgement, integrity and honor. As a Conservative, which HE IS.
As far as the extension of 245i and your assumption that it equals "Amnesty" is just another attempt to blame President Bush for the problems he has inherited. At this time I can not agree with your assumptions :-)
P.S. I consider you a gentleman and one of the more civil Bush Bashers here on FR, but you're not the reason for my post #831 :-) I didn't even include you in the "To" column. of #831 :-)
A vision of pursuing, identifying and deporting the millions of "Illegals" to whom they deny the Amnesty is a pure and laughable fantasy. Concluding that an immigrant group that is illegally resident, undocumented and unaccountable is preferable to the same group who has been legalized, identified, vetted and legitimized is sheer lunacy. They're not serious in their efforts. They won't acknowlede the real engine of massive illegal immigration from Mexico - the security of County welfare and entitlement largesse. Posting a link to 245i 8 times a day over 8 months hasn't changed anything. They influence no-one. They achieve nothing. Just self-indulgent Jibba Jabba.
The Republican Party is all but dead as far as representing conservatives. I don't care a thing about Socialist Party A or Socialist Party B, neither will ever represent me or the Constitution, so one of them can die off as far as I am concerned. I will write in the man that comes the closest to representing conservatism.
In Texas we elect Judges, so a Judge may be a liberal, but he will run as a Republican if he lives in a Republican district. It's the same with Bush, he has done more to hijack the Republican Party to the left than any one ever dared try before. I'll not reward him for his betrayal with another vote in 2004. That fact can be taken to the bank.
As Dubya would say... I think your homepage is "JUST RIGHT"
I really don't care how long you've been here. I'm not being fooled by any Washington scams. I'm just sick of all you Bush bashers. What, you would rather Gore be president?
By the way, you should learn some html skills. Your profile needs a lot of work.
Frankly, I don't give rat's ass what you think of my profile page.
BTW, shouldn't you be protesting somewhere to have marajuana legalized for people who have cronic pain?
Nope didn't go to Summerfest, I was camping/fishing up north. I wouldn't have gone anyway. I didn't go last year either. Humanity at it's finest...oh yeah lots of winners there! I'll wait for German Fest. It's a lot less crowed and a different crowd altogether (more family oriented).
SNL "The Company Computer Guy"! That is him!
P.S. I like your homepage, but don't tell the Libertarian I said so :-)
Boy, that's a winning plan - let's all vote for write-in candidates. That will surely move the country to the right. Why should I vote for any candidate actually running for office (you know with their name on the ballot and signs, advertisments, ect.)? I'll just write in my personal candidate for every office. Why didn't I think of that?
Your lib tendencies are showing, Arne, buddy.
Condi is pro-abortion.
If you think the Republican nominating electorate is going to nominate a pro-abortion candidate, you are demonstrating that you don't have a clue concerning the makeup of that electorate.
There are a couple of lines that were drawn in the sand long ago in our Party...one concerns the pro-life nature of our platform...the other is the pro-life status of our nominees for President and Vice-President.
If, by 2004, the 'moderates' have gained such complete control of the Party, that they are able to affect the crossing of those lines, then you can count on the fact that you will be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Republican coalition, and thereby the end of the Republican Party.
Without the pro-life movement, the GOP will be doomed, both by lack of numbers, and by the complete absence of a heart or a soul.
I have given the last decade of my life to the Republican cause, many times to my own great detriment. A multitude of others have done the same. If my Party walks away from respect for the sacred nature of human life, it will have walked away from me and from millions of others who, like me, consider abortion to be the central moral question of our day.
As unhappy as I have been on a great number of important issues...education, CFR, ag policy, SCR, the promotion by Rove and Co. of RINOs over conservatives in primary contests, etc., I have never abandoned the President or my party. I have continued to work every day against the Daschle Democrats. But there are limits on what I will put up with.
Certainly there are people here who criticize Bush on silly grounds...personality, smarts, typical DU stuff. There are people here who misunderstand some actions of the administration on certain policies because they are uninformed or simply enjoy being critical.
But there are a majority here who are generally very supportive of the President, especially against the evil Dems....while at the same time understanding fully the times when the leadership of the Republican Party has simply given away the political ground to our political enemies. We know the difference, and we are not fooled.
Personally, I'm growing sick and tired of the compromisers; those who are soft on abortion, the political hacks, the apologists for anything as long as it has a Republican label on the box.
In my book, any individual who gives aid and comfort to the abortionists and their trade in bodies and blood is a liberal, period. They can't be trusted with power if they are willing to compromise the lives of our unborn next generations.
What good is a Party that doesn't believe in the the one central core principle of our Republic...that our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are given by the Creator and are therefore unalienable?
Any politician who will compromise away the life af an innocent child will compromise on any and every other thing possible, if he or she thinks there is something to be gained by it.
Unintentionally, you have hit on the very issue that could drive me out of the GOP forever.
EV
Quit threatening to leave the GOP, just do it already! The tortured laments around here are getting to be annoying beyond measurement. But ... not a single one of you has the balls to organize and strategize even the simplest third party political campaign. All this bluster and bravado around this joint until something needs to be done by somebody ... else. Whimper and whine.
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