A Bush Hater's Poll

Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

This is an unofficial quick and dirty presidential poll. Apparently, there is a good sized contingent on Free Republic that believes that President Bush is:

1. Not conservative enough
2. Not pro-life
3. Is a gun-grabber
4. Is a federal power-grabber
5. Will appoint liberal judges
6. Is a globalist
7. Is in it just for oil
8. Is too soft on immigration
9. Is too soft (or too hard) on Israel
10. Is a crook
11. All of the above
12. None of the above
13. Other (you name it)

Please list the numbers that best match the reasons you don't like Bush (or state other reasons if not on the list) and state whether you believe that President Bush should be defeated even if it means installing a Democrat in the Whitehouse.

Conversely, if you believe President Bush should be re-elected, please state why.

Please state who you would like to see win the Presidency in 2004 and whether or not you believe he/she has a chance of winning.

Thanks,
Jim

[justshe]

And thanks to Lars Larsen the entire state of Oregon knows ALL about Queen Vera! (another Oregonian NOT in Portland)

[Texasforever]

The best man in the 2000 election didn't end up as President. He ended up as Vice-President

That's funny. Cheney did not seem to think so. But then again maybe he knew who the "better man" was. Seriously though, your post is a classic example of sour grapes without the grape.

[Sabertooth]

There are actions being taken right now in regard to border security. The Immigration reform bill was passed out of Congress with more money allocated to border patrol and in-country enforcement. The only thing not sent to the president was the 245i extension and so that is not in force anyway and Bush has not even mentioned it for months that I know of. That means that at least for now the “amnesty” issue is off the table.

Unless I'm mistaken, the last time I recall Bush mentioning it was when he signed the Homeland Defense bill and said he wished the extension of Section 245(i) had been left in it.

Bush said he was sorry Congress didn't include in the bill a measure that would have extended a deadline for giving hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants the chance to apply for residency without leaving the United States.
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Of course, who knows what the President said privately to Vicente Fox later that month in Monterrey, Mexico.

[Texasforever]

You may be right but that was quite a while ago. I think events have overtaken his earlier support and it is obvious that it does not have the support in the senate to pass it.

[Sabertooth]

Deb, many "true conservatives" here yearn to be Democrats ...

True... Some want full Amnesty for Illegals and no immigration caps. That's pretty much the definition of an open border.

[SoDak]

Nothing sour about it. I voted Bush. Jim asked for my opinion and I gave it. I admire Dick Cheney, what's wrong with that?

[FreeLibertarian]

Little Lady I've been here longer than you have. If you want to be taken to the cleaners by the crooks in Washington thats your business but I don't plan to be fooled by their scams.

By the way, you should learn some html skills. Your profile needs a lot of work.

[FreeLibertarian]

I don't know yet.

[Texasforever]

Nothing sour about it. I voted Bush. Jim asked for my opinion and I gave it. I admire Dick Cheney, what's wrong with that?

I also admire Cheney, I used to work for him. However he would disagree with you that he should have been president. A man like Dick Cheney does not play second banana easily. I trust his judgment on GW.

[Sabertooth]

You may be right but that was quite a while ago. I think events have overtaken his earlier support and it is obvious that it does not have the support in the senate to pass it.

We shall see. Bush's blind spot on Illegals is longstanding, and I don't see the setback this spring as anything more than a disappointing inconvenience to him.

I fully expect the President to try again for regularization/normalization/Amnesty following the November Elections... and I expect that will be a very nasty battle.

Lotsa #8s on this thread, have you noticed? And I can say honestly, most of them are from folks I've never seen on Illegal Alien threads.

The immigration tar-baby is bad mojo for Dubya.

[voa-davidk]

Dear Jim , May Godbless you and keep you sir .

My beef with Pres.Bush is that he coddles the illegal aliens for votes , at our expense. One can do a long essay on the dammage this has done to Calif. and our country.

I like him as a person , his all American - good guy manner , but as a Californian and a Reagan Conservative Republican ,I know all too well the damage coddling ilegal aliens for votes . -from Reagan Republican Dave 7/11/02

[justshe]

The people on the Right are the biggest bunch of cry-baby, fainting wimps that can be imagined. You need to change your name. You're no "Conservative". Reagan would spit you out of his mouth.

ROFL! Great analysis, imo.

[afuturegovernor]

Tancredo, but the Republican Party will never run him, so I guess I will.

Doesn't a candidate have to run himself?

[Texasforever]

By the way, you should learn some html skills. Your profile needs a lot of work.

Geeze what a geek. I'll just bet you wear a pocket protector.

[PRND21]

My beef with Pres.Bush is that he coddles the illegal aliens for votes , at our expense. One can do a long essay on the dammage this has done to Calif. and our country.

-from Reagan Republican Dave 7/11/02

How'd you feel about Reagan's Amnesty and "Give us your tired..." speech?

[Registered]

I'll just bet you wear a pocket protector.

Only engineers wear those....

[Texasforever]

By the way, you should learn some html skills. Your profile needs a lot of work.

Come on fess up this is you right?

[PRND21]

The immigration tar-baby is bad mojo for Dubya.

Really?

[justshe]

Am I mistaken in thinking that the reason Bush proposed the extended deadline was because applications for extensions had been made by many of these immigrants (here legally on short term visas)...and the only reason they were considered 'illegal' was because the INS had such a back-log, the applications were not processed in a timely manner. Because the applications were not processed, and the short term visas expired, they became 'illegal', and people were going to be forced to return to their country of origin and re-apply.....start all over again.

[ArneFufkin]

Tooth, I think I've made my take clear. Welfare is the problem, first and last. Terminate welfare and taxpayer entitlements for legally resident Foreign Nationals ... the problem of illegal immigration goes away. Design an easy system for FNs to legally move across the border to love their families ... their families will stay in Mexico until the father or his community can support their life needs here.

Amnesty? It's a tool. No other offer would motivate the undocumented to "check in" and be counted.They're here already, this is not a rhetorical debate. We need to get the millions of illegals here systmatically identified and documented. Whether it's 3, 5, 8 or 12 million. That's an irrelevance. If 4 of the 8 million newly legal and recorded FNs are capable of filling jobs in the U.S. - 4 million will work here. If all 8 million are prohitited from taxpayer entitlements, 4 million will likely head back to Mexico. We make a very crisp process for our family men to visit their loved ones in their homeland.

If you take away taxpayer benefits, the non skilled and non productive will leave the country. A 28 year old roofer will send his family home where his friends and family can support their needs and he can earn a lifegiving income in Tucson. If a Mexican community in Tuscon wishes to sponsor families - then they need to financially support them in all needs. Let's make the process easy for those who will present NO burden to the greater community.

I don't recongnnize the concept of immigration "caps". There's no "capacity" here in the United States of America. If jobs are available for foreign nationals, foreign nationals will move to the U.S. and work those jobs. I want them here on the up and up. If there is enough capital in a community to support the life needs of a newly arrived immigrant family ... let's get them processed into here smoothly and quickly.

Mexicans, as a whole, want to be Mexicans. They want to live in Mexico among their family and friends if similar economic benefit can be retained.

If a ban on welfare provisions to visiting Foreign Nationals accompanied the Amnesty, the Amnesty would be empty. "I'm legal, but I can't eat!" Those folks go home in the absence of taxpayer largesse. Let's help them home humanely and safely. Let's commit to easy access for our visitng workers to be with his family on weekends.

If jobs are scarce, and Taxpayer largesse is unattainable, Immigrants who cannot fill jobs here will go home. It's so damn clear to me.