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SELLING HOMOSEXUALITY
Boundless (a Webzine) ^ | 7/10/02 | Matt Kaufman

Posted on 07/10/2002 7:19:19 AM PDT by DoctorMichael

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Rondeau's most compelling evidence comes straight from the people who designed the gay PR campaign: Harvard-trained social scientists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, who in the late ‘80s issued a call for gay activists to adopt "carefully calculated public relations propaganda."

Their strategy came dressed up in marketing jargon: “Desensitize, jam and convert.” As it turns out, though, you could use one word to summarize all those others: manipulation.

Go to this link..........http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/lawreview/issues/v14n2.html..............for some really long and involved articles on this subject.

1 posted on 07/10/2002 7:19:19 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: DoctorMichael
"To this end, “famous historical figures are considered especially useful to us;” not only do they bring prestige, they’re also “invariably dead as a doornail, hence in no position to deny the truth and sue for libel."

The latest victim of this is Father Mykal Judge, the FDNY Chief Chaplin killed at the WTC on 9/11. A homosexual he tried to help has been going around everywhere claiming Father Judge was a homosexual. Untrue, but the media never tells us this.

2 posted on 07/10/2002 7:30:06 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: DoctorMichael
Here's your LINK.
3 posted on 07/10/2002 7:34:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Kermit
..........claiming Father Judge was a homosexual........

...........an opportune target..........the dead cannot defend themselves.

4 posted on 07/10/2002 7:35:25 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks!
5 posted on 07/10/2002 7:37:41 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: DoctorMichael; Buffalo Bob
I am really tied up now-- BB, do you have some relevant links handy?
6 posted on 07/10/2002 7:41:20 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: DoctorMichael
Film director Steven Mendes very skillfully employed the tactics suggested by Kirk and Madsen when making the Oscar-winning film American Beauty. The only normal people in the film were the gay couple next door, and typical middle-class Americans were portrayed as being depraved evildoers.

Black is white; up is down; evil is good; wrong is right.

7 posted on 07/10/2002 8:48:01 AM PDT by beckett
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..........Film director Steven Mendes........the Oscar-winning film American Beauty...........

I remember shocking some friends at a polite dinner party who asked me what I thought of the movie (BTW: They thought it was very 'cutting edge') when I replied................

That I "feel that a movie made by a homosexual British writer/director whose point was to lampoon America's middle heterosexual class had very little to offer me as far as valid criticism and insight into the current state of U.S. affairs".

Needless to say, a few jaws dropped and the conversation was changed very quickly.

8 posted on 07/10/2002 9:04:05 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: DoctorMichael
Time for the "Religious Right" to produce ads featuring Barney Fwank promoting homosexuality. That would be enough to turn anybody off to it!
9 posted on 07/10/2002 9:08:28 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: beckett
Film director Steven Mendes very skillfully employed the tactics suggested by Kirk and Madsen when making the Oscar-winning film American Beauty. The only normal people in the film were the gay couple next door, and typical middle-class Americans were portrayed as being depraved evildoers.

I have heard several people say this, but I do not agree. First, the queer neighbors were very minor characters in the story. They were basically used to communicate the marine dad's "feelings" to the audience. And note, it does turn out that the marine is a "repressive queer" or whatever, and is not the slightest bit normal. In addition, Kevin Spacey's chracter was not protrayed as a "depraved evildoer". He was just someone(like many Americans) who one day realizes he has done nothing over the past 15 years of his life and finally "wakes up".

10 posted on 07/10/2002 9:10:09 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: DoctorMichael
Its been pretty effective. Most people don't even know homosexuality and AIDS are intimately related. And the gays that are portrayed look like attractive and charming people. Its hard to argue someone shouldn't be allowed to pursue their chosen sexual preference, even when its clearly detrimental to their health, not to mention to their life. That's not the issue. All the homosexual PR has brilliantly succeeded in doing is in making straights feel uncomfortable with defending the virtue of normal sexual conduct. And any one who does so runs the risk of hurting gays' feelings. Homosexuals and Lesbians have certainly come a long way from the days when they were simply the subject of whisper in polite society.
11 posted on 07/10/2002 9:12:17 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: DoctorMichael
I suppose that if I suggested that homosexuals should be in prison then they would call me a Nazi or something? Tell me it's not true. Geeee I've never noticed < /sarcasm>
12 posted on 07/10/2002 9:15:19 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: DoctorMichael
Ih by the way.... Homosexuals belong in prison.
13 posted on 07/10/2002 9:16:00 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: DoctorMichael; beckett
American Beauty could very well be the most immoral movie of all time. It's portrayal of all that is ugly as "beautiful" should shock anyone with even the most attenuated conscience.
14 posted on 07/10/2002 9:18:43 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: bourbon
Yeah but its also a perfect portrait of the Age Of Clinton.
15 posted on 07/10/2002 9:20:00 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
good point. I sure hope we have left that age behind, but I have serious doubts.
16 posted on 07/10/2002 9:22:22 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: DoctorMichael
That I "feel that a movie made by a homosexual British writer/director whose point was to lampoon America's middle heterosexual class had very little to offer me as far as valid criticism and insight into the current state of U.S. affairs".

Sir, with all due respect, I believe either you saw a different "American Beauty" than most people, or that idea was put in your head before you saw the movie. Let me explain my POV.

The marine dad was obviously a "repressive queer". He knew his "homosexual feelings" were wrong, and had spent his entire life being the most "manly man" he could be to hide and supress his feelings. He was ashamed and had been tormented all his life by the feelings(hence his attitude twoards his son when he thought he might be queer). Then finally, when he expressed his feelings to someone(Spacey), who he had misunderstood, he was so ashamed he killed him.

Secondly, everyone in the film was outwardly accepting of the two queer neighbor guys - except the marine dad who we later find out about. So to say the film was some sort of "lampoon" on the "heterosexual middle class" is quite funny to me. Its almost as if you watched the film hoping to see come away with that impression. If there had been more queers in the film, who were protrayed as "normal", then youy may have a valid point. But the two queers were really incidental characters - only there to convey the marine dad's feelings to teh audience.

17 posted on 07/10/2002 9:23:28 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: DoctorMichael

18 posted on 07/10/2002 9:26:45 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: FreeTally
You bought into the construction of reality that Mendes is selling, and, it appears, you are unaware of it.

Mendes' very subtle, even somewhat subliminal, techniques were consciously designed to undermine and mock the very idea that psychological norms exist and are worthy of emulation and adherence. The Marine colonel is a caricature --- not a character that one finds in real life. The hardass colonel represents homophobia, a nonsense word whose etymology is purely political. As an actual, diagnosable psychological syndrome, it doesn't exist. Violence springs from homophobia in Mendes' construct, for all heterosexual men fear hidden homosexual urges, and they lash out rather than face the truth. Sexual ambivalence and bisexuality are universal and their denial is the source of the rotten core at the heart of every American middle-class family. For Mendes, only homosexuals possess true authenticity.

If this message is unclear to you, Mendes has done his job well. He meant to confuse the message, and, as I say, deliver it subliminally.

19 posted on 07/10/2002 10:22:33 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Antoninus
poor PINGUS
20 posted on 07/10/2002 10:22:55 AM PDT by Claud
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