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Canadian sniper makes record shot
Canadian Press via Globe and Mail (Toronto) ^ | July 9, 2002 | Stephen Thorne

Posted on 07/09/2002 7:37:02 PM PDT by Clive

A world-record shot by a Canadian sniper detachment could never have been made with the ammunition they were issued when they left Edmonton last winter, the triggerman said in a recent interview.

The Canadian .50-calibre rounds have a maximum range of between 2,200 and 2,300 metres. The U.S. rounds, they discovered, "fly farther, faster," said Cpl. "Bill", a 26-year-old native of Fogo Island, Nfld.

The two-man Canadian team, coupled with American Sgt. Zevon Durham of Greenville, S.C., made the kill from 2,430 metres on the second shot.

The first blew a bag from the hand of their target, an al-Qaeda fighter walking on a road.

"He didn't even flinch," said Bill, who spoke to The Canadian Press on condition that his real name not be used.

"We made a correction and the next round hit exactly where we wanted it to. Well, a bit to the right."

The kill, one of more than 20 unofficially accredited to Canadian snipers during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan's Shah-i-Kot Valley, beat the 35-year-old record of 2,500 yards, or 2,250 metres, set by U.S. Marine Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock in Duc Pho, South Vietnam.

Soldier of Fortune magazine estimated the number of kills made by the Canadians after talking to several U.S. soldiers in Kandahar for a cover story in its August edition.

The snipers themselves will not confirm the figure.

But judging from accounts given by Canadians involved in the first major coalition offensive of the Afghan war, the figure of at least 20 sounds conservative.

Outfitted with British desert fatigues and an array of equipment from all over the world, the five Canadians divided into two detachments earned the respect of their American brothers-in-arms after helping rescue dozens of paratroopers pinned down by enemy fire.

The five have been nominated for one of the highest awards given by the United States military - the Bronze Star, two of them with Vs for Valor, marking exceptional bravery.

Awarding of the American medal, which was to have been done at a ceremony along with other Anaconda veterans in Kandahar in April, has been delayed by Canadian protocol officials.

But more important to the Canadians are the gestures from their American brethren who, while nearly killing them several times over with friendly fire, owe many lives to their shooting skills.

"They trusted us to do our job, without question," said Master Cpl. "James", a 31-year-old native of Kingsville, Ont., who also asked that his identity not be revealed.

At one point during a series of battles, one of the Canadians was without his rifle. Enemy bullets were hitting the earth all around.

Mortars were dropping in front and behind them, some within 10 metres, bracketing their position and getting closer all the time.

"They really hammered us," said Bill.

He tried to get to their rifles but couldn't. Finally, an American sniper tossed him his rifle and said: "Here, you know how to use this better than I do."

They held off the enemy until darkness descended and they escaped.

"They were instrumental in helping us achieve our goals out there," said 1st Lieut. Justin Overbaugh, 25, of Missoula, Mont., the soldier who recommended Bill and James for Bronze Stars.

"They are professionals; they are very good at what they do; they train hard, they are very mature, they are tactically and technically proficient so when it came time to do business, they were on," he said.

"If they told me I was going out right now, I'd be begging, kicking, screaming, crying for them to come with us."

Bill and James said they pulled off several shots from 2,400 metres or more.

"Shots out that far are 60 per cent skill and 40 per cent luck, or vice versa," said Bill. "Usually, it takes two or three rounds, sometimes five.

"Normally, a sniper wouldn't take that many shots, but they were out so far we felt confident they couldn't tell where we were."

At daybreak one morning, the two Canadians were set up overlooking a compound when al-Qaeda fighters started "pouring out of buildings like ants."

Bill started shooting while James called in a mortar attack, followed by B-52, F-16 and Apache helicopter strikes.

In a separate incident, Bill and James found themselves looking up at a large dark object screaming out of the sky directly above them.

It was a 220-kilogram American bomb.

"We hit the deck and covered our heads with our hands," said James.

The bomb landed 30 metres away, nose in, and never went off.

Bill and James looked at each other in disbelief.

"By the grace of God, it was a dud," said Bill. "It landed 15 metres from the B company (U.S. 101st Airborne Division) trenches. A guy got up, walked out of the trench and kicked the thing."

On another occasion, an Apache fired a missile right over their heads. It slammed into a rock wall 200 metres behind them. The snipers took it all in stride.

"Unless you have walked in their shoes or been part of a Special Forces unit, you cannot understand the closeness in proximity that a sniper is to the enemy," said Capt. Paul Madej, Operation Enduring Freedom chaplain, who debriefed the Canadians.

"The Canadian snipers are professional, well-trained soldiers who walk into harm's way and fulfilled their mission. They represent the best and they have our respect."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; banglist; southasialist; warlist
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Vexing that the liberal Minister of Defence has not yet approved the acceptance of the Bronze Stars.

It took 5 years before 3 Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry were allowed to wear the ribbon for the US Presidential Unit Citation that it earned at Kap'Yong in 1951.

And it took 9 years to award Canadian bravery medals for an action in the Balkans on a so-called "peace keeping" job.

1 posted on 07/09/2002 7:37:02 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Great Dane; liliana; Alberta's Child; Entropy Squared; Rightwing Canuck; Loyalist; canuckwest; ...
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2 posted on 07/09/2002 7:37:35 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
wow. that's some shot.
3 posted on 07/09/2002 7:42:33 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Clive
Snipers: Plenty

Queda Dogs: 0

Bureaucrat Incompetance: 100% Give our guys their due...
4 posted on 07/09/2002 7:42:51 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Clive
Good shooting!
5 posted on 07/09/2002 7:46:07 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Clive
Ask the Govenor General and her footman to attend and the medals will get handed out faster than a speeding locomotive. Or was that a speeding bullet?
6 posted on 07/09/2002 7:48:35 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Travis McGee; harpseal; Squantos; Chapita
Finally, an American sniper tossed him his rifle and said: "Here, you know how to use this better than I do."

No comment.

7 posted on 07/09/2002 7:50:21 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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Vexing that the liberal Minister of Defence has not yet approved the acceptance of the Bronze Stars.

Well, I'm sure it'll still be available to them once the red tape is cleared.

But it sounds as though you need to improve the 50 cal. ammo your guys normally use as well.

Anyway, congratulations are in order!!!

Kudos for a job well done!

8 posted on 07/09/2002 7:53:41 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Clive
"The Canadian snipers are professional, well-trained soldiers who walk into harm's way and fulfilled their mission. They represent the best and they have our respect."

Rah...Rah... for our Canadian brothers in arms!!!!!!!!

9 posted on 07/09/2002 7:54:00 PM PDT by monday
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To: Clive
Hathcock's record finally falls. I wasn't sure he would ever be beat. I would have preferred it fall to another Marine but such is life.
10 posted on 07/09/2002 7:55:47 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Conservative til I die
wow. that's some shot.

2,430 meters = a mile and a half.

11 posted on 07/09/2002 7:59:27 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Clive
No, no, no. We do not have "snipers," nor do our friends and brothers-in-arms.

The dirty nasty dung-eating woggies and their communist friends have snipers. We have "Advanced Marksmen."
12 posted on 07/09/2002 8:02:46 PM PDT by MindBender26
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13 posted on 07/09/2002 8:02:58 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Bet his quantity record still stands.
14 posted on 07/09/2002 8:03:25 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: Clive
Hate to put a damper on this, but the Gunny's shot was don with your run of the mill M-2 using standard ammo.

These guys were using souped up weapons and ammo.

Like scoring home run records using aluminum bats.

Besides it took two shots, what happened to one shot one kill?

15 posted on 07/09/2002 8:07:34 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: john in missouri; Tennessee_Bob; Jeff Head
WOW!
16 posted on 07/09/2002 8:09:53 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: dts32041
Maybe the first round was to get the target moving. A moving target is more sporting. These are Canadians after all.

Molon Labe!

17 posted on 07/09/2002 8:17:09 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Clive
And it took 9 years to award Canadian bravery medals for an action in the Balkans on a so-called "peace keeping" job.

I read recently that it took over 20 years for some Canadian unit to be allowed to wear an American decoration won in Korea. Damn shame that good men have to wait that long because of some bureaucrat. But congrats all the way around on their good shooting.

What I can't figure out is how that raghead could have waited around for the second shot, after the first one hit something he was carrying. Must have been stoned or stupid.

18 posted on 07/09/2002 8:19:05 PM PDT by 300winmag
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To: john in missouri
They can really reach out and touch someone.
19 posted on 07/09/2002 8:22:06 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: 300winmag
It was Allah's will.
20 posted on 07/09/2002 8:23:37 PM PDT by dts32041
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