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The 'right thing' tears at a family
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 8, 2002 | Chris McGann

Posted on 07/09/2002 12:48:48 AM PDT by Alan Chapman

Trever Palmer, 17, says he felt nervous and slightly heroic the night he picked up the phone, dialed 911 and informed the King County Sheriff's Office that his father was growing marijuana.

Minutes later, when Aaron Palmer, a Covington computer programmer, returned home from an evening of swimming laps at the local pool, deputies arrested him. They later found more than a dozen marijuana plants growing in a hidden room in the garage and booked the single father of three into the King County Jail on drug charges.

Two months later, as Trever Palmer prepares for his last year of high school, the 140-pound wrestler is still grappling with the consequences of his actions and talked about them in an interview yesterday.

Although police lauded him for doing the right thing, he says half his relatives are mad at him. He's "found out who my friends really are" while trying to avoid Kentwood High School classmates who scorned him, calling him "a weasel" and names much worse than that.

Palmer made the 911 call largely because of a lesson he learned in a Junior ROTC ethics course: "Stand up for what you believe in, don't follow the crowd and be your own person."

He still thinks he did the right thing.

"I felt like I was saving my sister and brother from this guy," he said. "You can only put up with so much."

But his family is torn apart, and his 15-year-old sister may not see the 911 call as such a brave act.

The night her father was taken away, "she really didn't speak much to me," Palmer said. "She was crying and trying to get her stuff together."

Today, she "just kind of avoids me," he said.

Palmer said his 7-year-old brother didn't know what was going on.

Palmer, who is spending part of the summer with his grandparents in Pennsylvania, plans to live with his best friend's family until he graduates and joins the Air Force. His sister and brother are staying with a cousin. Their mother, who is divorced from their father, is unemployed and "doesn't have room for them in her apartment," Palmer said.

Palmer's sister could not be reached last night, and Palmer's father did not return phone calls. Aaron Palmer, 38, was released on $5,000 bail shortly after his arrest and pleaded not guilty last week to a felony charge of drug manufacturing, the South County Journal reported. He faces up to five years in prison.

The boy said many of his relatives can't comprehend his motives for calling police.

"It sucks," Palmer said last night. "I was really hoping that they would understand. It's kind of like that hole in (me) that needs to be filled."

He has tried to explain himself to his father's parents, who "kind of understand, but they are upset."

When he called police, he said, he wasn't considering what would happen to his family. "I kind of figured that would fall into place."

What went through his mind?

"I thought: no guts, no glory," he said.

He thought marijuana growing was taking over his father's life. Instead of spending time doing things with the family, his father tended to his plants -- moving the pots around and watering. He said that on two occasions, people visited the house on account of the marijuana.

Living around drugs is "the part that no kid should have to go through, and I didn't want (my younger brother) to go through it."

There were other conflicts. He thought his father paid attention to his sister's accomplishments, while ignoring his own. And he thought his ROTC courses, which were based on Marine Corps leadership training, put him at odds with his ex-Army father "on different military perspectives."

The "stand-up" message from his ROTC course echoed in his head.

"That set it straight, why I should do it," Palmer said. "For one thing, it's illegal."

He said another factor was the emotions stirred by reading "The Red Badge of Courage" for an English class. He said he was impressed by how a character in the book, a soldier named Nick, discovered his own bravery.

"He stood up for what he believed in," Palmer said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
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To: pubmom; trussell
I think your former boss goofed, the way I read the law, the kids were permitted to drink with parental permission but must do so only on their own private property. Unless those folks owned the pizza place, they were in violation.

pubmom, thanks for catching this, I didn't.

trussel, you were wrong, you owe me an apology retraction.

141 posted on 07/09/2002 11:40:10 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Alan Chapman
This father was wrong, plain and simple. If you are raising children, you don't raise pot plants in the house at the same time. You have an obligation to protect those children, and having a garden in the garage isn't the way to go. The father would have been found out sooner or later. Would he have liked it if the cops did a raid and busted down his door and trained their guns on his 7 year old while he was playing video games ? Or someone who found out about the garden and decided to do a home invasion ? What about the trauma to the boy then ? The 17 year old was just protecting his little brother. The fact that the man's own parents are defending him just proves that the whole family is dysfunctional with a capital D. I'm no saint, but I sure ain't stupid enough to have a pot garden in my garage while my kids are living on the other side of the door. That's just ignorant.
142 posted on 07/09/2002 11:42:21 AM PDT by Rainmist
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To: ThomasJefferson
I have answered your question twice. Yes, I would report my own children for trafficing, growing, smoking, selling, abusing- drugs.

I would hope to be able to avoid that by being a responsible role model for them, but if not, I would call the police or take them to the station myself.

I believe if you want your child to be a law abiding, responsible, productive citizen of the United States, you have to show them you believe in those same laws. If you dont believe in the laws, do something to try to change it. But if you want the rights of citizenship, you have to obey the responsibilities of the same.
143 posted on 07/09/2002 11:42:45 AM PDT by trussell
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To: KantianBurke
If you think a law is unjust then work within our representative form of government to change it rather than bitching and moaning every time some schmuck is brought up on charges of selling dope to minors or using it himself.

What you call bitching and moaning is working within our representative government. It is trying to convince fellow citizens to put ballot pressure on the representatives to change it. Think about it.

144 posted on 07/09/2002 11:43:14 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: tomakaze
Oh, and where would he go? Do you know how expensive apartments are these days? Around here it's horrific! Living on your own is admirable and expensive. Maybe the child had one of those Burger King jobs where you get little money and no coverage for insurance, etc. His decision wasn't an easy one. You don't know the circumstances.
145 posted on 07/09/2002 11:46:30 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: trussell; goldstategop
The family should be proud of this boy instead of ridiculing him.

Meth, molestation, yeah, but POT??? C'mon, get real. Above it says, the kid said people visited the house on TWO different occasions because they wanted to toke up. TWO!!! OMIGAWD!!! THOSE POOR CHILDREN!!! This kid ain't worried about drugs or brother or any of that stuff, he's p!ssed at his old man for something or other (divorce?) and is getting back at him by stabbing him in the back.

146 posted on 07/09/2002 11:46:33 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: Marysecretary
Did you ever think that perhaps he had been telling him to quit for years and the situation just kept getting worse? We don't have the facts here, only supposition.

If he did warn his father, fine and dandy. But I am responding to the facts in the article. If he sucker-punched his dad like this, he's a groveling, gutless, jealous, back-biting little Judas.

147 posted on 07/09/2002 11:47:01 AM PDT by Anamensis
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To: ThomasJefferson
I'm already forgiven, Thomas Jefferson. The kid did the right thing, period.
148 posted on 07/09/2002 11:47:52 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: trussell
Yes, I would report my own children for trafficing, growing, smoking, selling, abusing- drugs.

And tobacco, and beer, etc.

Be sure to tell your children right now that you are going to turn them over to the police and have them sent to prison for breaking any laws.

Not that you care what I think, but I find you to be despicable. Any parent who would turn his child in to the government is beyond help.

Your child will certainly thank you as they are gang raped by large evil men. You should be made to watch it happen.

149 posted on 07/09/2002 11:48:21 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Marysecretary
The kid did the right thing, period.

The kid was a swine, period. Lenin and Hitler would have been proud of him.

WWJD?

150 posted on 07/09/2002 11:50:17 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Anamensis
Articles can be wrong and not too reliable. I'd still cut the kid some slack because nobody knows what the truth is.
151 posted on 07/09/2002 11:52:44 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Marysecretary
I'd still cut the kid some slack because nobody knows what the truth is.

Kinda like the slack you cut the father?

152 posted on 07/09/2002 11:54:12 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
I would handle the situation myself the first time. If he continually did it, I would feel I'd have to turn him in for HIS good. I know you disagree with that but tough love is better than letting the child ruin his life with drugs.
153 posted on 07/09/2002 11:56:19 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Alan Chapman
To me this is not about what the kid did. A responsible parent would not put his children in a position where they had to make such wrenching moral/ethical decisions between law and family.
154 posted on 07/09/2002 11:56:42 AM PDT by Magnum44
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To: trussell
I have answered your question twice. Yes, I would report my own children for trafficing, growing, smoking, selling, abusing- drugs.

You would actualy send your kids to a rape camp. Personally I would never narc on my kid(s) It would not be worth it, no matter what the crime, I have caught my children drinking, should I drag their butts down to the police station? No I handle it like a real parent would, I talked to them, made them understand that circumstances they have put themselves in, and the potential impacts it would have on their lives. but they are 15 and 17 and they listen to me. Even though at 18 I could legally buy all the beer I could drink, talk about hypocrisy.
155 posted on 07/09/2002 11:56:58 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: ThomasJefferson
I have 1 daughter and 1 son. My "children" would not be raped by large evil men.

If my children are worried about going to jail, then they better not break the law.

My daughter is 7 and knows how I feel about drugs. She already knows I will turn her in if she is caught with them.

There is also the option of treatment centers.

You have a one track mind. In my opinion you are the despicable one. You would condone your children or parents being active in drugs. That doesn't speak much for your contribution to a better America.
156 posted on 07/09/2002 11:59:10 AM PDT by trussell
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To: ThomasJefferson
The tone and attitudes that some libertarians take on these threads regarding drug legalization is sometimes counter-productive to their goals if you get my drift. Irrespective of the usage or lack thereof of legal precedent, law enforcement and logic.
157 posted on 07/09/2002 12:01:29 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: Marysecretary
From the story.

"I thought: no guts, no glory," he said.
Bold mine

There were other conflicts. He thought his father paid attention to his sister's accomplishments, while ignoring his own.
Bold mine

And he thought his ROTC courses, which were based on Marine Corps leadership training, put him at odds with his ex-Army father "on different military perspectives."

He said another factor was the emotions stirred by reading "The Red Badge of Courage" for an English class. He said he was impressed by how a character in the book, a soldier named Nick, discovered his own bravery.

It's fairly obvious that the kid did his own father in, for his own reasons. To all but you I guess.

158 posted on 07/09/2002 12:01:47 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: KantianBurke
The tone and attitudes that some libertarians take on these threads regarding drug legalization is sometimes counter-productive to their goals if you get my drift.

No I don't, why not explain it specifically?

159 posted on 07/09/2002 12:03:24 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Alan Chapman
Amazing! A kid with morals raised by streetfilth!
160 posted on 07/09/2002 12:06:05 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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