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Family Planning [daughter coerced into murdering grandchild]
The Old Gray Lady [The NY Times] ^ | "The author's name has been withheld."

Posted on 07/06/2002 11:07:57 AM PDT by SlickWillard

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My daughter's friends, her sister, her sister's friends all counseled against having the baby, but she wouldn't listen. We decided to stage an intervention. When my daughter came into the living room, there were 15 women waiting for her, including four mothers. They asked me to leave; I listened from the kitchen, and though I couldn't hear anything other than sobs and laughter, I could feel the gravity. But when it was over, she still hadn't decided.

15 women who will burn in hell for all eternity.

1 posted on 07/06/2002 11:07:57 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: JMJ333
Another tragic bump.

2 posted on 07/06/2002 11:08:42 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard
Did she have one or not? Maybe Im missing something.
3 posted on 07/06/2002 11:12:42 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: SlickWillard
15 women who will burn in hell for all eternity.

And here I was thinking that Christ forgave.

4 posted on 07/06/2002 11:14:10 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: SlickWillard
I believe in redemption, even for heinous crimes. It depends on the will and intent of the individual. Certainly Christ forgives murder as St. Paul [formerly Saul] had been torturing and murdering Christians, and was on his way to Damascus to continue with his persecution, when his heart was changed. Prayer is our weapon of conversion for these poor lost souls.
5 posted on 07/06/2002 11:17:47 AM PDT by JMJ333
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It's amazing how many people who don't know the meaning of the word ADOPTION. It is either keep the baby or kill it. What is even more amazing is the fact that the author of this screed thought this was all something of which to be proud.
6 posted on 07/06/2002 11:18:02 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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fyi
7 posted on 07/06/2002 11:19:25 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: SlickWillard
What a sad story. This idiot family really messed up this young lady for life. As I read through this I kept wondering when it would be that the family would wise up and realize that their own selfish motives were not a 'reason' to slice up a beautiful person of God. I guess I was wrong, sadly.

These 'believers' are not Christians. They have not idea what it means to be a Christian. "Bible Belt"...They will get their just rewards and wish for eternity that they had not been so concerned about themselves. "Hard Labor". Yeah, right. Watching a young child grow and experience a beautiful world that God has given us....but that some were to selfish to share. I am disgusted.

What a sad story....but what a police officer!
8 posted on 07/06/2002 11:21:12 AM PDT by griffin
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"The author's name has been withheld."

UH HUH ok

9 posted on 07/06/2002 11:22:53 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Tennessee_Bob
"And here I was thinking that Christ forgave"

Christ forgives his elect....those who come to Him and accept Him. I see no evidence of that in these people yet, but there might still be time for them. By their fruit you will know them.

10 posted on 07/06/2002 11:23:18 AM PDT by griffin
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Unbelievable...yet not. How sad our society has become. We complain about children killing children, then turn around and encourage the same - our own flesh and blood, no less.

"I set before you blessing and cursings, life and death; therefore choose life that your children may live." - God


11 posted on 07/06/2002 11:24:12 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Christianity isn't an elitist religion. Anyone can come to redemption and salvation, and lost souls are brought to conversion through the prayer of others. In fact, it is the moral obligation of the faithful Christian to pray for these people so that they too may open their hearts to God.
12 posted on 07/06/2002 11:26:24 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: anniegetyourgun
Beautiful picture!
13 posted on 07/06/2002 11:28:43 AM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: SlickWillard
Adoption? No way! Why should anyone have any consequence for their actions?

14 posted on 07/06/2002 11:31:58 AM PDT by The Brush
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"I believe in redemption, even for heinous crimes. It depends on the will and intent of the individual. "

Are you saying that Christ's forgiveness depends on what the person was thinking at the time a sin was committed? That is not scriptural.

It is very clear we are saved by the Lord's Grace and His Grace alone. Period. We are all sinners. If we have committed one sin in the most minute fashion, we are as guilty as if we had sinned copiously.

What a person must do to receive forgiveness is accept Christ as their savior and REPENT. Repent means giving up your sins and following Christ. That does not mean you won't sine again; you will. What it does mean is that Christ, and following the Lord, become top priority in your life and living to be like Christ, as a servant of God, is the aim. We do this through study of Scripture to learn the true character of God and applying what we learn to life.

Like it or not, that is the only way.

15 posted on 07/06/2002 11:32:09 AM PDT by griffin
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To: SlickWillard
How come the word "adoption" doesn't even exist anymore?????
16 posted on 07/06/2002 11:33:09 AM PDT by stands2reason
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Seems to me that they shouldn't have had some loon in their house speaking curses over their children.
17 posted on 07/06/2002 11:33:51 AM PDT by pdlglm
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To: Tennessee_Bob
15 women who will burn in hell for all eternity.

And here I was thinking that Christ forgave

The sign of Christ's forgiveness received is, by definition, repentence.

Fascinating that the writer of the piece thought 18 years raising a child was both "hard labor" AND worth more than a human life. What a selfish evil attitude.

18 posted on 07/06/2002 11:34:59 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: SlickWillard
bttt

Happy Birthday Mr.President!

Don't miss this one.

19 posted on 07/06/2002 11:37:47 AM PDT by lodwick
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Are you saying that Christ's forgiveness depends on what the person was thinking at the time a sin was committed? That is not scriptural.

No, I am saying that no one is "elect." Anyone can attain salvation upon true and sincere repentance, even those who commit heinous crime. The notion that some are not elect is an invention of the late fifteen hundreds, and opposes the previous 1500 years of Christian doctrine and theology.

And grace for lost souls is brought about by the prayer of the faithful.

20 posted on 07/06/2002 11:39:25 AM PDT by JMJ333
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