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We really need to deal with the Saudi's....
1 posted on 07/04/2002 10:30:22 AM PDT by habaes corpussel
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To: habaes corpussel
VIP.

See: [Arab] Businessmen hit out at US move to target Saudis, Arab News, July 1, 2002, by Dhafir Al-Julfan (posted by SJackson).

2 posted on 07/04/2002 10:39:33 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: habaes corpussel
We can do without their oil, as we can develop our own sources (if we had the will) and with Russia.

But even if we do the above, I doubt we will ever deal with that terrorist state, as they have such an enormous stake in our markets.
3 posted on 07/04/2002 10:47:20 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: habaes corpussel
See: Islam - Study Warns of Stagnation in Arab Societies, New York Times, July 2, 2002, by Barbara Crossette (posted by swarthyguy).

See: Are too many Muslims in denial about September 11?, The Telegraph (U.K.), by Barbara Amiel, Mar. 4, 2002 (posted by Pokey78).

See: A Ray of Arab Candor: A U. N. report by Middle-Eastern intellectuals blames Arab culture, City Journal, July 4, 2002, by Victor Davis Hanson (posted by aculeus).

See: Many Saudis among 293 arrested [Pak], Frontier Post, July 4, 2002, by Shujaat Ali Khan (posted by Ranger).

4 posted on 07/04/2002 10:47:21 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: PhiKapMom
Bump.
5 posted on 07/04/2002 10:49:03 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: habaes corpussel
From my reply 26 at U.S. Sudan Ambassador Confirms Clinton Snubbed Bin Laden Deal, NewsMax.com, July 2, 2002, by Carl Limbacher (posted by NormsRevenge).

Said Tim Carney:

"In fact, what was offered (by the Sudanese) was to expel bin Laden to Saudi Arabia ... and the Saudis, because he was such a hot potato, simply refused to handle him,"

In Saudi Arabia, the leadership, in general, are revolting from the decadence which they believe to have resulted from the peoples' too close a proximity to the American media [generation]. As such, the leaders feel threatened by "Americanization." The Saudis, however by their methods, seem to be intent upon committing suicide in the name of trying to "save" their Royal butts from "Western Culture."

Furthermore, the Saudis are afraid that the communist-supported fascist-Islamic revolution which over-threw the Shah of Iran, has grown enough in Arabia to over-throw the House of Saud.

Also, the Saudis figured to appease Saddam Hussein, whenafter the last throw of cruise missiles by Bill Clinton's attempt to diffuse the concentration of the American public upon his Impeachment Trial in the U.S. Senate ... Saddam appeared, at the minimum, to win ... and so the Saudis upped the price of oil as tribute to Saddam.

In a similar vein, the Saudis are attempting to appease the fascists among their neighbors, among their subjects, and among themselves --- by attacking western culture and the United States of America.

When the Saudis ought to be busting their butts, to gather up all the Taliban and Al-Qaeda before they do further harm.

Here's why.

In the event that a "human wave" attack, here, by these folks who "hate us," running fuel-laden fire trucks or tankers into local schools, or hospitals, or shopping malls, or apartment complexes ... how are Americans going to react?

The Bush [still running 75% of the Clinton] Administration will attempt to control the people.

The people, much to the surprise of the Bush [still running 75% of the Clinton] Administration, are going to feel differently. They're going to be lookin' around for who caused such a thing, and President Bush's pleadings on behalf of the House of Saud will not hold, nor control much of, the wrath.

Yet, the Saudis support[ed] Osama bin Laden.

The Saudis believe in using terrorism as an economic means; they will support terrorism, which is actually a sub-class of piracy, wherever it will effectively obstruct the "oil bidness" competition.

The Saudis are undeniably members of the Axis of Terrorism against which the United States is at war.

Save the people of Saudi Arabia who would rather fight for their peace and liberty, and a judicial system which is not a direct, as well as absolute, branch of Islam ...

6 posted on 07/04/2002 10:51:51 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: habaes corpussel
Bush will not deal with the Saudis because it hurts his business interest. He has a lot of oil investment in Saudi Arabia and he wants to protect his own interests, as opposed to the national interest.
7 posted on 07/04/2002 11:16:17 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: habaes corpussel
There is an excellent article in the July-August issue of Commentary magazine (an AJC publication) titled "Our Enemies, the Saudis" by Victor Davis Hanson. I'll try to scan the text with OCR and post if I can.
8 posted on 07/04/2002 11:19:30 AM PDT by spald
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To: habaes corpussel
So, as long as the US continues to allow the importation of Saudi Oil, everytime we buy gas or we change our oil,..

WE are funding Islamic Terrorism.

Sometimes looking into the mirror can be a scary thing.

9 posted on 07/04/2002 11:54:33 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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