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MY VOTE IS FOR SALE
Vanity | July 4, 2002 | B. A. Conservative

Posted on 07/04/2002 6:16:32 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative

It is beyond challenge that most, if not all, of the problems America faces today originate in Washington. It is fallacious reasoning to suggest that the problem lies with the people of the United States. Our government is a republic. Our republic is predicated on the theory that those elected to public office have intellectual competence, educational skills or experience that exceeds that of the electorate and that those elected public leaders will do what is right for the country even in opposition to commonly perceived public opinion. During most of the past century, the political class has demonstrably failed to lead, but have instead become political prostitutes selling laws and benefits in exchange for votes transforming our Constitutional republic into a tyrannical mob-rule democracy destined for bankruptcy. Non-producing parasites now use the Democratic Party to prey on their neighbors, the still producing members of our country.

Under our Constitution, the power of the United States resides in We the people. For too long, we have allowed that power to be delegated or sold by the prostitutes in both political parties, primarily those in Washington. Clearly, ours has become a top>down government. As one voice among We the people, I think it is time to withhold the delegation of that power by only delegating it to selected politicians and then only with strings attached. FreeRepublic is a much larger segment of We the people, with a much larger voice. We at FreeRepublic are the roots of the grassroots. Newcomers and some that have been frequenting this site for years may deny that Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives because of the discussions that took place on this web site. They are wrong. Our voice is loud and it is heard in the Halls of Congress and in the Whitehouse. The stain that will be remembered in history is not the stain on Monica's dress; it is the stain of Impeachment. And that stain came from the computer ink that spilled from the hearts of Freepers determined to see justice done. We at FreeRepublic are the roots of the grassroots. The buck starts here.

There has been a great deal of discussion on FreeRepublic lately about what role we should play in this fall's election and that we should cut Bush and the Republicans some slack. Variations of this theme have been discussed on other threads: "THAT which you believe"---"An open letter to Republicans" by redrock. I particularly like the comments by DoughtyOne and "Move the RINOs and we move the party. I really think it's that simple," by NickDanger.

Ronald Reagan won two landslide elections by telling Americans he was going to cut the government in Washington down to size. The Contract with America gave the Republicans control of both houses of Congress for the first time in roughly thirty years. Prior to the Contract with America Republicans only had control of even one house in Congress one other time in 70 years. The lesson that Republicans seem to have difficulty in learning is that the people are conservative and when presented a conservative agenda they will vote for it. And conversely, when pandering is all that is offered, the public prefers the real prostitutes every time. I have a solution to this problem. I call it the

Contract with Congress

I am not giving my vote to anybody in November. I have decided to auction my vote in this fall's Congressional elections. Politicians are going to have to bid for my vote. I have decided not to exclude any particular politicians or parties from the bidding. And I have decided to attach some rules to the bidding itself:

  1. There is a minimum bid.
  2. Anyone defaulting on any part of the minimum bid will be barred from consideration for future auctions.
  3. A public pledge to guarantee to bring the minimum bid to the floor for a vote is an acceptable alternative to a written and signed contract, although anyone offering a written and signed contract similar in format to the Contract with America will be given preference.
  4. Any part of the minimum bid or "contract" not enacted into law will be supported and returned to the floor in the next or subsequent sessions of Congress as required until enacted into law.
  5. If there are no acceptable bids for my vote in Congressional races per the rules above, my vote (normally Republican straight ticket) will not be cast at all.

    Minimum Bid:

    1. Complete scrapping of Title 26, Subtitle A-Income Taxes.
    2. Replacement of the Income Tax with the Fair Tax, the Flat Tax, or a combination of the two.
    3. The growth of government spending is unacceptable. I not only want it stopped; I demand that it be reversed by at least 2% per cent per year for at least the next two years. In 2004, I will re-evaluate to determine whether or not the rate of reduction should be adjusted for future years.
    4. No more socialism. That means no new payments to individuals except for services rendered or goods purchased. That means no new grants to organizations, public or private, and no new grants to state or local governments.
    5. Immediately begin the voluntary privatization of Social Security using the Cato plan.

    This is only the Minimum. There are a number of suggested options that politicians could add now or that we will add in future contracts for future elections.

    Suggested Options:

    Most of these problems would eventually be solved by Term Limits. I think the Term Limits Amendment should be saved as part of the ultimate threat packaged as a part of a package to be presented under Article V to a Constitutional Convention. It takes time to put together sufficient public arousal and support to apply the kind of pressure that we may need to bring to bear on people who are used to exerting power rather than being subjected to it.



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To: Jim Robinson
"Just vote out the Democrats." -JR-
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----- Nice dream. -----

- But it ain't gonna happen no matter how much we pray. -
141 posted on 09/02/2002 3:07:23 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Jim Robinson
You keep saying repeatedly, parrot-like: "Vote out the Democrats....Vote out the Democrats...Vote out the Democrats." I guess we can give you credit for consistency. And seems to me, correct me if I am wrong, that you are saying we should wait until there are 435 GOP Rep's and 100 GOP Senator's before looking at third parties. And you know that is never going to happen. If everyone on Free Republic voted only on party and not principles (God help the Republic), does anyone here even think that there would still be a possibility of 335 GOP Rep's?? 300 GOP Rep's?? 280 GOP Rep's, anyone? Point being that there are always going to be elected criminals representing the other party. but that should not excuse overlooking thieves of freedom in our own party.

We need to, IMHO, instead concentrate on electing the conservatives of all, or no, parties.

But do you really think that all Republican candidates in November are part of the solution and that all Democratic candidates are part of the problem??? I was involved with the local Republican Party here in Louisville, KY for a few years, which was truly a couple more years than I could stomach. It was as if they would consistently be saying "Yeah, but those are OUR bureacratic thugs" when the GOP would blatantly abuse power, or "At least its the Republicans doing it and not the Democrats." It doesn't make a difference: jackbooted thugs are jackbooted thugs, and the party they checked on the little insignficant piece of paper called a voter registration card is irrelevant.

My voting record to this point has been as follows:
If there is a Republican and a Democrat, and no other candidate on the ballot for a given government office, I will always vote for the Republican IF he/she is more Constitutional. (That is what I will be doing this year in casting a vote for U.S. Rep Anne Northup.) If there are more candidates on the ballot for a position than just the two parties (read: one party/two heads), then I STILL vote for whichever is more Constitutional. IMHO, if everyone did this, we would have more conservative Republicans winning primaries, more conservative candidates (period) winning general elections and smaller government overall.

142 posted on 09/02/2002 3:39:07 PM PDT by RonPaulLives
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To: B. A. Conservative
You must have been reading my mind because as we were on our trip this weekend I kept thinking with 80,000 freepers we should be able to get our views and thoughts out to the corrupt policitians. I am tired of this tax system, I am tired of supporting the rest of the world and then let them get away with saying how arrogant we are or that we should not try to defend ourselves against Iraq or the terrorists. I'm tired of our people being harrassed at the airports and not profiling the very people who murdered 3,000 of our own and others around the world. Obviously, I could go on and on, glad you brought this up now what to do about it? I call my reps for what it is worth and I am not kind about what I say to them.
143 posted on 09/02/2002 3:42:00 PM PDT by pattycake
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To: pattycake
Welcome to the fight for freedom. Start warming up the oven; we are only two months from what could be an interesting election and a worthy followup to Election 2000.
144 posted on 09/02/2002 5:01:47 PM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: OWK
The ones with the "Ds" of course.
145 posted on 09/02/2002 5:03:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: tpaine
It will if you vote against them.
146 posted on 09/02/2002 5:03:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: RonPaulLives
Vote them out! That's no parrot. That's what it takes. There is NO other way.
147 posted on 09/02/2002 5:05:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
"Just vote out the Democrats." -JR-
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----- Nice dream. -----

- But it ain't gonna happen no matter how much we pray. -

141 posted on 9/2/02 3:07 PM Pacific by tpaine
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It will if you vote against them.
-JR- _________________________________

Funny, Last one I, [and millions of others], voted ~for~ was JFK, and look where we are.

-- Nope, voting for more Rinos is not going to restore respect for our constitution.
But you know that.
148 posted on 09/02/2002 6:16:59 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Whatever. Vote out the Demos.
149 posted on 09/02/2002 6:20:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Exactly. - But 'whatever' ain't gonna be the plan that accomplishes that goal.

You had the right instinct, imo, establishing the RLC forum. Too bad it sorta bombed.
- Any ideas on why?

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150 posted on 09/02/2002 6:31:12 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Vote them out. That is the plan. All else is b/s.
151 posted on 09/02/2002 6:32:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Vote them out. That is the plan. All else is b/s.
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Its all B/S? -- Whatever.
152 posted on 09/02/2002 6:45:02 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Interesting how conservatives who get all starry eyed when they talk about President Bush's "moral clarity" on foreign policy and dismiss Kissingerian realpolitik, are more than happy to embrace realpolitik on the domestic scene and dismiss the very idea of voting based on moral clarity, isn't it?
153 posted on 09/02/2002 6:55:49 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: AM2000
Yep, tis a wonder.

'Moral clarity' seems to be very much in the eye of the beholder, here at FR.
154 posted on 09/02/2002 7:26:37 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Jim Robinson; tpaine; B. A. Conservative; strela; OWK; RonPaulLives; pattycake; steve50; ...
To: exodus
I doubt we disagree much regarding what a conservative is. I just want the Democrats OUT! NOW! The sooner the better. This takes brute force and bludgeoning. No third party can accomplish that. After the death grip has been broken, then we can argue about finesse.
# 113 by Jim Robinson

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Let's say that you get what you want. The Republicans win it all. They gain a two-thirds majority in the House and the Senate, and even win the Presidency, by pandering to the liberals. We steal virtually all the Democratic Party's voters.

Now we can work for smaller, less intrusive government! Now we can institute conservative policies! Now we can rid the country of nanny-state do-gooders! Now we can stop the officially sanctioned encroachment of our freedom!

Wrong.

At the first sign that Republicans are going back on their promises to support and extend socialist feel-good policies, the liberals would abandon the Republicans. If that happened, the Republicans would lose their majority.

They would never risk it. Republicans could never alienate their liberal base and still retain power.

In order to draw in liberal voters, Republicans will have to fulfill the desires of socialists. That's the only thing that will bring liberal votes to the party.

If the Republican Party makes a successful power grab by bringing in the liberal vote, the Republicans will become a liberal party.

We must teach the Republicans that to retain our vote, they must consistently support conservative ideas and conservative policies.

The only way to show that we are serious is to vote for third party conservatives.

"If I vote for a Democrat to protest the direction taken by the Republican party, Republicans will point to my liberal vote as the direction they should go to gain my support.

If I vote for a Republican as the lesser of two evils, they'll point to my vote as an expression of confidence in their socialist policies.

If I stay home, and don't vote at all, they'll use statistics to decide why I didn't vote this time, and they'll bend those statistics to mean whatever is convenient for their purposes.

I want a conservative, so I'll vote 3rd party. When I vote for a conservative, even a 3rd party conservative, THERE IS NO QUESTION what it takes to win my vote. I want a conservative, and I won't accept anything less.

Republicans will point to my vote as the direction they need to go in order to gain my support. Democrats themselves will move to the right, as Clinton did in 1992, in an attempt to show me that they believe, just as I do, in freedom."

155 posted on 09/02/2002 8:16:56 PM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Maybe we could just intimidate liberals into not voting. Then the Republican majority will have come about without any liberal votes. All we really have to do is disenfranchise them. Somehow.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

156 posted on 09/02/2002 8:19:57 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: B. A. Conservative
I was okay until I read that we should stay home and not vote. Republicans losing power doesn't mean they listen next time, it means we lose our Republic to a very evil Socialist regime. No thanks.
157 posted on 09/02/2002 8:23:09 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Earn Your Vote


To: B. A. Conservative
"...Do you see ads for cars during Saturday morning cartoons? No. Kids don't buy cars."

"...a politician doesn't care about people who won't vote. It is awfully hard to tell whether that person sitting home is doing so out of apathy or out of protest.

But if politicians see third parties starting to garner 5-10% of the vote, that will change their behavior.

So I would vote, but vote for a third party."

# 132 by Earn Your Vote

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Well said, Earn Your Vote.

158 posted on 09/02/2002 8:25:50 PM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Third parties are too weak. Not enough numbers. If you want a more conservative government (and I do) then you are going to have to start by eliminating the most liberal (ie, leftist) elements. You will find them heavily concentrated in the Democrat party. Vote them out. In large numbers. The message that will send to both parties is that the American people despise and reject marxism! The only message you send by voting for an inconsequential third party or by not voting at all is that you don't give a damn. The left with thank you for that.
159 posted on 09/02/2002 8:27:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
The only message you send by voting for an inconsequential third party or by not voting at all is that you don't give a damn.

I respectfully disagree.

The Republicans and Democrats combined represent less than half the population of those eligible to vote. The only way to make third parties be of any consequence is to vote for them.

Government continues to grow and our rights shrink under Republicrat rule. Who wants to continue on that course?

160 posted on 09/02/2002 8:35:13 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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