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Can same-sex marriage be stopped?
Crisis Magazine ^ | July 2002 | Tim Hoopes

Posted on 07/03/2002 12:59:41 PM PDT by NYer

"I’m going to live with my daddy," Ben Stewart said when he was eight. "Because there I have both a daddy and a mommy."

Stewart’s childhood was vastly different from most kids’. He was constantly forced to choose between two homes: his mom’s, where his sister and mom’s female lover lived, and his dad’s, where his stepmom—whom he didn’t always get along with—lived.

"I was very young when I learned about lesbianism," said the 30-year-old Virginian, whose name has been changed for this article. He learned about it from his mother, who told him: "This is what I am, and don’t tell your dad or he’ll take you away from me."

Caught up in his choice between mommy and daddy was a choice between two worlds. One was the world where family means a mom, a dad, kids, and normalcy. In the other, the "gayby" boom was starting and developing its own vocabulary, one where "breeders" was the word for male-female couples, where "co-parent" replaced the terms "mom" and "dad," and where "family" was already starting to mean anything, and nothing.

For Stewart, it was also a woman’s world.

"I left because it was such a female environment, and I was having many problems," Stewart says. "I remember going to a counselor with my mom. The counselor was some kind of feminist, listening to me express dissatisfaction because there were no boys in my life." The counselor was unmoved. But Stewart was so unhappy that he eventually got to move in with his father and stepmother, while his sister stayed with his mother. What Stewart found is that in one sense, the son of a lesbian mother doesn’t have two mommies—or three, counting Dad’s wife. He has none.

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The Catholic faith’s rich understanding of marriage makes the Church the last hope. If gay marriage becomes legal, Stewart says, "the social ailments that we’ve been experiencing—divorce, abuse, neglect—these will only get worse."
1 posted on 07/03/2002 12:59:41 PM PDT by NYer
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Very informative piece.
2 posted on 07/03/2002 1:04:00 PM PDT by NYer
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What does a homosexual like McKellar ("I’ve had short-term and long-term relationships, and at present, I’m unattached") think of gay marriage? "Sure, we all have baby envy, and lots of us would like to raise kids," he says. "But we can’t have everything we want in life, and it’s selfish and rude to redefine society’s traditions and conventions simply for our self-indulgence." Now McKellar is a homosexual I can appreciate.
3 posted on 07/03/2002 1:19:39 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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Index Bump
4 posted on 07/03/2002 1:30:43 PM PDT by Free the USA
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The Catholic faith’s rich understanding of marriage makes the Church the last hope.

Invisible sarcasm?
5 posted on 07/03/2002 1:33:05 PM PDT by Belial
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Marriage Amendment NOW !
6 posted on 07/03/2002 1:33:36 PM PDT by ChadGore
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I wish that article would have gone into some detail about what has happened in Vermont since it passed that "civil unions" legislation a few years ago. I had predicted that the whole idea of "gay marriage" would lose its appeal once gay people began to see the negative aspects of making a legal commitment of this sort (alimony, child support, custody fights, etc.).

The fact that these people are unstable to begin with means that most of them are not too keen on signing legally-binding contracts like this, and I understand that the number of these "marriages" in Vermont has declined substantially since the legislation was first passed.

7 posted on 07/03/2002 2:10:29 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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This sort of is marriage illegal and it still didn't stop same sex couples from living together.
8 posted on 07/03/2002 2:16:17 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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1)Marriage is improper government meddling in religious territory.

2) The government must uphold legal contracts between adults.

3) We screwed up from square 1.

9 posted on 07/03/2002 2:18:23 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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11 posted on 07/03/2002 2:31:58 PM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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First day on this site, and you've been on two threads in defence of the sodomites. A pattern?
12 posted on 07/03/2002 2:36:28 PM PDT by phil1750
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Can same-sex marriage be stopped?

I'm not sure, but no sex marriages or infrequent sex marriages should be against the law.

14 posted on 07/03/2002 2:51:13 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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First day on this site, and you've been on two threads in defence of the sodomites. A pattern?

Thanks, you beat me to this post.

16 posted on 07/03/2002 3:00:23 PM PDT by NYer
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17 posted on 07/03/2002 3:18:23 PM PDT by NYer
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BTTT
18 posted on 07/03/2002 3:38:10 PM PDT by EdReform
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an AMEN bump
19 posted on 07/03/2002 3:42:55 PM PDT by Vinnie
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I have not seen one solid argument against same-sex marriage.

You're not to be blamed. Aside from the media blackout of the anti side of the gay marriage debate, very few conservatives have even bothered to put together much in the way of an intellectual defense of traditional marriage. Rather than taking gay marriage seriously, most seem to want to dismiss it and ignore it. That's a mistake.

Another problem is that the gay marriage proposition is taking advantage of the terribly weakened state of marriage as it exists. This is a culture of divorce that disposes of marriages more easily than used motor oil. We have largely lost the ability to defend marriage on any basis stronger than emotion. See if you can answer the question yourself: why is marriage important?

Yet even a casual study of this institution shows that marriage has long been the bedrock of society. There is clearly something more important about it than convenience, preference, or fashion.

For one of the few solid conservative arguments against same sex marriage, see Stanley Kurtz's excellent series of articles on the topic from National Review Online.

Love and Marriage,
The Right Balance,
Point of No Return,
Code of Honor,
Listening Attentively,
Middle Ground,
Radical Proposal,
Marriage’s Best Chance.

20 posted on 07/03/2002 3:49:45 PM PDT by Snuffington
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