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Gang-rape of teenager ordered as punishment for brother's sins
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Posted on 07/01/2002 4:32:35 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: DoughtyOne
We are the biggest saps on the face of the planet. I would agree with you if it weren't for the French.
To: LindaSOG
Stick to your guns. Those cultures are barbarous, inhumane and alien to anything we would value.
To: Restorer
'The Mosaic Law enforced essentially the same practices with regard to captured enemy women. They became the property of the Jews who had killed their husbands or fathers. You might also try reading Homer or The Trojan Women (Euripides?)."
And your point here is????
To: JamesWilson
ROFL on #221.
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posted on
07/01/2002 7:49:15 PM PDT
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Jhoffa_
To: Don Myers
My point is that (both strands, Hebraic and Hellenic, of) our own culture have a history of treating captured enemy women in exactly the same way as the Muslim religion prescribes. Please note that I did point out that this is in the past, unlike (some interpretations of) the Muslim religion, which encourage such action today.
To: FormerLurker
I'm also with you on that. I do, however, feel empathy towards those, both here and abroad, who might believe in Allah, yet don't feel hatred towards the United States, those who sincerely distance themselves mentally and spiritually with such blasphemous monsters. There really does appear to be SOME that feel strongly against this type of atrocity, as well as having good will towards us.
Well said. I know many Muslims and Hindus. They are all very fine freedom-loving, God-fearing, and moral people whom it is a pleasure to know and call 'friends.' We are not at war with Islam, as President Bush has stressed. We are at war with terrorists. Apparently these bigots and blowhards think they know better than President Bush, while condemning the tribalist mindset they themselves engage in.
To: Don Myers
Try 2: My point is that the Koranic prescription for treatment of captured enemy women is no more barbaric than the OT rules for same. Jews and Christians, at least in theory, have evolved past such behavior, despite what their Holy Book says. (Some) Muslims are still stuck in the 7th century.
To: Cultural Jihad
Well said. I know many Muslims and Hindus. They are all very fine freedom-loving, God-fearing, and moral people whom it is a pleasure to know and call 'friends.'
Well, yeah.. Me too, domestically. But where are these people now?
Surely they are under represented in the middle east. That or they are a silent majority.
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posted on
07/01/2002 7:54:23 PM PDT
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Jhoffa_
To: What Is Ain't
I'm just relived to see this story is not datelined Illinois.
To: strela
The culture didn't sentence that girl to be raped, a few corrupt, evil judges and townspeople did. If rape-as-punishment were the usual penalty within a culture, don't you think that we would be reading about incidents like this every day? Now that the word is out, well, it does seem that we hear about teenage rape, or stonings, or lashings of women every day, in the muslim world. For crimes such as they uncovered their face, or were raped. Or, like this story, were related to a man who had sex with another woman
By the way, do you condemn those Muslims who raped that girl? Yes or no?
PS: #228 ends with a (?)
Deleted by mistake.
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posted on
07/01/2002 7:57:27 PM PDT
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Jhoffa_
To: Restorer
The Mosaic Law enforced essentially the same practices with regard to captured enemy women. They became the property of the Jews who had killed their husbands or fathers. I'd like to read about this. Where can I find this in the Bible? When you speak of "Mosaic Law" did God command this?
Thanks.
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07/01/2002 7:57:32 PM PDT
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niki
To: Jhoffa_
ROFL on #221. Nothin' beats some good ole fashion'
(and well deserved) French-bashin'.
To: strela
We are looking at what is going on NOW, not hundreds of years ago. Islam is dangerous and evil and must be stamped out.
To: JamesWilson
A white flag holder is still optional equipment on their autos.
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posted on
07/01/2002 7:59:16 PM PDT
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Jhoffa_
To: Restorer
My point is that (both strands, Hebraic and Hellenic, of) our own culture have a history of treating captured enemy women in exactly the same way as the Muslim religion prescribes. Please note that I did point out that this is in the past, unlike (some interpretations of) the Muslim religion, which encourage such action today. The main difference is that our civilisation has "evolved" beyond that. Western civilisation is marked by the very fact that we adapt to changing conditions and adopt social change. No one in the West, except for a small religiously fanatical minority take religion seriously. Though we are quite tolerant of such Superstitious practices (with the exception of anti-religious liberals.)
The Muslim world on the other hand, never had a "reformation" and never secularized. They are still stuck in the 7th century having ossified intelectually and culturally.
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posted on
07/01/2002 7:59:37 PM PDT
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Cacique
To: Restorer
Even you admit that the Koran does proscribe such behavior even in our days. And, there are many instances in which the Islamics act in truly barbaric fashion in obedience to their Koran. Just what are you arguing here?
Are you saying that we should be understanding of these poor misguided souls who act less than beasts? Or, should we defend our nation and our people against a barbaric people? Should we, on one hand, kill those who seek to destroy us and embrace those who are not actively trying to kill us, but who instead support the killers?
You do not yet have a coherrent point.
To: Barnacle
"I'm just relived to see this story is not datelined Illinois."
If the Muslims manage to take over this country, it will be.
To: Jhoffa_
A white flag holder is still optional equipment on their autos. LOL!!! Along with brakes!
To: JamesWilson
Air fresheners, however.. are standard.
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posted on
07/01/2002 8:03:26 PM PDT
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Jhoffa_
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