Israel Gave Major Aid to Hamas

United Press International | 24 February 2001 | Richard Sale

[xvb]

The problem with these threads is that same the same Jewhating whiners show up to try and blame Israel for the terrorism of sick psychos like Hamas.

[Alouette]

I can laugh at the UU's.

You know Larry, you seem to have a problem with the Jooooz that is up close and personal. Is your ex-wife Jewish? Do you hate your mother-in-law? Normal people aren't this preoccupied unless there is a "special someone" who is the focus of all this anger.

So, spill it.

[LarryLied]

Not the "Freud Card" again. Not that. Let's go back to the tying me into websites and writers I've never heard of before. That's more fun.

Or better still, just drop the personal stuff. I don't engage in it not because I'm a naturally polite guy even though I am but because it doesn't convince anyone of anything. If fact, those who do it lose.

[Cachelot]

Let's go back to the tying me into websites and writers I've never heard of before

Since you claim to have invented the term "holocaustism", I'm sure you have never heard of these sites. They seem to have heard of your accomplishment, though :)).

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[SJackson]

Engaging in McCarthyism Cachelot?

Next think you'll try to say the Las Vegas Skinheads, Racial Nationalist’s Library, and the IHR aren't legit sites either.

[eshu]

the story which is to be found on no responsible/reputable outlet, only on nazi/kook outlets

WOW! UPI is a nazi/kook outlet?

That is a sensational charge, sir. Are you sure about that?

BTW, since UPI is owned by the moonies, who also own the Washington Times, I suppose that means that the Washington Times is also a "nazi/kook outlet" too, right?

I am waiting for your proof that this is not so...

[Austin Willard Wright]

FYI

[jwalsh07]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the story has some factual basis. Here's my reply:

So what?

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[Austin Willard Wright]

So what?! You aren't serious are you?!

[jwalsh07]

Serious as a terroist attack that kills Americans Willard. Your analogies and your facts are sadly lacking. The Israelis haven't been killing Americans for the past thirty years, the radical Islamists have. Where the hell have you been?

You got a problem with Israel?

[Austin Willard Wright]

In other words, you admit that *you don't care* whether or not Israel built up Hamas, a major terrorist organization!!! Friggin amazing!

[jwalsh07]

What Israel did thrity years ago has absolutley no bearing on the Iraq debate, none, nada, zippo. If thats all you got Willard, you ain't got nothing.

[Austin Willard Wright]

I never said Israeli support of Hamas had *anything* to do with the current debate over Iraq. That was your conclusion. The key issue which prompted my comment was your, rather rather cold-blooded claim, that you *don't care* whether an ally who has received over 100 billion dollars in U.S. aid since the 1940s, helped to build up a terrorist organization.

[jwalsh07]

You're irrelevant Willard. The debate has passed you by. Adios.

[Austin Willard Wright]

What debate? Every time I challenged you, you changed the subject. You dance almost as well as Ali but I have yet to feel your bee sting. Enjoy your war while you can....but don't say I didn't warn you.

[jwalsh07]

Willard, the thread is here for those who will read it. Remember those names I gave you and the people they killed? You failed to respond because you had nothing to respond with.

Those names were in the speech given by the POTUS tonight and you still have no response. You have nothing Willard but two year old articles full of conjecture about waht the Israeli's may have or may not have done thirty years ago.

Abu Abbas, Abu Nidal, Hamas....Iraq. Remember them Willard, its waht this is all about, terrorists killing Americans with impunity and certain Americans willingness to do absolutely nothing about it.

[Austin Willard Wright]

I did respond (at length). My point was quite simple but I will repeat it. Saddam is an evil character....but the folks you mentioned are no worse than many other evil people in the world. Moreover, the U.S. never even seriously called for their extradition (nor is it doing it now!) The current hype about them is only a pretext. This is primarily a social engineering war to create a "new Iraq" through nation-building and create a pro-U.S. counterweight to Saudi Arabia.

In my view, wars waged by U.S. should be for defense only (hence the Afghanistan war was just and proper) not for the naive Wilsonian purpose of stamping out evil. Wilsonian wars, to establish democracy, build nations, kill bad people, police, etc., only waste resources and detract the American military from its essential role as the defender of the U.S.

As I said before, you will get your Wilsonian war. It will be fun for a while and I suspect that the initial occupation will be fairly easy. A year or two from you now, however, your fairy tale dream of creating a stable and democratic Iraq will be in tatters. It will be replaced by a bottomless foreign aid rathole and yet another dangerous and futile "police" occupation by U.S. troops....by then, of course, the Demopublicans will probably be planning an intervention somewhere else to repeat the cycle all over again.