[jwalsh07]

Willard, the thread is here for those who will read it. Remember those names I gave you and the people they killed? You failed to respond because you had nothing to respond with.

Those names were in the speech given by the POTUS tonight and you still have no response. You have nothing Willard but two year old articles full of conjecture about waht the Israeli's may have or may not have done thirty years ago.

Abu Abbas, Abu Nidal, Hamas....Iraq. Remember them Willard, its waht this is all about, terrorists killing Americans with impunity and certain Americans willingness to do absolutely nothing about it.

[Austin Willard Wright]

I did respond (at length). My point was quite simple but I will repeat it. Saddam is an evil character....but the folks you mentioned are no worse than many other evil people in the world. Moreover, the U.S. never even seriously called for their extradition (nor is it doing it now!) The current hype about them is only a pretext. This is primarily a social engineering war to create a "new Iraq" through nation-building and create a pro-U.S. counterweight to Saudi Arabia.

In my view, wars waged by U.S. should be for defense only (hence the Afghanistan war was just and proper) not for the naive Wilsonian purpose of stamping out evil. Wilsonian wars, to establish democracy, build nations, kill bad people, police, etc., only waste resources and detract the American military from its essential role as the defender of the U.S.

As I said before, you will get your Wilsonian war. It will be fun for a while and I suspect that the initial occupation will be fairly easy. A year or two from you now, however, your fairy tale dream of creating a stable and democratic Iraq will be in tatters. It will be replaced by a bottomless foreign aid rathole and yet another dangerous and futile "police" occupation by U.S. troops....by then, of course, the Demopublicans will probably be planning an intervention somewhere else to repeat the cycle all over again.