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Dems Claim Bush and Cheney Killed Flight 93 Heroes
Newsmax.com ^ | June 29, 2002 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 06/29/2002 10:42:42 AM PDT by Paul Atreides

A web site with ties to the Democratic Party and ex-President Bill Clinton is charging that President Bush is most likely "personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93," claiming that evidence shows Bush and Vice President Cheney ordered the plane shot down on 9-11.

The left-wing web site Democrats.com goes so far as to contend that the famous photo depicting President Bush talking on the phone that morning aboard Air Force One was likely taken as Bush was authorizing Cheney to give the order to have Flight 93 blown from the sky.

"Here is a very likely scenario," says the web site. "Bush was approving the shooting down of hijacked airliners, which led Dick Cheney to order the shooting down of Flight 93 - with all of the Heroes on board."

The photo, offered earlier this year for $150 as part of a GOP fundraising package, has the Democratic web site complaining that sale of the picture was "a huge insult to the victims of 9-11 — who died never knowing they were helping raise big bucks for the Republican party."

The report, by Democrats.com co-founder Bob Fertik, blames Bush - and not the terrorist hijackers - for killing the Flight 93 heroes:

"A careful analysis of all available evidence points to a shootdown as the most likely cause of the crash of Flight 93 - thus making George W. Bush personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93."

Democrats.com accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating a massive cover-up by going along with the convenient cover story that it was the battle between Flight 93's passengers and the plane's hijackers that caused it to crash into a rural field in Shanksville, Penn.

"Certainly, the White House has every reason to lie," says the Democratic Party's web promoters. "After all, it would look pretty horrible if Bush and Cheney were responsible for the deaths of the crew and passengers about Flight 93, even if the planes were shot down to protect Washington DC."

"Unfortunately for the White House" says web site continues, "there is overwhelming evidence that Flight 93 was shot down - and no evidence at all that the Heroes succeeded in taking control of the cockpit."

In fact, no one has ever claimed that Flight 93's heroes "succeeded in taking control of the cockpit." Otherwise the crash might have been prevented. The question is, did their failed efforts to regain control distract the hijackers long enough to foil their ultimate plans to attack Washington, D.C.

Given their public comments to date, the families of Flight 93's heroes seem to have no doubt about the cause of the crash.

Last April, after hearing the in-flight recording of the plane's final 30 minutes in a special session arranged by the FBI, family members seemed convinced that their relatives' heroic effort to storm the cockpit - and not a missile from an F-16 - was what brought the plane down.

"I felt incredible pride," said Deena Burnett, whose husband, Tom, died on the United Airlines plane, told reporters after hearing the tape. "It was obvious they all acted heroically."

"I never doubted that there were specific individuals who worked together, and the tape confirmed that," said Alice Hoglan, mother of Flight 93 hero Mark Bingham. "I never doubted that the cockpit had been taken over by terrorists who were thwarted, and the tape definitely confirmed that."

Hoglan, who along with the other Flight 93 relatives was asked by the FBI not to discuss specifics, described the tape as "wonderful in a strange and odd way" - hardly the words of someone reacting to evidence that her son was killed on orders of the president.

Further proof of a shootdown, Democrats.com argues, comes from reports that debris from Flight 93 was discovered eight miles away from the actual crash site, a detail the continues to perplex those on both sides of the political aisle.

But if Flight 93 did explode in midair, there are other plausible explanations, such as the bomb the hijackers said they had and threatened to detonate, according to several passengers who relayed the news in cell phone calls to relatives.

But Democrats.com doesn't let details like that get in the way of accusing President Bush of responsibility for the crash and the ensuing "cover-up."

"The FBI has stated that there was no evidence of a bomb at the crash site," the web site argues. "If the hijackers detonated a bomb, it is hard to imagine a reason why the FBI would cover it up."

Democrats.com has at least nominal connections to ex-President Bill Clinton.

Former Clinton pollster Stan Greenberg sits on the web site's advisory board.

And last August, Democrats.com boasted it had "arranged with the office of former President Clinton for birthday greetings sent by e-mail to be delivered to him personally," adding, "Please join us in thanking the last legally elected President of the United States for his dedication to public service."

On its "Community" page, the left-wing web site explains:

"Democrats.com is the largest online community of Democrats. We have created a unique space where Democrats can meet, discuss, and work towards building a stronger Democratic Party.... Take our Voter Pledge to sweep all Republicans out of office."


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To: Texasforever
I hope he is not my uncle...
221 posted on 06/29/2002 9:11:28 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Let's Roll
Post #196: Exactly. Democrats must be defeated. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for the destruction of the United States.
222 posted on 06/29/2002 9:11:29 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: JeanS
I don't think he would be acting. I know if I had to order the downing of a plane even if it was the only choice I had I would still feel responsible and would be devestated by it and it would show. Bush appears human to me and Bill Clinton does not. I see a big difference.
223 posted on 06/29/2002 9:12:38 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: deport
I got it the first time ;)
224 posted on 06/29/2002 9:12:54 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: terilyn
LOL...... glad you did. Just be on the look out for the Release.
225 posted on 06/29/2002 9:14:51 PM PDT by deport
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To: McGavin999
That has become President Bush's favorite joke, and there is no record that it's true.
226 posted on 06/29/2002 9:14:57 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: PFKEY
Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood your post.
Clinton would and could have faked emotion, I don't think Bush could.



227 posted on 06/29/2002 9:16:22 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Texasforever
If you're thinking I have another ID here you are mistaken. This is the only ID I have ever Registered at FreeRepublic. Besides, nobody should be accused of being me ;)
228 posted on 06/29/2002 9:16:54 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
What do we do when our own liberalized institutions work against the USA and use their God-given (and taxpayer/American funded) resources to aid our enemies?

,.,..

We defeat them at the election. Like a baseball game. We have to play hardball and cream em.
229 posted on 06/29/2002 9:20:57 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Texasforever
"Heard this before"??

President Bush has said that, in one form or another, at least fourteen times since it's first appearance on October 3, just after 9/11. I didn't make it up.

And apparently it's not true. Nobody, including the White House, can find any instance when he said anything remotely like that during the campaign.

Is it only lying if it's Democrats?? Republicans inherit a pass on "truth" I didn't hear about??

Presidents lying is bad, regardless of Party.

230 posted on 06/29/2002 9:22:50 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: UncleJeff
I didn't mention this site now did I?
231 posted on 06/29/2002 9:23:15 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Chemnitz
IF the plane was shot down, it was the right call, and one most passengers on the plane, given full information about what was happening, would likely have endorsed.

BUT, IF the plane was shot down, there have been lots of lies told by folks who promised integrity.

232 posted on 06/29/2002 9:28:30 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: Texasforever
Oh, OK. I thought there might be an innocent about to be hung for a sheep, or something...
233 posted on 06/29/2002 9:32:47 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: FreeTally
Personally, I certainly do not think it makes them any less heroic, I just think the evidence points to it being shot down(justifiably).

What evidence?

234 posted on 06/29/2002 9:44:07 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Jim Scott; RJayneJ
Excellent post/rant, most worthy of quote of the week nomination!
235 posted on 06/29/2002 9:44:52 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Paul Atreides
This is all a sick warped joke, right?

Next they'll claim Jeb flew one of the planes into WTC and parachuted out over the Crysler Building.

Hey DU, GO POUND SAND!
236 posted on 06/29/2002 9:48:40 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: UncleJeff
President Bush has said that, in one form or another, at least fourteen times since it's first appearance on October 3, just after 9/11. I didn't make it up.

And apparently it's not true. Nobody, including the White House, can find any instance when he said anything remotely like that during the campaign.

I have never read that Bush's version is not true...where did you hear it?

237 posted on 06/29/2002 9:55:29 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Paul Atreides
Holy Freeping Cow!
These RAts have gone mad!
238 posted on 06/29/2002 9:59:37 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: deport
I have no doubt that it will be posted here and go at least 500 replies :)
239 posted on 06/29/2002 10:03:34 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: woofie
http://www.msnbc.com/news/7731 23.asp
240 posted on 06/29/2002 10:20:49 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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