Mark Steyn: In the Absence of Guns

The Vanguard (originally from the American Spectator) ^ | 14 June 2000 | Mark Steyn

[45Auto]

This was probably posted two years ago; I thought it would be interesting to see how things have progressed steadily downhill in England since 2000. I see that police are now calling for a ban on fake guns in Britain, since that's all they have left to ban. The British government has conveniently created not just a few victim rich areas, but have made the whole damn island just that!

[Red Jones]

bttt

[cpdiii]

Here in the Free Republic of Texas an intruder in your home is consider a grave threat and can be "disposed" of in an appropriate fashion. If he is outside of your house you may not dispose of him unless he is a mortal threat (coming at you with a knife gun etc). If he is running away do not dispose of him are you will go to jail.

[katya8]

I have friends in several EU countries and they all say the exact same thing - that crime is totally out of control and that walking on any city street has become life-threatening.

[Paleo Conservative]

What methods do you recommend to get an retreating intruder to face you?

[Paleo Conservative]

I have friends in several EU countries and they all say the exact same thing - that crime is totally out of control and that walking on any city street has become life-threatening.

No death penalty in Europe.

[hillsborofox]

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[JamesWilson]

Did you see this one, Pokey? If not, PING.

[Kermit]

Don't worry. I'll only get worried, when they ban fingerguns and start requiring surgeries.:^0

[45Auto]

The incredible thing is that England has become a living laboratory of what not to do if one actually wants to lower crime. The really scary thing is that in the US, states like California with its misguided, loony, socialist government, seems to be going down the same road, oblivious to its own madness.

Is it an intentional plan to destroy freedom and institute absolute police power? If so, it isn't working the way is was supposed to work in England. Sure, Britain is a police state, but there is absolutely NO control of the criminal element, while the citizenry at large seems to be nothing but a huddled mass of scared rabbits.

If the goal was total control over the population, it has been a miserable failure. The end result would seem to be complete anarchy. Ultimately, either major changes in British law are going to have to restore a citizens' right to self-defense, or the entire former rule of law is going to be ignored and the country is doomed. Mad Max-ian society may be only a few years away.

[elbucko]

This was probably posted two years ago;

TRUTH is eternal, Forty-five. Great post!

One of the pillars of philosophy of my favorite Frenchmen, Antoine de Saint-Exupery (The Little Prince) is that of mans perception is contradictory to the truth. Counter intuitive is the current name of this human, and tragic, ability to see things not as they are.

And so the British Fabian Socialists see criminals as victims and victims, if they refuse to act the part, criminals.

FMCDH.

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Through the Looking Glass and Back Again - From Anti-gunner to Firearms Instructor in Four Months

[45Auto]

The Clockwork Orange comes to life!

[elbucko]

Yell: "HEY, YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET, A-H8LE!"

[45Auto]

From The Herald, June 28, 2002:

Police chief warns on fake guns

LYNNE ROBERTSON

A police chief yesterday warned it was only a matter of time before someone was killed amid an increasing trend among young people to carry imitation firearms.

Tom Wood, the deputy chief constable of Lothian and Borders Police - launching an amnesty which will allow the owners of imitation and toy firearms to hand in the fake guns for destruction at police stations across the force area - told of a dramatic increase in the number of incidents involving replica guns.

Last weekend alone, officers in Lothian and Borders had dealt with at least six calls involving young people carrying or displaying imitation guns.

Highlighting concern, the police chief warned: "In these situations, we have to deploy our armed response unit. It is a desperately dangerous situation. It is going to end in disaster.

"While our firearms officers are very highly trained, it is very hard to decide whether a weapon is a replica or the genuine article, particularly in bad light and difficult circumstances."

He appealed to parents not to buy imitation firearms or BB air guns for their children. -June 28th

[Bahbah]

Well, there's always the old "Hey, baby, wanna get lucky." He might turn around.

[No Truce With Kings]

What methods do you recommend to get an retreating intruder to face you?

A spouse or teenaged child cutting off the route of retreat with a wicked-looking shotgun.

[B Knotts]

Except at night. Right?

[gitmo]

What methods do you recommend to get an retreating intruder to face you?

I used to work for one of the top two retail companies in the world. They advised us that a warning shot in the back of the head was pretty effective.

[MoralSense]

Almost any of Dick Francis's crime novels bear out what Steyn says about the British police -- they're useless.