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The incredible thing is that England has become a living laboratory of what not to do if one actually wants to lower crime. The really scary thing is that in the US, states like California with its misguided, loony, socialist government, seems to be going down the same road, oblivious to its own madness.

Is it an intentional plan to destroy freedom and institute absolute police power? If so, it isn't working the way is was supposed to work in England. Sure, Britain is a police state, but there is absolutely NO control of the criminal element, while the citizenry at large seems to be nothing but a huddled mass of scared rabbits.

If the goal was total control over the population, it has been a miserable failure. The end result would seem to be complete anarchy. Ultimately, either major changes in British law are going to have to restore a citizens' right to self-defense, or the entire former rule of law is going to be ignored and the country is doomed. Mad Max-ian society may be only a few years away.

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Is it an intentional plan to destroy freedom and institute absolute police power? If so, it isn't working the way is was supposed to work in England. Sure, Britain is a police state, but there is absolutely NO control of the criminal element, while the citizenry at large seems to be nothing but a huddled mass of scared rabbits.

Maybe the way to institute a police state is to have no control over the criminal element - this justifies ever-increasing controls over the vast majority of the people, and actually gets them to ask for/demand those additional controls (sheeple work this way). The truly rich and powerful have armed guards, so they'll never be victimized. The criminal element is their tool, precisely because it is uncontrolled.