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"We have many senior citizens in our state who have voted without incident in most, if not every, election since turning 18," [Said Rep. Babette “Babs” Josephs] “Often times, voting repeatedly in the same election”

The way to prevent it is to have inspectors and an informed citizenship."[Said Pedro Rodriguez]

So, exactly what would the inspectors inspect if no I.D. is required? Is Mr. Rodriguez naive enough to think that the reason citizens vote more than once is because they don’t know it is wrong? Or maybe he just thinks we’re dumb enough to believe that is the case.

Republicans said the bill represented a non-partisan effort to wipe out fraud.[ said Steve Miskin]

Come on Miskin, you’re sounding as bad as Rodriguez. If the vote was split down party lines, then quite obviously it isn’t “non-partisan”. The Democrats have long come to rely on bolstering their power by vote fraud, changing… well, enforcing the rules late in the game will seem like a blow below the belt to those who can’t think rationally.

This shows Mike Fisher can't win on a fair vote. said Rep. Mark Cohen

Actually, what it shows is that Republicans believe that Mike Fisher CAN win on a fair vote.

It’s simply laughable that the dems believe that the electorate of PA would think that this measure is some type of ploy to keep loveable old minorities struggling to reach the polling stations in their walkers from casting a ballot. Well, actually, almost no one challenged the fact that we had a 98.6 turn out in the 2000 election in Philadelphia. Maybe they’re not that stupid after all…

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

1 posted on 06/28/2002 6:07:02 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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Legislation would force voters to show ID at polling places

Most common form of identification for the run-of-the-mill democrat.

2 posted on 06/28/2002 6:19:44 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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Geez Louise, in DC and Maryland, I have had to show some ID every time I came to the polls. They didn't insist on a drivers license, nor necessarily the sort of photo ID that you would need to cash a check, but something - like a library card or even a recent voting announcement mailed to my home - to show that I'm me.
3 posted on 06/28/2002 6:28:16 AM PDT by DonQ
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Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID.

The measure, which requires voters to present a voter-registration card or photo identification at the polls, ...

Metcalfe said most counties have agreed to issue new voter-registration cards at no cost to individuals who have lost them.

Democrats are LIEberals.

I got a voter registration card when I registered, showing my state and federal district numbers. Everyone gets one, so it is not a burden to present it at the polls. However, since it is nothing more than a cardboard printout, it is easy to forge, so those good dead Demoncrats can continue to vote. They need a better way to purge the rolls of ineligible voters across the state.

4 posted on 06/28/2002 6:28:33 AM PDT by brityank
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"At a time when states and the federal government are looking at making it easier to vote and establishing more reliable voting procedures, this can only be seen as an attempt to disenfranchise people," said Larry Frankel, legislative director for the American Civil Liberties Union in Pennsylvania.

This outcry is absurd. We have an ID requirement in Kentucky and the most commonly used - asked for by polling officials - is our photo ID drivers licenses.

The Penna. Dems just don't want anything to get in the way of their voter fraud system IMHO.

6 posted on 06/28/2002 6:34:27 AM PDT by toddst
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It is about time. You gotta shake you head at people who claim that showing an ID is a form of racism, or a huge burden.
9 posted on 06/28/2002 7:16:13 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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A great idea and about time.

"This is a violation of the equal-protection clause of the Constitution," said Rep. Mark Cohen (D., Phila.).

Sure, sure.

11 posted on 06/28/2002 1:21:56 PM PDT by Tribune7
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Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID.

And any voter who doesn't live within a short walking distance of the polling place would have to pay bus fare or would have to pay for gas in their car to get to the polling place, thus creating a "poll tax", right?

13 posted on 06/28/2002 1:44:21 PM PDT by usadave
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Good post Owl. We b eat 'em on school vouchers, now let's nail them on vote fraud.
15 posted on 06/28/2002 1:53:22 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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"Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID." OH PUHLLEZE!!!!! Chances are, at some point in your day, you'll need ID to write a check. Are we supposed to believe these people never pay by check?


16 posted on 06/28/2002 1:58:41 PM PDT by soccermom
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All Pennsylvanians need to hold their reps' feet to the fire on this one. The alternative is living in a dictatorship.
17 posted on 06/28/2002 1:59:02 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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Let's say the legislation passes and gets signed into law. Who is checking your ID at the door?

I don't think that the State of Pennsylvania is hiring a bunch of bouncers for November.

18 posted on 07/09/2002 6:31:13 AM PDT by jz638
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The measure's sponsor, Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R., Butler), said it was aimed at curbing voter fraud, not preventing legitimate citizens from voting.

Exactly. 99% of legitimate citizens have some form of picture I.D. And if they do not, guess what? They have all the way until November to make sure they get one! And the DNC can start sending out notices to every registered Democrat right now making them aware. They could also set up a fund from their contributions to pay for an I.D. for anyone who can not afford one($20), you know, instead of spending the money on lavish hotels, limos and vacations.

19 posted on 07/09/2002 6:40:26 AM PDT by FreeTally
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I'm having trouble with the math here. The voting age of 18 hasn't been around that long. It was 21. Would someone please 'splain to me how a person of 18, say, 25 years ago, could jump to senior citizenship so soon?
20 posted on 07/09/2002 6:44:38 AM PDT by Lois
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Thank you for this post. It soothes my mind to know that there is an effort in Pennsylvania to counter the Philadelphia machine that blatently assults on the streets those who dare oppose them.

I wish them luck but doubt the corruption in the city of brotherly love will be thwarted.

22 posted on 07/09/2002 7:24:11 AM PDT by bert
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Opponents said the proposal would create a "poll tax" because residents who do not drive would need to pay for a photo ID.

Rep. Babette Josephs (D., Phila.), said the ID system would intimidate urban voters who may not have driver's licenses, and thus suppress turnout.

I figure anyone who doesn't have a driver's license would have a photo ID. How else would they cash their welfare and Social Security checks.

23 posted on 07/09/2002 7:59:45 AM PDT by reg45
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Atta boy Owl! Keep it on the front burner. Hopefully we can eventually send some of these vote thieves to jail.
24 posted on 07/17/2002 12:21:40 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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The Dems will always ensure that welfare recipients, the elderly in walkers, etc. will get to the polls. But to help those who can't stretch their welfare check past their potato chip and fritos bills (that they munch in front of their TV all day long while I'm out busting my butt at work paying their bills), let's pass an amendment providing a free State I.D. for those who can't afford one.
27 posted on 08/20/2002 11:05:07 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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Hope this gets through!!!! There was fraud in the 2000 election in Phila, and the despicable Democrats want to do it all over again.

My congressman in the Lehigh Valley, Pat Toomey, is being attacked by O'Brien, who is financed by the national Democrats and unions.

28 posted on 08/20/2002 7:27:21 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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Just to clarify the record, the original vote in the PA House, before the bill was Rendellified (watered down to meet his original objections), 29 Democrats voted for the bill -- a photo ID only, bill which also prohibited felons from voting. It became a party-line vote when Rendell became scared the vote might be fair and honest.


29 posted on 03/19/2006 5:21:44 AM PST by SpokesmanSteve
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Jeepers creepers, you have to show ID to cash a check, don'cha? To get benefits? To buy booze? What's the prob with showing some form of ID to vote?


30 posted on 03/19/2006 5:27:12 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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