Jim Quinn interview David Shippers and Janya Davis concerning OKC terrorist connection(6/27/02).

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[McGruff]

Yesterday (6/27/2002)Jim Quinn had an interview with David Shippers and Janya Davis concerning John Doe #2 OKC Middle eastern terrorist cover-up.

It's now available in his archives. Go to the link above and click on show archives and 6/27/2002. It’s available in multiple formats. Segment starts 1 hour and 30 mins into the broadcast.

It's definitely worth listening.

[OKCSubmariner]

Ooopps...

Reply #20 was meant to correct reply #19 and not reply #14.

Guess I need a rest.

[Fred Mertz]

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.

[backhoe]

This klugy old PC of mine can't handle any of those warroom files; what I will do is add this post to a mass email I'm sending this evening- it will also grace the next update of the Dark Underbelly file.

[honway]

Davis has denegrated for years General Partin

Brig. Gen. Partin(Ret.) is an expert in the field of studying the effects of munitions and explosives on structures. It is a narrow field.
In my opinion, anyone who dismisses his work out of hand either lacks the knowledge and understanding to appreciate his report or the individual is pursuing an agenda subordinate to searching for the truth.

[glorygirl]

How about this?

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[backhoe]

That's the one... I actually have some of the more elabotate banners ( no OKC, but they are easy to adapt, I just lost interest as the bump lists may be phased out ) right here:

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[glorygirl]

What do you think of this?

More colorful, don't you think, despite the b&w photo?

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OKC BOMBING

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We really SHOULD be getting paid for this, you know.

[backhoe]

That's a good one, and one that I will save and use.

FWIW, the first time I saw the overhead view of that building, I remarked to my wife, "Heaving charge? H@ll, no, that was a cutting charge..."

[okkev68]

Sadly enough, the same reason OKC was covered up is the same reason it will finally be uncovered - Political gain! As soon as a major network thinks they can scoop everyone else, or politician thinks he can make his career the dam will break.

[ncpastor]

Please add me to your ping list, OKC. And God bless you for standing for truth, no matter what.

[Nita Nupress]

I have tried everything in my power to get the full truth out as soon as possible everyday since April 19, 1995 for the sake of the victims then and to prevent other victims in the future. This is why it has been so hard and frustrating for me to try to get Davis to come forward with her evidence on prior warning for over six years. I was always afraid there would be another attack if she did [NOT]hurry up and come forward and I told her that many times.

Soooooo.... You're insinuating that if Jayna Davis had done exactly as Pat Briley suggested, then 911 would not have happened? Surely that's not what you're trying to make us think.

Personally, I'll reserve judgment on Jayna Davis and anyone else who is publicly trashed at FR unless I hear both sides of the issue. There are always, always, always two sides to an issue, no matter what that issue may be.   I can sit here and think of several good reasons to explain her actions, but that's beside the point.  The point is this:  A public forum like FR is not the place to air your grievances against someone in a personal dispute. You obviously harbor some bitterness, but this is not the place to dump it.  I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not interested in wading through it.  It's nothing personal; you seem like a nice, sincere person whose motivations are very sincere, and I appreciate all your hard work at uncovering the truth.

Maybe you should write a book, Pat.  That would give you a channel for your anger; you could lay public claim to all your hard work on the OKC bombing; and it may help with your feelings of being cheated / sabotaged / hindered / threatened / hoodwinked / harmed / interfered with / obstructed / impeded / hampered / (insert your own word here).

Now is not the time for infighting. 

Just my 2 cents.

[honway]

After her testifying, Davis had her attorney read a prepared statement outside the OK County Gtrand Jury stating her position strongly counter to what Jasper and Key and other investigators had found in the OKC bombing case

A copy of the public statement would be very helpful in my attempt to fully understand the situation.

[OKCSubmariner]

Thank you for your kind words.

Please see reply #33.

[OKCSubmariner]

Please see reply #33. Thanks.

[Dixie Mom]

Thanks for the ping, FRiend. Bump for truth and justice in OKC.

[OKCSubmariner]

Please see reply #33. Thanks.

[honway]

Intended for discussion and educational purposes only, not for distribution

Judge Refuses To Bar Subpoena Of Ex-Reporter

Ed Godfrey
09/12/1997

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A judge on Thursday refused to quash a subpoena requiring former KFOR-TV reporter Jayna Davis to testify before the Oklahoma County grand jury investigating the Murrah bombing.

In June 1995, Davis aired a report linking an Iraqi then living in Oklahoma City with the bombing. Al-Hussaini Hussain sued KFOR in Oklahoma County District Court, saying the station fingered him as John Doe 2.

Hussain was not named, but attorneys claimed he was identified through "innuendo." Hussain dropped the lawsuit in April.

Davis was subpoenaed to testify today . On Thursday, her attorney, A. Daniel Woska, asked Oklahoma County District Judge Bill Burkett to prevent her from appearing, based on "newsman's privilege" under state law.

Davis claimed her stories involved sources who said they saw "a certain individual either in the company of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City prior to the bombing, or in other circumstances suggesting he might be John Doe No. 2."

Davis claims those reports were based on confidential sources and information that has never been broadcast.

Davis and the witnesses she spoke with have been threatened as a result of her investigation, Woska told the judge.

Patrick Morgan, the prosecutor advising the grand jury, argued Davis waived her newsman privilege by voluntarily disclosing certain information to law enforcement.

Morgan also said the grand jury should hear about any threats.

"If she has information about who gave these threats, I think the jury has the right to hear that kind of testimony," Morgan said.

Burkett agreed . Woska told the judge that Davis did not know who made the threats.

Davis, who is seven months pregnant, did not appear Thursday because she was ill, Woska said.

Burkett ruled Davis must appear as a witness, but told both sides to attempt to determine in advance what testimony may be privileged. Her testimony is expected to be postponed until next week.

[honway]

I am not casting any judgements here, but I would like to recap what I know.

John Doe 2 participated in the murder of more than 160 people in Oklahoma City on April 19,1995

The Grand Jury convened in Oklahoma City had the power to push the investigation forward and influence the Oklahoma law enforcement officials to pursue the arrest of the mass murderer, John Doe 2.

Outside of law enforcement, Jayna Davis possessed the best evidence available on the subject John Doe 2.

When given the opportunity to provide this important information to a Grand Jury, she elected to fight the subpoena, unsuccessfully.

John Doe 2 is still at large.

[Nita Nupress]

First, I disagree with your premise that publication of the 'prior notice' would have hastened an uncovering of the truth.  Nothing would ever convince me that the Iraqis' involvement in OKC would have been acted upon under Clinton, Clinton, and Freeh.  Just like impeachment, you could have plastered the "prior notice" documents on the front page of every newspaper in the country and it wouldn't have done a dang bit of good.  The media would have given it a cursory mention, then Bill Clinton would have bombed another aspirin factory to change the subject. 

Second, you failed to address my point that FR, a public forum, is not the place to address your issues with Jayna Davis or anyone else.  File a lawsuit.  Write a book.  Hit a punching bag.  Take up jogging.  Drown in a bottle of JD if you have to.  I just think personal rants between public figures are inappropriate in this medium, that's all.

You said,

When you use the word "Exactly" and "insinutating" in the above sentence you are grossly overstating the situation and you are not properly characterizing what has been written (nice spin try but what you wrote does not hold water with me and others on FR who have been following this story and can read for themselves)with regard to what I and others urged Jayna Davis to do( reveal prior warning notice) and not do (attempt to drive my witnessses away from me, Key and Jasper).

I wasn't trying to "spin."  You stated, "I have tried everything in my power to get the full truth out as soon as possible everyday ... to prevent other victims in the future. .... I was always afraid there would be another attack if she did [not] hurry up and come forward and I told her that many times."   Read your words again if you don't understand.  If that doesn't help, never mind.  It's not really important and beside the point.

However, If you will read the replies on this thread carefully you will find that William Jasper, Charles Key, Mike McNulty, several World Net Daily journalists , two of Jayna's attorneys urged her to come forward years earlier with the specifics of the official prior warning.

I don't recall seeing the replies of William Jasper, Charles Key, Mike McNulty, several World Net Daily journalists, and two of Jayna's attorneys on this thread.  When it comes to "choosing sides" (a stupid concept to begin with, but something you're promoting on this thread), I would never listen to just one version of events and then make a judgment. 

Even David Schippers said during the Quinn interview that he called Jayna Davis on 9/11 and told her that she should definitely come forward with then. Schippers did know that Jayna had been sitting on the prior warning notice for years.

I haven't had a chance to listen to the interview, so I can't comment on Schippers' motives, actions or behaviors.

So I do want you and others on FR to know that Jayna should have at least made the details of the prior warning notice years earlier-I do want you KNOW that.

Okay, Pat.  See if this works for you: 

I KNOW that you think Jayna should have at least made the details of the prior warning notice years earlier.  I KNOW that you have that firm belief and opinion.

Other than that, I'm reserving judgment.  I haven't heard the comments and opinions of the other parties involved.  And to be honest, I don't care to dredge up the past.  The 'prior notice' news is out.  It's public now.  People are paying attention.  This type of conversation and these types of accusations will accomplish nothing positive and are harmful to FR.  More importantly, they are harmful to the resolution of the OKC bombing cover-up.  That is what this is all about, isn't it?

Davis deserves to be criticized for this and for her aggressive attempts to keep important parts of the OKC story from coming out learned by Jasper, Key and myself and PArtin on domestic John Does and on additional bombs. It is bad journalism to do what she did to our witnesses to drive them away and to try and control them and to denegrate Key, Japers, and Partin to discredit their evidence which she has done for over six years.

Again, that's one man's opinion on events. You're free to state them. 

Even if your version of events is true, it's my opinion that this is not the place to relive the past and criticize people about things that have happened over the past six years.   It's in bad taste and serves no useful purpose.  I may be the only one here who doesn't care about the past, but that's my opinion. And remember, I disagree with your premise that publication of the 'prior notice' would have done any good.

 Read what glorygirl has written in her replies on this thread questioning the professionalism of Davis as a journalist. . I can give you the names of local reporters in OKC who do not agree with Davis .... Jasper, Keys, McNulty ,Davis' attorneys and World Net Daily criticisms of Davis ....  I also have heard significant professional criticisms about Davis ... from Kenneth Timmerman of Insight magazine...

I don't care what glorygirl, OKC reporters, Jasper, Keys, McNulty, Davis' attorneys, World Net Daily, or Kenneth Timmerman may think.  The past is the past.  It's time to move forward.  And again, I can't speak for everyone here; I'm only speaking for myself.

Victims, reporters, Congressional staff members,attorneys,journalists and witnesses have all been impeded in getting the OKC bombing story out for over six years by Davis deliberate and unprofessional actions and they have complained about it to her and others repeatedly during those six years. What she has done has not been helpful to them and to our country because it greatly delayed our efforts to combat terrorism in the US and get needed reforms earlier when they were needed.

There's not really anything new to say here.  I just thought you'd feel better if everyone read your words again.

Davis mishandling of the OKC bombing evidence and the witnesses is as an important part of the OKC bombing story as the mishandling of witnesses and evidence by the FBI and DOJ.These two mishandlings are directly related and were wrong in my opinion.

Ditto on my last comment.

If I write my book, it will contain the complete story and many Chapters on what the FBI, DOJ AND Jayna Davis did and did not do.

One of our main differences seems to be that you think the FBI is inherently evil, while I do not.  Just an irrelevant observation.

But in case you have not noticed, I have written a chapter about every month (on average)in the articles I have been posting on FR since June 2000. Anyone who wants to can easily compile my articles and my replies into a book for free. Some are already doing that as an e-Book. I have tried saving everything important I and others have written on the OKC bombing on FR incluiding what has been written by BlueDog, Nancie Drew,Secret Squid, Nita Nupress and many others. I will be saving (and maybe publishing) this reply too.

You have done wonderful work here.  We would not be as far along in understanding the OKC events if you had not been here to lead the way and answer questions.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for that.  Unlike all my opinions written above, I know I speak for everyone here when I say we all appreciate you.  Really.