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Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?
June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/26/2002 11:48:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is your wake-up call

My friends, I've been taking a lot of flak lately because of my stand on President Bush and the Republicans. Well, my thinking is that the coming elections are so critical that the very continuation of America as we know it may be at stake.

All of our institutions are controlled by liberals. Both houses of Congress are awash in liberals and socialists and moderates and very few conservatives. The Courts are infested with liberal activist judges. Our media and entertainment industries are overrun by liberals. Our universities are overrun by liberals. Our public education systems are overrun by liberals. The liberals control public opinion through their controlled nightly news programs and their daily liberal newspapers. My God, the whole damn country is run by hordes of mushy headed liberals and socialists in biblical proportions! And now they even have the audacity to openly attack patriotism and even God Almighty Himself!

A United States Federal Appeals Court in California has declared the

Pledge of Allegiance to be unconstitutional! And this simply because it contains the phrase, "Under God." I'm speechless! I just sit here and shake my head. Don't even know what to say.

Wake up America! We've been saying that for years. The far right-wingers have been shouting it for decades. Wake up America! Wake up America, the socialists are coming!

And now it's here. The Republic is in grave danger. The liberal activist judiciary has tested the waters. If America does not wake up and not only say no, but hell no to this abomination, then what will the emboldened court take next? Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not gonna sit around on my butt doing nothing while we find out.

Call to action: Get off your Butts! Call or write your reps! Voice your opinion. Demand that they do something about this. Tell them that America will not allow this outrage to stand! Demand of your Senators that they move President Bush's judiciary appointments through the Senate! The Democrat controlled Senate is holding up his appointments, hoping to delay as many as they possibly can until Bush appoints judges more to their liking, or possibly even until they can get Gore or Hillary elected in 2004. God forbid!

And, I'm convinced more than ever, that we must have a complete turnover of the judiciary in the next decade. This is critical. The liberal activist judiciary is getting more and more aggressive. If we do not get some conservative judges in there pretty soon, this game is going to be over.

How do we get conservative judges? Well, I can guarantee you that we will not get them as long as the Senate is controlled by Democrats. We must have a Republican President to appoint conservative judges and we must have a Republican majority so they will be moved through the Senate. This is one of the primary reasons why I want to push so hard to help elect Republicans to the Congress and especially to the Senate. And this is why I want to push so hard to help re-elect President Bush in 2004.

Wake up America! And wake up right-wingers! Vote out the Democrats. Vote in a huge Republican majority so we can retake America from the liberals!

We cannot afford a loss or even a squeaker in the next couple of elections. We must have Reaganesque landslides! Send them to Washington with a mandate from the American people! We want a complete turnover and makeover of the judiciary and all of the government. Give is back our Liberty!

This is not the time for sending a negative message. It does us no good for conservatives to sit on their hands or to vote third party. The only message that sends is to say you don't care if we have wall-to-wall liberals forever. The Democrats will love you. The liberal activist judiciary will love you.

The message you should send is one by pen and ink, or by phone calls and personal meetings. Send a message now to your congressmen and to the Republican Party. Now is the time to send the message. Tell them what we want them to run on and what we want them to do when they get in there. Send them a positive message filled with patriotism and love for God and Country. Tell them that we are fed up with the liberals and we want our country back and we want our rights back. Tell your relatives and your friends and neighbors. Tell them to write and call and visit. And tell them to vote for the Republican in their districts. We must do this if we want it back. We cannot afford to fail.

God bless you all and thank you for bearing with me. I love my country and I love my freedom more than life itself. I don't care what anyone says about me, or what labels they pin on me. From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it! I am going to help turn this thing around or I'm going down in flames trying.

FReegards,

Jim Robinson



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KEYWORDS: god; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pledge; unconstitutional
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To: Jhoffa_
That's exactly the play, and for the most part, it will work. I'm not above cutting deals or playing the race card against the Dems. I'm not above reaching out into new areas (Hipanic and Asian voters), even if it means we do what some purists call pandering.

We must get the Senate back in 2002. The RESULTS will matter, not our methods.
501 posted on 06/27/2002 7:32:18 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Well, well.....501%!
502 posted on 06/27/2002 8:22:01 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Jim Robinson
Did I hear a battle cry?


503 posted on 06/27/2002 8:43:57 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Thoughts on the Pledge of Allegiance.

Thought 1 . God fearing Patriots and Conservatives do NOT Pledge Allegiance to a piece of CLOTH or a tangle of poorly defined concepts.

This is called IDOLATRY.

Thinking Conservatives pledge allegiance to God and BECAUSE of their pledge to God swear to protect and defend those institutions and principles critical to Human Events here on God's Earth.

To understand this concept compare and contrast the Pledge of Allegiance with the Boy Scout Oath or the Oath of Office required of the President as written in the Constitution to wit:

"I solemnly swear (or affirm) I that I will faithfully execute the office of the president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.(so help me God)

Distinguish between this oath taken by a man whose allegiance is pledged to God and who seeks to honor God with his vow to serve faithfully and well on Earth and the Pledge of Allegiance to the "flag and the republic for which it stands" (whatever that means!)

This also happens to be the oath administered to members of the United States Military and the vow I took when I joined the Navy.

I must honor that oath by my respectful disagreement with those people who somehow confuse idolatry with an attack on religious belief.

Thought 2. This tempest in a teapot is a direct result of leviathan Government abrogating unto itself the education of the nation through the device of a monolithic Public School establishment.

It is inconceivable the government court system would do anything other than rule for the benefit of the government in the government run school system.

Anyone unhappy with the 9th Circuit ruling should seek to shut down the government monopoly over education immediately.

Impeachment of judges, public street protests, letters to the editor are both useless and meaningless if the Public School Monopoly survives unaltered.

It has been said many times before: "The Government governs best that governs least". This is especially true in regard to the education of the young.

Best regards to all, .

504 posted on 06/27/2002 9:44:49 PM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus
bttt
505 posted on 06/28/2002 3:46:17 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: cva66snipe
Conservative republicans outnumber socialist republicans. The point is to get the majority to get the good guys on the bench.
506 posted on 06/28/2002 4:49:26 AM PDT by smith288
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To: Jim Robinson
Reporting for duty and ready for battle, General. God bless you!
507 posted on 06/28/2002 6:04:52 AM PDT by Jen
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
is now purely voluntary

Tell that to the idiots working in the public schools.

508 posted on 06/28/2002 7:10:55 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: rustbucket
My son also had one English teacher who was fond of interjecting biblical references/discussions, when they were s'posed to be studying English Lit. These ranged far enough from the subject at hand to involve lengthy expositions on the nature of the 'Holy Spirit', etc.

I agreed with my son that such was completely out of line in a public school, but no one ever went so far as to initiate formal protest. There were times, though, that, had I been in that classroom, that teacher would have been facing a formal board hearing. The proper response to any such line of questioning initiated by a student would have been 'We'll discuss it after class, if you like.' Such discussions should never be initiated by the teacher (in a public school setting).

509 posted on 06/28/2002 7:16:44 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Jim Robinson
You have hit the nail on the head, sir.
510 posted on 06/28/2002 7:22:47 AM PDT by lds23
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To: hellinahandcart
I suppose you think that 'showing disrespect to' doesn't mean the same as 'disrespect', either, huh?
511 posted on 06/28/2002 7:27:24 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Pythagoras
There is still plenty of time for the Continent, and a great deal of hope; but time is a-wasting here in America and the writing is on the wall. I urge you and anyone else to read "Death of the West", by Patrick J. Buchanan, if you have not already.
512 posted on 06/28/2002 7:34:58 AM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Le-Roy
I suppose you think that 'showing disrespect to' doesn't mean the same as 'disrespect', either, huh?

Only in Ebonics, and English-as-a-second-language circles. It's right up there with "axe".

The founders were perfectly capable of writing "Congress shall make no law showing respect for any establishment of religion" if that was what they had intended to say.

513 posted on 06/28/2002 7:58:36 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Le-Roy
Let me put it another way. You or I can "respect" a law, but a law itself cannot "respect" something in that sense.

It can command or forbid, but it cannot "respect" as in showing or feeling deference or esteem. Only beings can do that.

Let's say a law was passed in a mythical country making "respect for the king" compulsory. The law itself is not respecting the king.

Insert another "feeling"-type verb into the First and you'll see what I mean. Like, "Congress shall make no law loving an establishment of religion". Makes no sense.

514 posted on 06/28/2002 8:30:28 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Jim Robinson
BRAVO ZULU! Well said, Jim.

Lets Roll, Conservatives!

515 posted on 06/28/2002 8:44:40 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: hellinahandcart
3 entries found for respect.
To select an entry, click on it.
 
Main Entry: 2respect
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1560
1 a : to consider worthy of high regard : ESTEEM b : to refrain from interfering with
2 : to have reference to : CONCERN
synonym see REGARD
- re·spect·er noun

---------------from Merriam-Webster Online

The question is - does the Pledge, as currently worded, respect an establishment of religion, and if so, does it fall under the jurisdiction of that amendment?

I say yes. Congress added the words 'under God', and they respect (concern, regard...even esteem) the concept of belief in a 'god', and even a particular set of monotheistic theology.

Is that really so hard to grasp?

516 posted on 06/28/2002 9:34:39 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Le-Roy
The question is - does the Pledge, as currently worded, respect an establishment of religion, and if so, does it fall under the jurisdiction of that amendment? I say yes.

I say no. But the question should be whether the Pledge, as amended by Congress, establishes religion. Because the Pledge certainly doesn't concern an establishment of religion (the phrase "under God" modifying "republic", along with "indivible" and "liberty and justice for all"). Sorry. And a pledge cannot esteem anything anymore than a law can esteem anything.

Congress added the words 'under God', and they respect (concern, regard...even esteem) the concept of belief in a 'god', and even a particular set of monotheistic theology.

Again, words cannot DO things like respect or esteem, which require a feeling. Words can do things like praise or acknowledge but you won't find either of those under the definition of "respect".

Even so. To respect (concern, respect...even esteem)the concept of belief in a 'god', and even a particular set of monotheistic theology, has not established anything. An acknowledgement of something that has existed, (which was "established" for centuries before anyone dreamed of a USA) just doesn't constitute an establishment.

You're trying to do just what the court has done, which is to substitute alternate definitions of the words "respecting" (changing it to esteem) and "establishment"(changing it from "the act of establishing" to existing established churches, religions, or theologies)in order to change the original meaning--which just won't wash because no matter how you try to alter the Establishment clause, you can't get rid of the Infringement clause. The latter only makes sense if the former is read as the founders intended--that Congress may neither create an "official" religion or nor suppress, outlaw, or interfere with any other. Play along one more time:

"Congress shall make no law esteeming an established religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

Does this really make sense to you?

517 posted on 06/28/2002 12:24:43 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Le-Roy
The big lie/HATE...fraud-hoax-FREEZE/squeeze---

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality--UNDER GOD...the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values GROWTH!

Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling all the residuals---technology/science === evolution to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION--crusade/WAR--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY against God--man--society!!

Liberals/Evolution BELIEVE they are the conservatives--guardians too...

the shield between state and religion(evolution/atheism) is gone---this is chernobyl---radiation poisoning---NUCLEAR SOCIAL ANTARTICA/AMERICA!!

Hypnotism--witchcraft ideology--politics--religion--BRAINWASHING--superstition--BIAS---EVOLUTION/ATHEISM is a Hate CRIME

ps...Atheism/evolutionism is the essence of liberalism/socialism---State secular MONOPOLY religion forbidding the freedom of speech/religion of everything except atheism!

518 posted on 06/28/2002 2:23:03 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Copernicus
You have put the thoughts of many into words, and better than my attempt. I admit to loding sight of holding allegiance FIRST to GOD and then protecting the best institutions.
519 posted on 06/28/2002 5:27:26 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: hoosierham; tpaine
"I pledge to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America with liberty and justice for all."

You and TPaine have an excellent grasp of the basics. How can we cut through the thicket of insanity that has developed on this topic?

Even Thomas Sowell has jumped on this train wreck. Of all people I would have thought he would have a better grasp of the fundamentals.

Best regards,

520 posted on 06/28/2002 7:23:59 PM PDT by Copernicus
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