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Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?
June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/26/2002 11:48:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is your wake-up call

My friends, I've been taking a lot of flak lately because of my stand on President Bush and the Republicans. Well, my thinking is that the coming elections are so critical that the very continuation of America as we know it may be at stake.

All of our institutions are controlled by liberals. Both houses of Congress are awash in liberals and socialists and moderates and very few conservatives. The Courts are infested with liberal activist judges. Our media and entertainment industries are overrun by liberals. Our universities are overrun by liberals. Our public education systems are overrun by liberals. The liberals control public opinion through their controlled nightly news programs and their daily liberal newspapers. My God, the whole damn country is run by hordes of mushy headed liberals and socialists in biblical proportions! And now they even have the audacity to openly attack patriotism and even God Almighty Himself!

A United States Federal Appeals Court in California has declared the

Pledge of Allegiance to be unconstitutional! And this simply because it contains the phrase, "Under God." I'm speechless! I just sit here and shake my head. Don't even know what to say.

Wake up America! We've been saying that for years. The far right-wingers have been shouting it for decades. Wake up America! Wake up America, the socialists are coming!

And now it's here. The Republic is in grave danger. The liberal activist judiciary has tested the waters. If America does not wake up and not only say no, but hell no to this abomination, then what will the emboldened court take next? Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not gonna sit around on my butt doing nothing while we find out.

Call to action: Get off your Butts! Call or write your reps! Voice your opinion. Demand that they do something about this. Tell them that America will not allow this outrage to stand! Demand of your Senators that they move President Bush's judiciary appointments through the Senate! The Democrat controlled Senate is holding up his appointments, hoping to delay as many as they possibly can until Bush appoints judges more to their liking, or possibly even until they can get Gore or Hillary elected in 2004. God forbid!

And, I'm convinced more than ever, that we must have a complete turnover of the judiciary in the next decade. This is critical. The liberal activist judiciary is getting more and more aggressive. If we do not get some conservative judges in there pretty soon, this game is going to be over.

How do we get conservative judges? Well, I can guarantee you that we will not get them as long as the Senate is controlled by Democrats. We must have a Republican President to appoint conservative judges and we must have a Republican majority so they will be moved through the Senate. This is one of the primary reasons why I want to push so hard to help elect Republicans to the Congress and especially to the Senate. And this is why I want to push so hard to help re-elect President Bush in 2004.

Wake up America! And wake up right-wingers! Vote out the Democrats. Vote in a huge Republican majority so we can retake America from the liberals!

We cannot afford a loss or even a squeaker in the next couple of elections. We must have Reaganesque landslides! Send them to Washington with a mandate from the American people! We want a complete turnover and makeover of the judiciary and all of the government. Give is back our Liberty!

This is not the time for sending a negative message. It does us no good for conservatives to sit on their hands or to vote third party. The only message that sends is to say you don't care if we have wall-to-wall liberals forever. The Democrats will love you. The liberal activist judiciary will love you.

The message you should send is one by pen and ink, or by phone calls and personal meetings. Send a message now to your congressmen and to the Republican Party. Now is the time to send the message. Tell them what we want them to run on and what we want them to do when they get in there. Send them a positive message filled with patriotism and love for God and Country. Tell them that we are fed up with the liberals and we want our country back and we want our rights back. Tell your relatives and your friends and neighbors. Tell them to write and call and visit. And tell them to vote for the Republican in their districts. We must do this if we want it back. We cannot afford to fail.

God bless you all and thank you for bearing with me. I love my country and I love my freedom more than life itself. I don't care what anyone says about me, or what labels they pin on me. From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it! I am going to help turn this thing around or I'm going down in flames trying.

FReegards,

Jim Robinson



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: god; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pledge; unconstitutional
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To: Jhoffa_
Why is God's name did you give yourself that screename?
401 posted on 06/27/2002 9:07:09 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Jim Robinson
The most critical thing conservatives need to do right now is to elect Bill Simon.
402 posted on 06/27/2002 9:09:40 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Jim Robinson
This does not require a Constitutional amendment. Don't you all understand that the 9th Circuit Court has finally dealt a death blow to judicial activism if this is just handled with Clarity (and maybe by Clarity).

This ruling finally got me to realize why this judicial activism has been happening and how to stop it. The ridiculousness of this ruling helps nail it.

The court did not rule on any law. They were ruling on Community practice which is not in the purview of the Court. The Courts may rule on the Constitutionality or Unconstituionality of a Law but only Congress or state legislatures may pass laws. No law was passed here to require the recitation of the Pledge.

It is simply community practice which is a power retained by the People and outside the Courts jurisdiction. So just use the Constitution as is and call me in the morning. If this is done judicial activism should come to a screaching halt or atleast be regularly reversed. Don't fall victim to the liberal knee jerk reaction. "There ought to be a law."

P.S. Do call your Reps and Senators and tell them to formally request by Resolution that the Supreme Court immediately take up and reverse the 9th Circuit Courts decision.

Ravenstar
403 posted on 06/27/2002 9:10:08 AM PDT by Ravenstar
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Cause Hoffa's back.

Reincarnated as a union hating Conservative..

(It's a poke at the unions actually. Organized Labor's little hero goes bad.. :)

404 posted on 06/27/2002 9:14:16 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Le-Roy
If anyone wishes to voluntarily recite the Pledge, more power to them. If I want to (as someone did earlier in the thread) post here, "God Bless America.", I can do that; but to require attendance, and require and/or enforce recitation, would be contrary to the intent of the Constitution.

I am a public school teacher. Recitation of the Pledge is voluntary NOW. We cannot and do not force students to say the Pledge.

We DO recite the Pledge as a class each day, but students who do not wish to do so are not REQUIRED to do so.

405 posted on 06/27/2002 9:15:36 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Jhoffa_
Whew! Unfortunately, organized crime and corrupt labor unions are still alive and well in Chicago.
406 posted on 06/27/2002 9:16:42 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Jim Robinson
Well said oh fearless leader!

It's great that you've come out of the political closet, so to speak and thrown your full and unconditional support behind President Bush and Republican candidates for this coming fall elections. I can't disgaree with one word you wrote Jim and again welcome you onboard in support of President Bush. He's a fine man and a good American. He needs everyone's support.

Conservatives, Republicans, independents and others who are opposed to the liberal social policies of the Democratic Party, should join all those who love America and vote these leftwing bastards out of office.

407 posted on 06/27/2002 9:18:13 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

Yeah.. The two are joined at the hip..

Forever corrupt and inefficent. Rewarding warm corpses with tenure and actively punishing superior job performance.

It has nothing to do with the "workin man!" and everything to do with corruption, socialism and control by stealth.

408 posted on 06/27/2002 9:20:01 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Amelia
You are correct about that one AMELIA.

The U.S. Supreme Court needs to take a second look at their past flawed interpretation of the Establishment Clause. Someone should file another relevant lawsuit, which can be distinguished from other past U.S. Supreme Court rulings, and try to get it to the U.S. Supreme Court via a Writ of Certiori.

Either way, this Federal Court ruling will get overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court. But just the fact that this Liberal Court of Appeals ruled this way is scary.

409 posted on 06/27/2002 9:20:52 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, you are SOOOO right! If this doesn't stress the importance of the fall elections, I don't know what does. Freepers, we are a powerful force when united for a cause. Let's work together to make sure the Republicans gain control of the Senate in November 2002!

United we will stand! God bless America!

410 posted on 06/27/2002 9:24:26 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Jim Robinson
Yep, came to the same conclusions myself some time ago. Hope you enjoy your Bush-Bot suit as much as I do. More comfortable by the day. Heeheee.
411 posted on 06/27/2002 9:25:11 AM PDT by Arizflash
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To: Amelia
...students who do not wish to do so are not REQUIRED to do so...

   Really? As a test, my son declined to participate one day. It became an on-going battle with the teacher, and the school administration, till the end of the school year (and his graduation). There was no disruption, no belligerence, no active dissension by my son, simply a decision to not go along with an empty ritual (which is the way it is treated by most of the other students).

   The teacher claimed it was a disruption to the other students, sent him to the office, the principal tried to bully/coerce him to participate (my son said, 'You really don't want to talk to my dad about this.'), finally sent him back to class with the agreement that he would stand quietly --- that wasn't enough for the teacher, who still waxed apoplectic every morning, still manufactured disciplinary crises requiring administrative intervention.

   The function of 'public' school in this country today is primarily social indoctrination --- it is most certainly not about developing creative, vibrant intellects.

   Convince me that the same (or much worse) wouldn't happen to an Occidental who spoke '...one nation, under Allah...', as should very well be their prerogative.

412 posted on 06/27/2002 9:33:04 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Le-Roy
To draft a Constitutional Amendment requiring recital, in this current form, would be a travesty; and the ruling is proper, if it only bars mandatory recitation. If anyone wishes to voluntarily recite the Pledge, more power to them. If I want to (as someone did earlier in the thread) post here, "God Bless America.", I can do that; but to require attendance, and require and/or enforce recitation, would be contrary to the intent of the Constitution.

Since I came up with the idea for an Amendment (maybe others have too, but I know I did, and I'll speak to my notion), let me say the words I crafted have zero requirement to mandate recitation, but merely to ensure the form remained constant.

This is not a new concept for the Constitution, either. The oath of office for the President is in there, so why not the Pledge?

It can be left to the states, as it is now, what to do with it.

413 posted on 06/27/2002 9:33:35 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Jim Robinson


414 posted on 06/27/2002 9:34:57 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Le-Roy
"Convince me that the same (or much worse) wouldn't happen to an Occidental who spoke '...one nation, under Allah...', as should very well be their prerogative."

In case you haven't noticed, the word God is used very generically in this context. And in case you have forgotten, Allah is Arabic for the term God.

415 posted on 06/27/2002 9:39:01 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Amelia
Make sure you don't say goodbye to them at the end of the day! (I'm kidding):

Main Entry: good-bye Variant(s): or good-by /gud-'bI, g&(d)-/ Function: noun Etymology: alteration of God be with you Date: circa 1580 1 : a concluding remark or gesture at parting -- often used interjectionally 2 : a taking of leave



416 posted on 06/27/2002 9:40:59 AM PDT by Howie
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To: Mo1
FOFLOL. Thanks, you're right I did. I'll correct my mistake right away. LOL :)
417 posted on 06/27/2002 10:04:41 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Mo1; Jim Robinson
"..... I love my country and I love my freedom more than life itself. I don't care what anyone says about me, or what labels they pin on me. From this day forward I am a Bush-bot and proud of it! I am going to help turn this thing around or I'm going down in flames trying. "

Thank you. I am so grateful for the firm position you have taken on this crucial issue and for the positive suggestions. We need to replace both Senators from my state but especially the jr Senator,Mary Landrieu. She is a young Hillary in the making with the money and backing of the old democratic party machine here. Right now the chances of defeating her aren't looking too good.

Thanks for the Ping, Mo. :)

418 posted on 06/27/2002 10:07:38 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
   That addresses not one whit of my scenario. Can you honestly aver that a child in Topeka, Ks., or Atlanta, Ga., or Salt Lake City, Ut., would not be ostracized, excoriated, vilified and generally calumniated, were they to be heard pledging allegiance to '...one nation, under Allah...', without the school administration, the state legislature, the national legislature, or the U.S. Supreme Court (or all of the above) actively endorsing such, as good and proper under the guidelines of the Constitution? Or even, at least, making it explicitly clear that there are to be no punitive sanctions or 'official' condemnation for even a refusal to participate?

   Anything less amounts to state endorsement of religious beliefs, since the fed-gov is the heavy hand behind 'public' schools.

(Once again, this whole question could be solved by completely removing fed-gov from any involvement in the process of education.)

419 posted on 06/27/2002 10:29:53 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: Jim Robinson
ONE NATION UNDER GOD

Bump!!

420 posted on 06/27/2002 10:38:13 AM PDT by AuntB
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