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9TH CIRCUIT COURT: PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL
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Posted on 06/26/2002 11:25:21 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

UNBELIEVABLE. BREAKING ON FOX: SF APPEALS COURT SAYS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ENDORSES RELIGION, AND IS THEREBY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.


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KEYWORDS: 9thcircuitcourt; michaeldobbs; pledgeofallegiance; unconstitutional
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To: Recovering_Democrat
11:32 PDT (AP) -- The court, in the nation's first ruling of its kind, said that when President Eisenhower signed the 1954 legislation, he wrote that "millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."

The court noted that the U.S. Supreme Court has said students cannot hold religious invocations at graduations and cannot be compelled to recite the pledge. But the appeals panel said that classroom pledges, regardless of whether a student participates, are unconstitutional and an "unacceptable choice between participating and protesting."

"Although students cannot be forced to participate in recitation of the pledge, the school district is nonetheless conveying a message of state endorsement of a religious belief when it requires public school teachers to recite, and lead the recitation of, the current form of the pledge," the court said.

41 posted on 06/26/2002 11:34:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: WellsFargo94
whatever happened to freedom of worship? I suppose you have such freedoms as long as you are not Christian.

Freedom of religion in the US today means that you are free to practice religion as long as noone else notices.

42 posted on 06/26/2002 11:34:29 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Recovering_Democrat
only in that federal court district.
43 posted on 06/26/2002 11:34:34 AM PDT by Charles_Bingley
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The "one nation UNDER GOD" portion was added later to the pledge. I can't see the need for outrage here. This is simply courts affirming the separation of church and state.
44 posted on 06/26/2002 11:34:57 AM PDT by CecilRhodesGhost
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The opinion (a .pdf file; Adobe Acrobat required)
45 posted on 06/26/2002 11:35:25 AM PDT by GeneD
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To: phasma proeliator
....will the public sit and allow this to happen? Likely YES - because we have turned in to a country where political correctness rules over dignity, freedom, and respect.

Someone said that "THEY" have put a Tu Tu on Uncle Sam.

:(

46 posted on 06/26/2002 11:35:30 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Smedley
The 9th has the WORST record of being overturned.
47 posted on 06/26/2002 11:35:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Recovering_Democrat
This is a stunning ruling.....
48 posted on 06/26/2002 11:36:18 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Hacksaw
Freedom of religion in the US today means that you are free to practice religion as long as noone else notices.

Don't ask, don't tell. It's not really discrimination...

49 posted on 06/26/2002 11:36:20 AM PDT by cracker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
11:29 PDT (AP) -- The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a 1954 act of Congress inserting the phrase "under God" after the words "one nation" in the pledge. The court said the phrase violates the so-called Establishment Clause in the Constitution that requires a separation of church and state. "A profession that we are a nation `under God' is identical, for Establishment Clause purposes, to a profession that we are a nation `under Jesus,' a nation `under Vishnu,' a nation `under Zeus,' or a nation `under no god,' because none of these professions can be neutral with respect to religion," Judge Alfred T. Goodwin wrote for the three-judge panel.

So, the pledge was not declared unconstitutional (whatever that would mean), they simply struck the words "under god".

What about the above reasoning do you find unbelievable?

50 posted on 06/26/2002 11:36:22 AM PDT by mlo
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To: cracker
Are you Freepers willing to lose everything for a few entrenched traitors? How much more of this will it take to get ALL fo us to become active to the cause ---that doesn't mean E-Mails.
51 posted on 06/26/2002 11:36:27 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Pledge Declared Unconstitutional

By DAVID KRAVETS

Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that the Pledge of Allegiance is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and cannot be recited in schools.

52 posted on 06/26/2002 11:36:35 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Recovering_Democrat
It should be overturned by the Supreme Court.."In God WE Trust"...sw
53 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:15 AM PDT by spectre
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I honestly thought this was a joke when I first read it. It is not. This is PATHETIC. Where is America heading? This is just crazy....unbelievable
54 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:17 AM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Triple
I don't care if someone found it in a box of CrackerJacks. The Pledge is very well worded and has the true meaning of patriotism. It should be required of every person that attempts to become a citizen of our great nation.

There is no pledge to others, no pledge to any community or collective. It is to the very republic that guarantees you your liberty.....

55 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:31 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
Shhh...we need to maintain the illusion that the "under God" segment was in the original pledge as written by its socialist author and not later inserted at the opposition of his family in order to create a symbolic mark against "godless communism". That way people who oppose "under God" sound even worse.
56 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:36 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Tai_Chung
immigrants
57 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:48 AM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: Sabertooth
Saber....I am speachless. Nay, totally disgusted. The hell with the 9th Circuit. They suck.
58 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:57 AM PDT by beowolf
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To: Recovering_Democrat
9th Circuit Court Web Site:

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/
59 posted on 06/26/2002 11:37:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What next?.....Will they strike all reference to the CREATOR on the Declaration of Independence?

Our nation was founded by men who were shaped by Judeo-Christianity....these PC judicial wackos are trying to destroy the very foundations of our nation.

60 posted on 06/26/2002 11:38:03 AM PDT by JulieRNR21
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