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Email: The Future of Free Republic
Email | 06/25/02 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/25/2002 3:42:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

The following email is being circulated to our members by various disgruntled former FReepers:

Subject: The Future of Our Free Republic

Dear Fellow Free Republic Member,

Many of us at Free Republic are distressed by the extraordinary level of censorship that has been so obviously going on. It is very obvious that individual posts, entire threads, and the entire work of members who have been highly regarded are disappearing into a Memory Hole.

Scores of us have organized an e-mail network that is independent of the communication controls presently, and sadly, being used at our Free Republic. We have carefully documented the unmistakeable evidence that most of the posts, threads, and posters that are vaporized completely are overwhelmingly targeted for their political stance on the Right. These are not Leftwingers. These are not even Middle-of-the-Roaders. These are not disruptors. These are not foul-mouthed delinquents. These are fellow patriots on the Right who disagree with the controllers of FR on specific issues that are now hotly debated by the Right. We have documented that FR will parade before you, as if to hide all of the great posters whose work has been destroyed, a straw-man delinquent that has been banned. This is deceptive.

Treating these fellow patriots on the Right so shabbily is not right. As shabbily as those banned into the Memory Hole are being treated, the most shabbily treated of all are all of the good folks on Free Republic themselves. We came here for honest debate. Free Republic advertised itself as a Forum for honest debate. Without that honest debate...everything at Free Republic becomes shabby.

We can do much better. As a measure of how intense the simmering feelings have gotten among members on this unjustifiable use of deleting, censoring, and banning please link to the following thread. You will notice that one simple and sincere plea from one of our finest members has spontaneously touched off a prairie fire of approximately 500 posts in a mere 18 hours. If it isn't Memory Holed this thread may shoot into the thousands.

If you would like to receive anonymous updates of information concerning the hundreds of Freepers who have networked via e-mail to restore the wonderful honest debate to Free Republic, just drop an e-mail of just one or two words if you like for extreme brevity to:

StopCensoringUs@hotmail.com

And, here's that link back to the snowballing thread at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/704701/posts

Thank you so much for giving your thought to this vital matter for our Internet home.

Sincerely, StopCensoringUs@hotmail.com



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To: Jim Robinson
Wow. A lot of familiar names over there. I was invited to join their forum months ago. I never bothered to look at it. It is sort of funny. The remind me of the People's Front of Judea from Monty Python's Life of Brian. Complain, complain, complain.
101 posted on 06/25/2002 6:12:44 AM PDT by Huck
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To: sneakypete
I don't think this is what the forum founders wanted...

I think this is fair to say as true. I received an invitation to make posts in a libertarian-leaning forum. That is what it was for a while. Now every other post is about the Jews it seems.

I do not blame Free Republic. LF and FR are their own sites, but it is a testament to FR's popularity that it has enough enemies to swamp our little site. :\

102 posted on 06/25/2002 6:12:46 AM PDT by Liberal Classic
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To: AppyPappy; Jim Robinson
I quit going to the drug threads because of the temper tantrums. You can't talk to those people rationally.

I left the religion forum for the same reason. And, admittedly, I threw a few tantrums of my own over there. But I was accomplishing nothing - even on the "good" days.

103 posted on 06/25/2002 6:13:16 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: pt17
In fact, FR is quite tolerant of diverse ideas and opinions.

As long as you're fully heterosexual.

When that changes, and when the "banned for" list shortens to those who are being disruptive of the actions of discussion -- and does NOT include the substance of discussion -- I will donate to FreeRepublic directly. (As distinguished from the FR Legal Defense Fund.) Not until then.

104 posted on 06/25/2002 6:13:24 AM PDT by Greybird
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To: Corin Stormhands
I stay out of Confederate threads for the exact same reasons.
105 posted on 06/25/2002 6:13:57 AM PDT by Liberal Classic
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To: Jim Robinson
Heck, it can't be too bad....

...I'm still here.

Thank you, Jim. : )

106 posted on 06/25/2002 6:14:10 AM PDT by ST.LOUIE1
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To: Rodney King
I have lost track. I haven't battled him in a while. They are a vicious group of the banned. Reminds me of a horror story.
107 posted on 06/25/2002 6:14:56 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: RaceBannon
I do not see the major censoship people speak of.

Couldn't agree more. Those that have been banished went out of their way to procure that result.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

108 posted on 06/25/2002 6:15:57 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Jim Robinson
The vast majority of FReepers have never been banned, never been suspended, never had a post pulled, and never had a moderator send them a warning message.

Ooh! I'm ahead of the curve, then, having had a post yanked and gotten a warning message. It was an unfailingly polite and well-reasoned message, though, so perhaps it doesn't count.

109 posted on 06/25/2002 6:16:11 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: TLBSHOW
Moo.
110 posted on 06/25/2002 6:17:09 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Physicist
It was an unfailingly polite and well-reasoned message, though, so perhaps it doesn't count.

But it apparently challenged someone's thinking process.

111 posted on 06/25/2002 6:18:57 AM PDT by OWK
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To: dennisw
Anti Jewish and anti Israel posters there express themselves pretty much any which way they want.

So what? I can see your point on the "anti-Jew" posters,as these people seem to pretty much be "one-note Nellies",and any thread they start is a automatic waste of time. As for the "anti-Israel" posters,what's wrong with that? This is a web site primarily used by Americans to promote America and American ideals. Sometimes these may be the same as Israel ideals,but not always.

If anybody here are a "Israeli-Firsters" instead of "American-Firsters",maybe they should start their own site or find a site without so many Americans posting on it? Israel may be our ally sometimes,but we ain't joined at the hip.

112 posted on 06/25/2002 6:21:17 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Jim Robinson
Indeed, they seem to think that you owe them something...that we all owe them something. Their sense of entitlement is irrational.

I certainly have posted comments on here that would have been 'censored' by many, many more websites. A person who accuses FreeRepublic of censorship is simply not grounded in reality.

113 posted on 06/25/2002 6:22:31 AM PDT by fogarty
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To: Miss Marple
Ever sign one of the petitions that get posted by users, and give your email in doing? About any issue? Maybe Klamath? Maybe CFR? Maybe anything?
114 posted on 06/25/2002 6:25:22 AM PDT by Dales
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To: sneakypete
I stated fact. This is the way it is over there at LF. It's a free country and this is their "thing". That so called libertarian forum is 50% libertarian and 50% Jew/Israel bashing. This is fact. Goodbye.
115 posted on 06/25/2002 6:25:54 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Physicist
You? Yanked? No.
116 posted on 06/25/2002 6:26:11 AM PDT by Taliesan
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To: guitfiddlist
Jim and his moderators would like to state that they do not tolerate any kind of genocide or racist statements, and that they were all out taking a leak when these "kill-all-muslims" posts made it onto the board. They would further like to state that all posters are quite equal at Free Republic, and that in fact, in a major step forward for the concept of Equality, some are even way more equal than others.

Not fair. When I see stuff like that on FR, I report it, and every time it gets yanked post-haste. Every time. But it's like playing whack-a-mole: the posts keep popping up and the moderators can't be everywhere. They need us to point out the dog-doo before they can scoop it up. So if you see a steaming pile lying there for more than a few minutes, it's YOUR FAULT for not calling it to their attention, because if you had, it would be gone. Versteh?

117 posted on 06/25/2002 6:26:15 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Huck
This really gets em,

FReerepublic is the #1 conservative News Forum on the net.


118 posted on 06/25/2002 6:26:25 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: leadpenny
What I find fascinating is that we see them trying to sneak back into FR.

That's the part I don't get,either.

120 posted on 06/25/2002 6:29:05 AM PDT by sneakypete
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