Posted on 06/23/2002 10:23:26 AM PDT by John H K
Interesting this becomes Drudge's Headline right after I get involved in the silly "New Madrid" thread.
Basically, what sets me off so badly is people claiming to be religious blatantly LYING; from websites I've read, most of the posts about it on FR, apocalpytics repeatedly and profusely lie and fabricate about various aspects of the world being uniquely bad now or recently compared to the past.
Most common, and easily proven wrong, is the incessant garbage relating to earthquakes and volcanoes; which can be shown, beyond a shadow of a doubt, NOT to have increased in number or severity at any point recently or in any recent time period you care to name.
But applies to most anything else, including world violence, wars, etc...nothing remotely unusual now compared to history; the current violence in the Middle East is trivial compared to what we've seen in the history of the world, or even the history of the Middle East going back to the beginning of recorded history.
Pretty pathetic if the only way you can be interested in God or religion or just being a good person is if you believe the Apocalypse might be in a few years; a truly religious person would act the same if they knew for certain it would be 1 million years from now. I know you see some, but I can't understand why you don't see more respectable relgious types publicly coming out against this garbage and religious mental masturbation like the "Left Behind" series.
Finally, proves my suspicion that a heck of a lot of people are HOPING for more terrorist attacks, and seemingly are upset every day one doesn't happen or some rumor or threat doesn't pan out, and are ROOTING for World War III...guy in the article comes out and admits it. I had thought it was merely people desperate to find an excuse to hate all Muslims/Arabs more, but it seems more clear to me now it's also largely really nutty Apocalpytics.
Why would someone come on FR, bash Christians, and cut-and-paste Time Magazine? We come to FR to get AWAY from bs like that.
I really don't think this is the place for Christian-hating. If you don't like what has been given to you in this Christian nation, just enjoy it and be quiet, or go start one of your own. Or just wait, I guess---the Time Magazine, Christian-haters are busy, with your help, changing the USA into the theocracy-of-the-left and the religion of post-modernism. So I guess it is the Americans who will have to go find another country.
Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality...the nature of man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...stable scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral change improvemet/reform!
Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY...
Atheist secular materialists through evolution removed the foundations...made the absolutes relative and calling all technology/science === evolution to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC!
Liberals/Evolution BELIEVE they are the conservatives--guardians too!
Hypnotism--witchraft ideology--politics--religion--BRAINWASHING--superstition--BIAS---EVOLUTION!
Good News For The Day
‘But I say to all of you: In the future, you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the mighty One.’ (Matthew 26:64)
"If the universe is moral, (and the fact that such a person as Christ existed, is strong evidence that it is), then what Jesus said about himself and the future, must come true. If morality has an infinite source, and backing, then the moral excellence of Christ will ultimately... triumph---over evil."
"I know some very agreeable people. I know some that I would call gentle giants. But their easygoing spirit is never a threat to greed and corruption. Kindness, patience, understanding, and love are not better than envy and bitterness, if they only ever exist as counterweights to their opposites. A good man who is content to coexist forever with badness, and wrong, cannot be a good man in any absolute sense."
"The goodness of Jesus is surpassing because he not only sorrowed over sin, and was outraged by it, he set himself against it, and warned his enemies that by suffering for it, he would rise above it, and eliminate it."
"If our universe is a moral one, then Jesus' values can never be viewed in any offhand way. Rather, he must be seen as a hazard to every act, motive, system, institution, or law, that is not in sympathy with him. A question that governments and their constituents ought to ask is: Are we making laws; invoking policies that clash with Christ and the direction of his Spirit? If so we are building badly. The universe itself will not back us. The future belongs to Christ-and to all who follow him."
Good News For The Day
‘The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone.’ (Luke 20:17)
"The most familiar, and the best-loved images of Jesus, are those that picture to us, his gentle, compassionate spirit. "Whoever comes to me, I will in no wise cast out"; "Come to me, all you who are weary"; "Let the little children come to me."
"But there are other images of Jesus in the Gospels, which show another aspect of his personality. They emphasize the steel in him. Sometimes Jesus was awesome; formidable."
"In the parable, Jesus presents himself as the landlord's Son; the rejected stone, that eventually becomes the most important stone in the superstructure of the kingdom of God. Jesus plainly thought that those who opposed him were in collision with God. He was warning nation's leaders: "It is unwise and unsafe to be against me." Tough talk from Jesus! He was signaling what was taken up by Peter at Pentecost, where, full of resurrection joy and authority, he preached saying: "This Jesus, you put him to death. . . . but God raised him from the dead. God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ" (Acts 2:31-36).
"In the parable of the wicked tenants, Jesus teaches that those who discard him, will not thereby have gotten rid of him. Jesus was not, and is not now, a passing phenomenon. So truly does Jesus represent reality; so deeply entrenched in the ultimate truth of existence, is his life and teaching, that He, and not his opponents, will prevail. If the universe is a moral place (and Christ himself is the most convincing evidence that it is), then his prediction that he would triumph, even over those who killed him, must come true. Therefore let us treasure the august aspects of his personality, as much as his gentle features, for they signal a world order in which 'goodness', as Jesus taught it, will... reign---unopposed. The stone that was rejected, will become the capstone."
and then they go on their merry way to the bank, as though nothing happened. Strangely enough, their deluded followers keep coming back for more.
Apocalyptic hysteria is an addictive psychic poison that cripples a man in the core of his confidence. Blessed are they who escape its clutches.
I am a Trinitarian, soul-winning, spirit-filled Christian of the Reformed pursuasion.
I will fight apocalyptic lunacy 'til my dying day. My home-educated children will, by God's grace, carry on the fight well into the 22nd century by training their children to trust God for victory, instead of the antichrist for defeat.
Matthew 24:42-51: "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Be prepared always. If you are prepared, then it will not matter to you when the time comes.
BUY GOLD!..........;-)
And that place will be a place of safety chosen by God (biblically called Petra) where Gods children will be called to and reside in safety during the great tribulation. God will not let his true undecieved Church die, he has given us that promise. But only if we follow ALL of his laws and commandments, repent of our Sins, do his works, and have true faith in this truth. Only after the return of Christ at the end of the 3 1/2 years will we then as 1st fruits be eligible to become the Bride of Christ in the Kingdom of God.
Good post....Vanman
I knew the Aliens were involved. More seriously, the most irresponsible thing about this whole phenomena is the active interest of fundamentalists in egging on a World War to get themselves Raptured. If they're wrong, they're gonna have to join the rest of us in cleaning up one helluva mess they'll have created.
I used to believe all this stuff when Hal Lindsay was writing about it. I used to go see him speak at a very small Palos Verdes high school gym - doubling as a church. After awhile - it became obvious that the man was a complete charlatan, who shamelessly re-translated Greek and Hebrew phrases to twist biblical passages to "prophesy" the momentary political crises of the day. "..I discovered on further linguistic analyis, that the Hebrew word for "laden camel", also means InterContinental Ballistic Missile with MIRV capability!" - and so on.
And so now we have a new set of authors, picking up the slack. The more things change...the more change they rake in.
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