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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

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To: Theodore R.
"Re-Elect Bush At Least He's Not Clinton! "

I think many people would like to think that.

501 posted on 06/22/2002 6:12:44 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh gee, whatever we do let's not look for a conservative.

Who do you recommend?

502 posted on 06/22/2002 6:13:03 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Right now I'd go for Tancredo, Paul, Barr possibly Watts. Whichever proves that they care more about this nation that the next guy will do just fine.
503 posted on 06/22/2002 6:16:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Texasforever; Theodore R.
"I wil ask you. Who should replace Bush, regardless of party?"

Theodore, when you said that someone would say, "Re-Elect Bush At Least He's Not Clinton!," it didn't take long for Texasforever to echo that very sentiment.

Texasforever, how about Micky Mouse?

504 posted on 06/22/2002 6:16:38 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: jeremiah
Well it doesn't. Try again, please. Or paste it here.
505 posted on 06/22/2002 6:17:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: jla
these conservatives?

That is easy. The eternally teed off. The Birchers, the Brownies, the Pitchforkers, etc. You know, the "conservatives" that never saw a silver lining without a cloud.

506 posted on 06/22/2002 6:17:59 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: DoughtyOne
What do you care who's running. Aren't you going to sit at home anyway?
507 posted on 06/22/2002 6:18:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I'm not high and mighty on NC, just making observations. As far as Michigan is concerned I'm doing all I can to help change things by getting involved helping local candidates. As far as the Michigan Senate race, it appears that the Michigan GOP goes for the candidates that have "earned" the run rather than whether they are capable of winning the seat or not. This mentality will more than likely lose us the Governorship too. But I've volunteered to help. That's all I can do.
508 posted on 06/22/2002 6:19:27 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Don Myers
And what, pray tell, is wrong with Mickey Mouse? he's been a strong write-in contender for as long as I can remember.

509 posted on 06/22/2002 6:19:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Torie; All
I have a question for you Torie and I mean absolutely no offense by it. I'm very curious, and would like to have a full understanding of not only your view, but the view of other moderate Republicans on FR.

What does a moderate, such as yourself, happy with the status quo, hope to contribute to an independent, grass roots, conservative, website, working to roll back decades of governmental largess, root out political fraud, corruption, and championing causes which further conservatism in America?

What is the message you would like conservatives to glean from you, what do you hope to contribue to our thinking, and what do you take away from the FR experience as a moderate?

People, such as myself, that hold deeply conservative principles realize that we have no longer have a home in the Republican Party. Carl Rove went to California and said so in plain English. "If conservatives cannot adapt to the new "Big Tent" political platform of the new Compassionate Conservative Republican Party, they should leave". There is a war raging in the Republican Party right now in California, between conservatives such as myself, and a man, Bush, who, with his cohorts have high jacked the Republican Party and are running with it to the far left of Democrats, something that may never be repaired.

I don't think this fact has hit moderates, such as yourself, yet. Many of you will be satisfied with the doppleganger replacement Republican Party. And perhaps this tactic will work for Bush and socialist Republicans. Perhaps the vaccancy left by conservatives, such as myself, will be filled with the left, the moderate, and minorities. It's a gamble on his part for sure. But I don't think it's very kewl of moderates to slam conservatives that see the situation clearly and resent the smug tone in D.C. that says "Who are you going to vote for Gore?", I wouldn't take talk like that from a man I was madly in love with, much less some pizzzant political party.

So we part company on Bush, I see him as death on a pale horse to the Republican Party's conservative base. While I don't have an answer as to how to fix this mess, other than writing in who I feel best represents my views, I don't see how lying to myself about the facts is going to do a thing to further conservative causes, nor do I see how compromising my conservative principles is going to futher conservatism.

510 posted on 06/22/2002 6:20:18 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Texasforever
Bush........ 47.87
Gore.........48.38
Buchanan..... 0.43
Hagelin..... 0.08
Nader........2.73
Browne...... 0.09


Bush/Gore .. 96.35%
Others .......3.65%
511 posted on 06/22/2002 6:20:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DoughtyOne
Right now I'd go for Tancredo, Paul, Barr possibly Watts

Then start a draft of one or all three and educate FR about their qualifications.

512 posted on 06/22/2002 6:20:29 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Howlin
And what would you care? I do admit that it's nice of you to act like it though. Sortof a wasted exercise I guess.
513 posted on 06/22/2002 6:21:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Texasforever
Gosh that's nice of you. Are you my father now or just a trusted friend?
514 posted on 06/22/2002 6:21:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Texasforever
I enjoyed the link on your profile page....

HOW TRYANNY CAME TO AMERICA

I quote:  "Let me say it yet again: The rights of the people come from God. The powers of government come from the people. The American people delegated the specific powers they wanted the federal government to have through the Constitution. And any additional powers they wanted to grant were supposed to be added by amendment.

It’s largely because we’ve forgotten these simple principles that the country is in so much trouble. The powers of the federal government have multiplied madly, with only the vaguest justifications and on the most slippery pretexts. Its chief business now is not defending our rights but taking and redistributing our wealth. It has even created its own economy, the tax economy, which is parasitical on the basic and productive voluntary economy."

515 posted on 06/22/2002 6:22:35 PM PDT by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: Jim Robinson
I would vote for Micky Mouse, He is my "man."
516 posted on 06/22/2002 6:22:59 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh, I don't care. I just wondered why you were here going on and on about who would/would not run or who you would or would not vote for when you already said you were gonna sit home.
517 posted on 06/22/2002 6:24:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Don Myers
"Re-Elect Bush At Least He's Not Clinton!," it didn't take long for Texasforever to echo that very sentiment.

There were 9 GOP candidates in the primaries. They were involved in 12 debates. Bush won the primaries. There were 3 "major conservative" 3rd party candidates in the general election they got less than 5% total votes and NO electoral votes. All I am asking is if we are to throw off Bush then at least have some idea of how to do it beyond giving the entire government to the democrats.

518 posted on 06/22/2002 6:24:36 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
I trust that we have the commonsense. We always did. It's just that a poor candidate won't get the necessary votes to win. Reagan won two landslides. When he was gone, suddenly the GOP experts decided that a conservative can't win an election. Their liberal candidates haven't done well at all.
519 posted on 06/22/2002 6:24:48 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Texasforever
"All I am asking is if we are to throw off Bush then at least have some idea of how to do it beyond giving the entire government to the democrats."

Texas, the left has the government now.

520 posted on 06/22/2002 6:26:33 PM PDT by Don Myers
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