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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: quidnunc
You, and the Republican Party in general, will rue the day when the 'dogmatists' in this fold are truly disaffected.

You can call conservatives names all you like, but don't pretend you are doing the GOP (or FR for that matter) any good when you do it...you're not.

161 posted on 06/22/2002 1:49:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: al_possum39
Don't they have ignore buttons in chat rooms??

Why yes they do.

But of course I was always under the impression that FR was more than a mere chatroom.

162 posted on 06/22/2002 1:51:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
You can call conservatives names all you like, but don't pretend you are doing the GOP (or FR for that matter) any good when you do it...you're not.

Amen.

163 posted on 06/22/2002 1:59:00 PM PDT by al_possum39
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To: Admin Moderator; Registered
An ignore function is like a little kid putting is fingers in his ears and going "La la la la la la I'm not listening!"

And since this is posted:

then I must be fair and balanced:


164 posted on 06/22/2002 2:01:13 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: quidnunc
Hmm...Well, look: in the end when I'm in the voting booth in 2004, I'm going to vote not for the man but for what he stands for and what he's done. I'm tired of being told that if I don't vote for Bush, we'll get Gore or Hillary. I'm tired of people in the RNC figuring people like me in their electoral base have "no place else to go," and therefore I should "grin and bear it" while spending explodes, immigration continues out of control, political correctness advances in its dry rot of our public mentality, oafs like Ted Kennedy get schmoozed, the Clintons get a "free treason & corruption pass," etc. I don't want to be taken for granted, and so I'm not going to be harangued back into line if GW starts going sideways on conservatives the way his father did. YOU toe the line, GW--and that way I'll stay in line.
165 posted on 06/22/2002 2:01:55 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: christine11
Thanks for that hypnotic ping!
166 posted on 06/22/2002 2:03:59 PM PDT by jla
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To: quidnunc
I don't like Buchanan personally either. My model is Pinochet crush the left by any means neccasary.
167 posted on 06/22/2002 2:04:46 PM PDT by weikel
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To: quidnunc
They are irksome, but the racket they make is out of all proportion to their actual numbers — like tree frogs. The whingers (a little British lingo there) may be safely disregarded.

Then you don't mind if "we" sit out the next election or vote third party, right?

C. Corday, whinger

168 posted on 06/22/2002 2:05:51 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: Tabitha Soren
The fact of the matter is that President Bush ran for office claiming to be a pro-life candidate. And yet he has done absolutely nothing to help the millions of innocent babies who are being murdered in cold blood on a daily basis.

And just what is he supposed to have done, given a "stirring" speech to show you he's on your side. Everytyhing else depends on the Congress and the courts. This isnt a totalitarian state.

169 posted on 06/22/2002 2:08:58 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Sir Gawain
Great graphic, I don't think that dustpan is nearly big enough though. A couple more years of compassionate conservatism and she's likely to be driving one of these:


170 posted on 06/22/2002 2:11:19 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: quidnunc
That was an interesting read. Thanks for posting. I think the key point he made is right here:

Don't they realize that controlling their party is fruitless if they cannot elect anyone?
171 posted on 06/22/2002 2:12:18 PM PDT by summer
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To: EternalVigilance
It will be a sad day for FR, and for our Republic, when and if this crowd has the upper hand

Maybe you should consider what you're saying about Jim and John Robinson when you say that. If you believe that to be true, perhaps you're the one in the wrong place.

172 posted on 06/22/2002 2:13:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: JustSayNoNWO
However, no matter how much this President "dips in" to the Democratic Liberal agengda...The Dem's will not be satisfied and only want MORE consessions. Strong Conservative support elected Bush, and I too fear he is loosing his "grassroots" due to the onslaught of Liberal policies.

Youre setting up a red herring. When Bush moves to the left, he's not doing it to appeal to the Dems. They are beyond any appeals he could make. What he is doing is going after the moderates/independents/non ideologial pragmatists that decide presidential elections.

173 posted on 06/22/2002 2:14:20 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: John Robinson; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; tpaine; OWK; ThomasJefferson; AAABEST; Loopy; ...
An ignore function is a bad idea. But I can understand. Jim and the mods are probably getting tired of being overwhelmed by whiners that constantly hit abuse and cry because someone they don't agree with is posting to them and FR is not what they want it to be. Too many thin skinned and immature people around here. If everyone were a) mature and b) not such crybabies, FR wouldn't need moderators.

If everyone agreed on here it would be boring as hell, to me anyway. I must question the motives of people that wish to silence or ignore dissenting voices within the conservative spectrum of thought.

174 posted on 06/22/2002 2:14:58 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: EternalVigilance
after all, their vision of FR is to make it a pep rally, instead of what it has always been; a place to promote conservative ideals.

Well, we can't all be self-serving, self-promoting, pontificating posters.

175 posted on 06/22/2002 2:16:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: quidnunc
Mr. Roeser, please stop speaking the truth. And stop making sense. Don't you know that it's rude to state the obvious?

How dare you offend my oh-so-perfect conservative credentials and principles. It must be my way or the highway, or I'm not going to the polls on election day. The other side may run over this whole nation, but at least I can puff out my chest and say, "I didn't vote!" And why didn't I vote you ask? Simple. I didn't vote because there wasn't a candidate that agreed with 100% of what I think is right. Therefore, no one reserved my vote.

I don't want 60%. Don't want 70%. Heck, I don't even want 90% of what I think needs to be done. It's 100% or nothing.

176 posted on 06/22/2002 2:18:43 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Sir Gawain
Hard to imagine why post 164 was deleted (it can't possibly be this lovely graphic)...

Graphic (apparently) by Registered

177 posted on 06/22/2002 2:18:59 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: quidnunc
OK, here is a challange, I'll list all the issues I have with Bush, the liberal things he has done, and you list the conservative actions he has taken. Ready??? go....

1. Stem cell Research
2. His speech all but inviting illegals to come.
3. CFR
4. Steel Tariff
5. 245i, tried to sneak that through twice.
6. Kept all of Clinton's EO's, especially the land grabbing ones
7. No investigation into Clinton misdeeds.
8. Lied about the trashing of the White House
9. Waffling on Terrorism: this is could be listed 10,11,12. but for sake of argument I will list them a, b, c, under 9.

a. Kissing up to the Saudi's allowing them to call the tune.
b. Telling Isreal to end their war on terror and just die.
c. The insanity of considering a Palestinian State.

10. 10 billion extra dollars to the U.N. on top of the 58 they claim we owe in back dues.
11. Not vetoing our re-funding of UNESCO so our money can be used to upgrade beautiful downtown Havanna, Cuba.
12. Under no pressure from anyone, revoking part of Welfare Reform Act and throwing immigrant welfare on the backs of tax payers instead of the sponser's that sign an affidavit to support them.
13. Home Land Security, a dangerous joke thrown together to look busy which threatens citizens civil liberties while refusing to protect our borders, profile Arabs, stop visa's to Terrorist nations, require the Saudi's to submit a passenger list, or curb immigration from terrorist nations. Maybe I should have done the a,b,c, thing, but what the heck.
14. Placing the EPA in direct competition with private buyers for choice land by giving the seller a 25% break on his capital gains taxes.
15. Vows to strictly enforce gun laws on the books, many of which are unconsitutional.
16. Hasn't veto'ed one item yet threatens to veto funds to disabled American Vets.
17. The Farm Bill
18. Disarming our missile systems, unilaterally.
19. Stood up for racial quota's while demanding there be no racial profiling of people from the Mideast at airports.

You want me to keep going or have you had enough? I don't care if you support Bush, that's your choice, I'm tired of the bashing of clear eyed people because they see him for what he is. The lame statement, "their just mad because he doesn't do everything they want", how about the truth, he does NOTHING conservatives want. He's batting zero with alot of good people and it doesn't make them the DU underground movement, it doesn't make them whiney babies, it doesn't make them Gore supporters, and it darn sure doesn't make them "ignorant of how politics work".

If you want me to add more to this list, just let me know, I can go on and on, downpayments for minority housing, no guns for pilots in the cockpit. I can't wait to see your list.

178 posted on 06/22/2002 2:19:10 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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I wonder if it would be possible to get these comments sent to my freepmail prior to being removed? Controversy never did frighten me much. Probably some of the more interesting posts anyway. I promise not to repost them. Just curious!  ;^)

179 posted on 06/22/2002 2:19:20 PM PDT by sinclair
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To: Charlotte Corday; Admin Moderator; Registered
Amazingly, the "whiners" graphic gets to stay. Can you say "Double Standard"? I knew you could.
180 posted on 06/22/2002 2:20:29 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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