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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: B. A. Conservative
I understand and sympathize with your thinking, but I hope you will read my posts on this thread and reconsider your thinking. As long as Republicans can take the conservative vote for granted, they are free to court moderates and liberals. It will be the agenda of liberals that will be enacted, not ours.

it IS the agenda of the liberals being enacted. it's seamless government from one administration to the next, seems to me.

1,301 posted on 06/23/2002 8:54:44 AM PDT by christine
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To: 1rudeboy
The RNC shouldn't have anointed anyone. Why have a primary if the party's ruling committee is going to endorse one candidate over another?

It looks suspiciously as though Dole was ready to retire and he was given the nod both as a soft pitch to Clinton and as a way of letting Dole get to keep the millions in campaign funds he had saved in his war chest. Nobody in his right mind could have thought that conservatives would vote for Dole in any great numbers. I don't thnk the RNC fatboys are stupid in that particular way.
1,302 posted on 06/23/2002 8:58:57 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Amelia
"I agree, the problem is the majority of the American people have bought into this socialism thing to one degree or another.

They may not want it all, but they want some of it...whether it's education, health care, retirement, disability insurance....they think the Federal government ought to do it, and if the GOP tries to cut the funds they are seen as "mean-spirited"."

Americans have not bought into socialism. Most continue to despise socialism in any form. The problem is economic. The socialists have grown government so much that government confiscates so much of a family's resources that they are struggling to cope with their own financial needs. Government steals their time and their money. Time theft is accomplished through the many forms to be filled out, and through the myriad rules and regulations that make it impossible to get anything done.

The reason it takes two earner families is because the burdens of government confiscates the wages of the second to pay the taxes declared on the earnings of the first. It is obscene to think that government is entitled to part of a family's income. And politicians then buy the votes of their constituents by promising to give part of their wages back to them for this or that purpose. The Income Tax constitutes involuntary servitude. By any name, it is still slavery.

Those who do not think TERM LIMITS are essential, simply do not understand the problem.

1,303 posted on 06/23/2002 9:01:07 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: Twodees
Most people send their children to public schools.
1,304 posted on 06/23/2002 9:03:43 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: blackie
"GWB needs no "productive suggestions"

I respectfully yet passionately disagree, my FRiend...MUD

1,305 posted on 06/23/2002 9:07:14 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: MissAmericanPie
I have no problem with you or anyone else pursuing your political ideology, and supporting a candidate that better represents your core beliefs, that's the right of every American citizen. I do have a problem with those who think that the way to exercise their right to support their choice of candidate for political office is to demean, slam, and defile those who exercise that identical right and make the choice to remain within the Party. It shows a weakness in their ideology, a weakness expressed by the inability to attract supporters to their candidate of choice simply based on the merits of his (or her) platform.

I also take issue with those who believe that the way to win, is to lose. Or those who fail to understand that splitting the conservatives will result in a string of victories for Liberals. That's just a fact, and they need to deal with it.

Those who leave the battlefield with the battle joined, then blame the ones left behind for the losses, are hypocrites.

Reagan did not join the Republican Party in order to somehow secure future victories for the Democrats, did he?

1,306 posted on 06/23/2002 9:09:23 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: AAABEST; Texasforever
EEEsh, RBA just informed me you're a chick! God I wish you chicks would take chick screen names, I do this all the time. Forget everything I said sweetcheeks, you have my apologies.

I knew Texasforever is a male.

1,307 posted on 06/23/2002 9:10:26 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Roscoe
"Well the question was who's fault was it that the voters elected Clinton twice? And I repeat, I have no idea, but I hope we're smart enough not to let it happen again.

But somehow I doubt that some of the third party people posting on this thread care much one way or the other."
--Jim Robinson




Isn't the best way to handle dissenting opinion, to rebutt it rather than to silence it?
Or is it possible that some of the dissenting opinion makes people a bit too uncomfortable about their own opinions, and therefore you yeild to calls for the delete button for nothing more than strongly held and expressed dissent?
The Jim I used to know, wasn't afraid to defend his views, and he expected others to do likewise.
This continuous game of Bushbot whack-a-mole is ruining your website.
1270 by OWK




Thanks for proving his point.
1274 - roscoe




--- As usual roseco, you are confused.
OWK was commenting on JR's second comment/sentence of the above. - And the fact that he then silenced the respondent.

--- If you're gonna take on the domOrgan role here at FR, please try to at least keep up on who is making what point.
1,308 posted on 06/23/2002 9:13:03 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: MissAmericanPie
To be more accurate Reagan said, "I didn't leave my Party, my Party left me".

In the 60's. Men change. Reagan for the better. There is still time for many others, too.

1,309 posted on 06/23/2002 9:15:48 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: tpaine
Do the third party zealots posting on this thread care much one way or the other?
1,310 posted on 06/23/2002 9:19:27 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: quidnunc
Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether.

Blanket statement , I hate them...

I just so happen to be a Contractor that works out in the heat and cold year round..

1,311 posted on 06/23/2002 9:22:22 AM PDT by The Mayor
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To: Roscoe
Is silencing them the best way to handle their comments?
1,312 posted on 06/23/2002 9:22:27 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Those who leave the battlefield with the battle joined, then blame the ones left behind for the losses, are hypocrites.

I'm afraid that there are a lot of egomaniacs who think that if they aren't calling the shots then the battle isn't worth fighting.

1,313 posted on 06/23/2002 9:24:11 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Twodees
Nobody in his right mind could have thought that conservatives would vote for Dole in any great numbers. I don't thnk the RNC fatboys are stupid in that particular way.

But Bob Dole was "next".

1,314 posted on 06/23/2002 9:26:04 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: Roscoe
Speak for yourself, 'Mr Ego'.
1,315 posted on 06/23/2002 9:27:56 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Sometimes. There are those here who have been shown tremendous generosity, but who don't seem to appreciate it.
1,317 posted on 06/23/2002 9:28:43 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Twodees
The majority show me no signs at all of being in favor of socialism.

Actually, the majority of Americans think the major priorities of the Federal government, after the war on terrorism, should be education, health care, and social security. You might not like it, but there it is.

The majority of Americans won't SAY they are in favor of socialism, but they WILL say those are their top priorities for the FedGov.

The majority of Americans ARE social conservatives, but I'm not sure that they are economic conservatives.

What you're saying, stripped to its essence is that the majority of people are imbeciles who embrace what you oppose because they lack your superior discernment.

No, I'm saying they have a different view of the function of government. I do get the distinct impression that you feel those who disagree with you are imbeciles. But debating based on your feelings is a liberal tactic, is it not?

Saying that we've done this to ourselves and that we get the government we deserve is Hassayampa. This has been done to Americans by a bunch of amoral politicians who won't follow the rules laid out for them.

Like it or not, most of it has done with the approval of the American people, or there would have been such an outcry it would have necessarily been reversed.

Remove the insane level of taxation and regulation and people will begin to handle things on their own again.

That would be nice. I'd like to go back to the original idea that unless one paid taxes, one could not vote. It would remove at least some of the incentive for some people to vote for politicians who supported government redistribution of wealth.

1,318 posted on 06/23/2002 9:34:19 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Mudboy Slim
Muddy, you can disagree all you want, it will not change a thing... :o)

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

1,319 posted on 06/23/2002 9:39:51 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Roscoe
Is silencing them -[so-called 3rd party zealots]-
the best way to handle their comments?
1312 by tpaine




Sometimes.

There are those here who have been shown tremendous generosity, but who don't seem to appreciate it.
1317




-- Odd statement, roscoe. - Silencing dissent is a wise policy?
--- And 'allowing' free discussion is showing generosity?
---- Very majestic view of life, my boy. Are you part of FR royalty?
1,320 posted on 06/23/2002 9:45:34 AM PDT by tpaine
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