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To: Twodees
The majority show me no signs at all of being in favor of socialism.

Actually, the majority of Americans think the major priorities of the Federal government, after the war on terrorism, should be education, health care, and social security. You might not like it, but there it is.

The majority of Americans won't SAY they are in favor of socialism, but they WILL say those are their top priorities for the FedGov.

The majority of Americans ARE social conservatives, but I'm not sure that they are economic conservatives.

What you're saying, stripped to its essence is that the majority of people are imbeciles who embrace what you oppose because they lack your superior discernment.

No, I'm saying they have a different view of the function of government. I do get the distinct impression that you feel those who disagree with you are imbeciles. But debating based on your feelings is a liberal tactic, is it not?

Saying that we've done this to ourselves and that we get the government we deserve is Hassayampa. This has been done to Americans by a bunch of amoral politicians who won't follow the rules laid out for them.

Like it or not, most of it has done with the approval of the American people, or there would have been such an outcry it would have necessarily been reversed.

Remove the insane level of taxation and regulation and people will begin to handle things on their own again.

That would be nice. I'd like to go back to the original idea that unless one paid taxes, one could not vote. It would remove at least some of the incentive for some people to vote for politicians who supported government redistribution of wealth.

1,318 posted on 06/23/2002 9:34:19 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
You're absolutely wrong. Most Americans don't believe any such thing about the role of government, except a rather large minority of people who watch TV religiously. You're simply repeating what the medium of TV claims is the opinion of most people. According to them, most people are fascinated with the affairs of the British royals. I think that's such obvious nonsense as to be given no credence at all.

Most people I know don't approve of what government does. Of course you can pretend that I said I feel that people are imbeciles. What I said is still there for anyone to see, so you're doing yourself no favors by making delusional statements like that.

Outcries by the public are routinely ignored. The only outcry which occurs, according to our media, is that which they choose to report. You should know that.

I agree that voting is not a right, it's a privilege. My own view is that the 14th through 17th amendments should be rescinded or repealed. If they were indeed enacted without proper ratification as the argument goes, they should be rescinded. If they did pass ratification, they should be repealed, because those four amendments turn the design of government in the Constitution on its head and reverses the relationship between government and governed.

The 15th claims that voting is a right, and that no state can deny that "right" to anyone except those the federal government want to strip of the "right". This makes it impossible for the electoral system to be policed, which was the intention of the radical republicans who wrote the amendment.
1,345 posted on 06/23/2002 10:20:58 AM PDT by Twodees
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