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Warnings Before 1995 Oklahoma Bombing
AP Online via COMTEX ^ | June 20, 2002 | JOHN SOLOMON

Posted on 06/20/2002 12:04:19 AM PDT by grimalkin

WASHINGTON, Jun 20, 2002 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Just weeks before Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, U.S. intelligence and law enforcement received several warnings that Islamic terrorists were seeking to strike on American soil and that a likely target was government buildings, documents show.

The information, though it was never linked to McVeigh, was stark enough that the Clinton administration urged stepped up security patrols and screening at federal buildings nationwide, including those in Oklahoma.

The government, however, didn't fortify buildings with cement barriers like those hurriedly installed after McVeigh detonated his explosive-laden truck at the curb of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995, officials said.

Islamic extremists are determined to "strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future," said one warning obtained by The Associated Press.

The intelligence that prompted the warnings was gathered across the globe from Iran and Syria to the Philippines and became more specific as to the potential type attack (suicide bombing), target (government building) and likely date (after the third week in March 1995), the documents show.

The U.S. Marshal's Service issued an alert on March 15, 1995, to federal courthouses it protects, including the one in Oklahoma City across the street from where McVeigh's truck bomb killed 168 people, the documents show.

"Iranian extremists want it made clear that steps are being taken to strike at the Great Satan," a term used frequently in the Mideast to describe the United States, the marshal's memo said. It said a fatwa - a religious order - had been issued to attack marshals or their buildings.

"There is sufficient threat potential to request that a heightened level of security awareness and caution be implemented," the memo added.

Separately, the General Services Administration received a warning from the FBI and asked hundreds of federal buildings it operates to increase security details, including the Murrah building, officials said.

"We were told there was a fatwa threatening to target federal buildings," GSA spokeswoman Viki Reath said this week. "We increased our patrols to 12-hour shifts."

More than two dozen current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials interviewed by AP said the period of spring 1995 was a time of heightened "chatter" among terrorists seeking to strike the United States.

But the officials cautioned the FBI and CIA exhaustively investigated whether McVeigh could have been aided by Mideast terrorist and found no credible evidence linking him to any Islamic extremists, including those who prompted the 1995 warnings.

The information about 1995 emerges as a joint House-Senate panel examining the intelligence and law enforcement failures that preceded Sept. 11 has expanded its mission to look back at the late 1980s and 1990s.

John Gannon, former deputy CIA director for intelligence under President Clinton, said spring 1995 was one of a handful of periods in the 1990s when intelligence on terror threats peaked as the government increasingly turned its attention to Osama bin Laden and his emerging terrorist network.

Gannon said the 1995 warnings were plentiful enough that he initially assumed Islamic extremists had struck when the bomb exploded in Oklahoma City. Law enforcement too issued initial bulletins looking for Arab suspects and borrowed Arabic translators from the military.

"When I first heard about the Oklahoma bombing, the first reaction I had was I wonder if this were a foreign group that had done this or the Islamic extremists that had come up on our screen," Gannon said.

He said it was in 1998, after bin Laden issued a fatwa urging specific attacks on America and two U.S. embassies in Africa were bombed, that U.S. anti-terrorism efforts escalated markedly.

"If there was a watershed year, it was 1998. That significantly elevated our concern and resulted in a concerted effort, and a very strong program to go get Osama bin Laden," he said.

The 1995 intelligence was specific enough that "if that was today, you'd have (Bush Homeland Security Director) Tom Ridge going out and saying we have this threat," said former Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla., who in 1995 was a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

McCollum formed a congressional task force in the late 1980s that began warning of the growing threat of terrorism, and which issued some of the 1995 alerts.

"For a good number of years, there was a failure to acknowledge the severity of the threat," he said. "There really had been this disbelief or unwillingness to scare people."

Former Clinton White House press secretary Joe Lockhart said "protecting America against terrorists was a high priority" during the 1990s. "Threat information regularly came in and steps were taken to deal with it," he said.

"In general, the record is very clear that the Clinton administration increased counterterrorism funding and focus more than any other prior administration based on the emerging threats," Lockhart added.

Some of the 1995 warnings were pointed.

"Iranian sources confirmed Tehran's desire and determination to strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future," said a Feb. 27, 1995, terror warning by the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.

The warnings became increasingly specific as to the possible location, type of attack and likely dates.

"These strikes are most likely to occur either in the immediate future or in the new Iranian year - starting 21 March 1995," the congressional task force predicted.

U.S. intelligence monitored a series of meetings and conferences between senior officials of Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and other terror organizations in mid-February 1995 in which the subject of killing Americans on U.S. soil came up, officials said.

During these conferences, known terrorists made specific mention of Congress and the White House as "institutions that are great enemies of the Islamist movement," according to a congressional warning.

"This is a deviation from past discussions beyond referring to the U.S. as a single entity to pointing to specific branches of government as their true enemies," it added.

Around the same time, the FBI received intelligence from the Philippines that two men later convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing had been arrested as they were plotting to blow up U.S. airliners. The men planned to hijack one airliner and crash it into the CIA, Pentagon or White House, documents show.

The marshal's warning explained that Islamic extremists had issued a fatwa to kill marshals personnel or strike their buildings because of an episode at the end of the World Trade Center bombing trial in which deputy marshals accidentally stepped on a copy of the Koran during a scuffle.

"Allegedly, the fatwa is being disseminated to persons in the United States who have the capability to carry it out," the memo said.

The terrorists could be suicide bombers who may "target as many victims as possible and draw as much media coverage as possible," it added. "Once the press is on the scene the new plans call for blowing up everyone."


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KEYWORDS: cia; fbi; fredthompson; okcbombing; oklahomabombing; terrorism
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: mille99; All
Ignore her, leave her posts without any replies. She's only baiting us, looking for some ill-considered reply that she thinks will prove her point about conservatives.

Like a stray dog at the back door begging for a bone she'll slink away eventually.

22 posted on 06/20/2002 6:30:08 AM PDT by wtc911
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To: AmericaNeedsDemocrats; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; Congressman Billybob; Miss Marple
You might want to look at an article from the April 29, 2002 Washington Post that highlights an interesting alliance between neo-Nazis and Islamic radicals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A64385-2002Apr28

And McVeigh might look like a WASP, but he was influenced by the writings of William Pierce, who also does regular interviews on Radio Iran. This sort of alliance seems to go pretty far back (1991), and as such, McVeigh might have a lot in common. Both National Socialists (Nazi is just a German abbreviation for that, by the way) and these folks who follow the perverted form of Islam that condones suicide bombers and terrorism have one thing in common: Virulent anti-Semitism.

I'm not able to prove that Islamic terrorists aided the Oklahoma City bombing, using home-grown neo-Nazis/far-right-wing groups as the fall guys, but it does warrant a closer look bythe FBI and CIA.

I also personally believe that those who believe in the perverted form are a lot more numerous than some would believe, although I do not believe it applies to ALL of those who practice that religion. We truly appear to be facing an axis of evil, IMHO.

23 posted on 06/20/2002 6:38:33 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
I agree. Interesting to see the connection being made in the AP.

In my opinion, the terrorists have been actively recruiting for years in lots of fringe areas...prisons, radical college groups, ghetto areas, gangs, etc. This is why profiling is only a partial solution.

McVeigh would not have been caught by profiling (unless one did a background check on his connections).

ALL suspicious activity should be reported, whether activity is by Middle Eastern types or not.

I am also struck by the number of stupid attempts we are beginning to see...blatant attempts to buy all sorts of equipment, photo taking of potential targets, etc.

Possible reasons for this include the following:

1.) Because of increased monitoring of communications and the arrests of quite a few folks, the footsoldiers are having to dream up plans themselves, and they are poor at planning and deception.

2.) There is increased pressure to get operations underway because they know their time here will be limited once another big attack occurs.

3.) Big time cash rewards are being offered for the successful accomplisihment of a mission, or relatives in home countries have been threatened if things aren't accomplisihed quickly.

I suggest everyone be extra alert.

24 posted on 06/20/2002 6:50:09 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: grimalkin
Is it just me or does this seem like an extremely important story deserving of front page headlines on every major newspaper in the country?
25 posted on 06/20/2002 6:53:34 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Dog
I take great exception to one of the sentences in this article that said the Clinton Administration beefed up security at Federal Buildings. That is a lie at least as far as the Federal Building in San Antonio which was not beefed up until AFTER the Murrah bombing.

So much for this all being the handiwork of domestic terrorists which I have never believed!
26 posted on 06/20/2002 7:02:32 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Dog
Thanks, bump !
27 posted on 06/20/2002 7:03:41 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: PhiKapMom
I'm beginning to wonder as well. You'd think, however, that our guys could
come up with something definitive, even given how kringtone tried to suppress
the CIA by effectively ceasing to hire new spies.

28 posted on 06/20/2002 7:06:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: piasa
And to think just last night I was chastised for saying the DemocRATS were coming on here posting! Strange coincidence that so many newbies that post immediately turn out to be DemocRAT.

I have experience with those folks from the Bush/Cheney Yahoo Group I moderate except on there their anti-Bush, pro-clinton postings come to me for moderation when they are new posters! Since we instituted that, the level of discourse has improved dramatically. Have never seen as much trash sent out as I have witnessed with the email from the DemocRATS in the last few months that are trying to send to a group that has been in existence since 1998. The email I reject is similar in nature to some of these posts on here that have been bashing so much.
29 posted on 06/20/2002 7:09:29 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: MeeknMing
Am with you all the way on this one! Have a hunch that the surface has just been scratched. Would guess that one Terry Nichols sitting in the OK County Jail is thinking about what he should do since he is facing 168 counts of murder here in the State Court of Oklahoma.

McVeigh was never going to talk and was becoming a thorn in the side of the survivors and the people of Oklahoma with his interviews trying to claim all the credit and be a martyr. Nichols is a whole different person and for life in prison I will bet he will talk with all this starting to come out.
30 posted on 06/20/2002 7:13:12 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: MeeknMing
IMHO, this seems to add to the likelihood that the people trying to hijack Islam are allying with the neo-Nazis.

There was a thread on this a while back. Take a look. I think this is truly an axis of evil.

http://www.freerepublic.com/fo cus/news/674485/posts
31 posted on 06/20/2002 7:14:36 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: grimalkin; PJ-Comix; aristeides; Fred Mertz
The U.S. Marshal's Service issued an alert on March 15, 1995, to federal courthouses it protects, including the one in Oklahoma City across the street from where McVeigh's truck bomb killed 168 people, the documents show.

"Iranian extremists want it made clear that steps are being taken to strike at the Great Satan," a term used frequently in the Mideast to describe the United States, the marshal's memo said. It said a fatwa - a religious order - had been issued to attack marshals or their buildings.

If this is accurate, it means that U.S. intelligence had far better and detailed info on Islamic threats in the mid-90's than it did in 2001. But in 1995, after WTC #1, the feds embraced the domestic terrorists and stomped on all leads to Middle Easterners. In 2001, within minutes, and not even yet knowing the identity of the hijackers, the attack was almost immediately attributed to Bin Laden.

32 posted on 06/20/2002 7:15:19 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: wtc911
You're right, I guessed originally that she/he/it was an Iranian, but after 'it' sent some freepmails my way it was obvious that this person is just a run-of-the-mill loon, as only a true lefty or someone adopted into their cult starts crying 'racist' when they get flamed on a thread where no one has brought up race.

DU really should persuade its members not to try to freep while 'under the influence.'

33 posted on 06/20/2002 7:19:32 AM PDT by piasa
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To: hchutch
I also personally believe that those who believe in the perverted form are a lot more numerous than some would believe, although I do not believe it applies to ALL of those who practice that religion. We truly appear to be facing an axis of evil, IMHO.

Steve Harrigan, the Fox News correspondent who's been covering (really covering it, as opposed to Whoraldo), the war/terrorist activity abroad since 9/11, is now stateside (before returning to Israel) and was interviewed on Fox & Friends this AM. A caller asked him a question about Islamic terrorism, and his answer was not encouraging -- the word he used was "discouraging" -- and added that he believes the terrorist situation in Israel is the precursor of what we will see here. He's a man of few words, and the tone of his words were chilling, considering where he's been and what he's seen in the past nine months.

34 posted on 06/20/2002 7:27:05 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: piasa
Actually, as this Irish-American has to admit with chagrin, McVeigh was, by origin, an Irish Catholic. Us Irish people don't like to be confused with WASPs, especially those of us who happen to be Catholic: we're neither Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant, so only the "W" of "WASP" applies to us. Methinks AmericaNeedsDemocrats must have an agenda, to so misuse the term.
35 posted on 06/20/2002 7:31:49 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: hchutch
I've been convinced of that since the period right before 9/11 (and which stopped 3 days prior) when FR was getting plastered with neo-nazi and palistinian supporters working in tandem.

Another concern of mine is that there were incidents in the 90s where Cuba interfered with the NYC air traffic control system, and Cuba's very recent cozying up to Iran, where Castro spoke before their politicians about bringing the US to its knees, together with Iran.

Something bigger than just al-Qeada has been going on.

36 posted on 06/20/2002 7:34:54 AM PDT by piasa
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To: PhiKapMom
It is also a lie with respect to the U.S. Tax Court building in D.C., where I was working as law clerk to a judge at the time of the OKC bombing. Security was stepped up at that building after the bombing, not before, even though U.S. Marshals (according to this article a target of the terrorists) provided security for the building.
37 posted on 06/20/2002 7:35:55 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: PhiKapMom
I don't know- if there is a link with islamicists, then Nichols is going to clam up tight if he's looking at a life in prison among a bunch of islamic converts. He'll have more to fear from them than he does from the feds.
38 posted on 06/20/2002 7:40:21 AM PDT by piasa
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To: hchutch
"IMHO, this seems to add to the likelihood that the people trying to hijack Islam are allying with the neo-Nazis."

I seem to recall a biography on McVeigh where after the Gulf War he had started expressing sympathy towards the Iraqis. I wonder if this led him to Islamic groups within the US? Just a thought.

39 posted on 06/20/2002 7:46:02 AM PDT by Liberty Teeth
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To: piasa
And I bet Bush knows it. Axis of evil was not a slip of the tongue, IMHO. He used it with malice aforethought, and I bet a lot of the same folks who were leaking stuff to Gertz at The Washington Times kept this stuff, and gave him the data.

Do you recall some of the thread these disruptors you mentioned hit?

40 posted on 06/20/2002 7:46:31 AM PDT by hchutch
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