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'Pride' of suicide attacker's mother
BBC ^ | 6/18/02 | Orla Guerin

Posted on 06/18/2002 8:34:41 AM PDT by MVV

Tuesday, 18 June, 2002, 10:15 GMT 11:15 UK

'Pride' of suicide attacker's mother

Naima al-Obeid and her son, Mahmoud, in Hamas video

Naima: "This is the best day of my life"

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By Orla Guerin


BBC Middle East correspondent

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In Gaza, the mother of a Palestinian suicide attacker who killed two Israelis before being shot dead has spoken of her feelings about her son's actions.

A video released by Hamas shows a proud mother taking up arms beside her favourite son.


We believe our sons go to heaven when they are martyred... when [Jewish] sons die they go to hell


Naima al-Obeid

First a warm embrace, then a loving kiss.

Naima al-Obeid was saying goodbye to her 23-year-old Mahmoud, a college student on his way to carry out a suicide attack.

"God willing you will succeed," she says.

"May every bullet hit its target, and may God give you martyrdom. This is the best day of my life."

Mahmoud says: "Thank you for raising me."

Naima got her wish.

Mahmoud was shot dead attacking the Jewish settlement of Dugit in the Gaza Strip on Saturday.

Deaths celebrated

Two Israeli soldiers were killed in the ambush.

Their deaths are being celebrated near Mahmoud's home.

Funeral of Israeli soldier, Hezki Gutman, killed by Mahmoud al-Obeid

Obeid killed two Israelis before being shot dead

We found crowds coming to the mourning tent - and not just because of him.

People here aren't just remembering Mahmoud - they are honouring his mother.

She has become a heroine, being talked about on the streets, praised in the local papers.

Some Palestinians are taking a great deal of pride in a mother who saw her son go to kill and die without shedding a tear.

They are already saying she will inspire other women to do the same.

Heaven and hell

In her home, in Gaza, she showed me pictures of the son she calls "my heart".

She had no sympathy for the dead Israelis, no regrets over the loss of her own son.

"Nobody wants their son to be killed. I always wanted him to have a good life.

"But our land is occupied by the Israelis. We're sacrificing our sons to get our freedom," she told me.

I asked her if it mattered whether her son killed women and children.

"The women and children are also Jews," she said, "They're all the same for me.

"And I want to tell Jewish mothers - take your children and run from here because you will never be safe. We believe our sons go to heaven when they are martyred. When your sons die they go to hell."

Naima is surrounded by well-wishers, no one asking why she gave her son a licence to kill.

She has nine more children, whom, she says, all have a duty to fight the Israeli occupation.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: bombing; israel; isreal; palestinians
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To: antivenom
These same Palestinians for days after 9-11, were celebrating in the streets. I personally felt satisfaction and joy when the Israelis went into their towns and made them cry. I certainly will look forward to seeing more of their crocidile tears in front of the cameras the upcoming days when Israel takes her revenge.
21 posted on 06/18/2002 10:12:59 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Bommer
...greedy, stupid, homely, delusional brood mare (note equine dentition/mandible).
22 posted on 06/18/2002 10:14:06 AM PDT by yianni
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To: antivenom
When the Palis gave the Jordanian government problems, they kicked their asses out of Jordan. Israel, what's holding you back?
23 posted on 06/18/2002 10:17:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Isadora Duncan
Well, we knew that when they started bombing innocent civilians, especially the old ladies and kids. These are the behaviors of lower life forms.
24 posted on 06/18/2002 10:19:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: yianni
What makes me angry is that Bush and the State Department still don't get it. They want to give in to these savage subhuman beasts and grant them the eastern half of Israel as a "state". Total war to destroy the Palestinian people is the only solution. Anything less will lead to more of the same. I don't understand how Israeli's continue to do NOTHING in response to thousands of terror attacks.
25 posted on 06/18/2002 10:21:16 AM PDT by EdoTerglav
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To: MVV
Kick all of the palestinians out of Israel and into Syria.
26 posted on 06/18/2002 10:24:13 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Dogbert41
I personally felt satisfaction and joy when the Israelis went into their towns and made them cry.

The crying is OK...as long as they soon attain a body temperature matching ambient temperature.

I keep trying to find the "good Palestinians"...but it's a search in vain...just like
for "moderate Muslims" (except in a few pockets like Turkey)
27 posted on 06/18/2002 10:42:54 AM PDT by VOA
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To: MVV
We believe our sons go to heaven when they are martyred...
when [Jewish] sons die they go to hell


If they have "hate speech" codes in Palestine...they must be something like
"If you don't have something hateful to say about Jews, make something up!"
28 posted on 06/18/2002 10:44:24 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Bommer
Israel needs to nuke that b!tchs' house!

At this moment I have absolutely no problem with my tax dollars being used
to assist the IDF in purchase of aerial surveillance drones and Hellfire missles.

And for any new advanced surgical-strike weapons in the future, such as the
smart bombs that claim we'll soon have a 200 pound bomb that can do just about
as much damage as our current 2,000 pound bombs.

Technology...sometimes it's a VERY GOOD THING.
As we found out on two occassions in August of 1945.
29 posted on 06/18/2002 10:48:48 AM PDT by VOA
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To: MVV
Their deaths are being celebrated near Mahmoud's home.

And Satan is very pleased.

These Palestine women must be sterilized. Lives depend on it.

30 posted on 06/18/2002 10:53:11 AM PDT by kstewskis
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To: MVV
Hmmmm, once again I wonder if killing the families of suicide bombers would be a deterrent.
31 posted on 06/18/2002 10:59:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DoughtyOne
These bombings will continue until Israel starts killing all known family members of the attackers. I hate to say this, but since the families celebrate their attrocities, I guess they're nothing less than accomplices.

Yep, if they are paid, and they usually are, they are accomplices. At the very least they should be jailed for life.

32 posted on 06/18/2002 11:01:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Constitutional Patriot
The American people (based to some extent on seeing the growing sentiments here on FR) are waking up to the true face of Our Enemy of the 21st Century.

It is not 'terrorism' per se (that is too vague and subjective of a politically correct, acceptable and harmless term that avoids 'offending' our sense of 'diversity'). No, the Enemy is :

RADICAL FUNDAMENTAL ISLAMISTS

(Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaida, al-Quinoon.... you name it)

Now that we know who they are and what their unyielding intent is, we need to go on the offensive and annihilate not negotiate. Any and all who support their barbarian actions should likewise we put down.

33 posted on 06/18/2002 11:17:02 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: MVV
What a pity that Sharon is not the Hitler the arabs try to make him out to be. Gassing this subhumanoid female and her Pali ilk would be a service to humanity. Turning the entire Middle east into Israeli Lebensraum would end poverty there and save the USA billions in economic aid that we foolishly give to this worthless scum.

The Palis can thank their pathetic little god allah that I am not the Fuhrer of Israel. No one would speak of Hitler anymore because he would look like a boy scout compared to me.

34 posted on 06/18/2002 11:17:42 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: antivenom
Annihilating the FAMILIES of Radical Islamist Terrorists and leveling their Arabic hometowns, is probably the ONLY tactic that will yank their chains, that will freeze their nuts, that will grind their gears. Then, perhaps, they will back off and stop.

In their suicidal psychosis, either their threatened arrest or death is STILL not a deterrent. Sad to say but I am coming to this conclusion.

Gee, now I know how Truman must have felt about having to involve the civilians down in Hiroshima and Nagasaki just to deliver the death knell to the Japanese Military. But he had little choice. Sad it has to come to this perhaps.

35 posted on 06/18/2002 11:22:06 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: MVV
We're sacrificing our sons to get our freedom,

Quit honestly, words fail me. I cannot imagine how any woman, after having carried a life inside of her and raising it to manhood could conceivably condone, let alone promote, this type of action. If she cares nothing for the Israelis, you'd at least think about losing her own son. She is lower-than-dirt. A filthy woman that makes me ashamed to be a woman. A filthy pond-scum excuse for a human. A no-good breeder of murders that should have been sterilized at birth! -- gee, maybe words don't fail me after all. All who think/believe as this 'woman' does should be immediatly incinerated in a real (nuclear) holocaust before they have a chance to breed and raise more murders.

36 posted on 06/18/2002 11:27:43 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Or, we or Israel can continue to take the 'Guantanamo Bay-ACLU' approach.

We lost Vietnam because we failed to fight our enemy as they fought us. We are making the same mistake. Call it our Western, Judeo-Christian benevolent naivety. But it may well be the downfall for Israel and ourselves, considering the immoral, totally worthless scum we are up all against now.

37 posted on 06/18/2002 11:28:04 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: antivenom
the PEACEFUL Islamists

That sir, is an oxymoron.

38 posted on 06/18/2002 11:57:47 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: ladtx
A college student?

Islamic studies. Not a real college but a human bomb factory.

39 posted on 06/18/2002 12:04:58 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: AmericanInTokyo
We have a big problem on our hand. Too much emotion, and hate prevents us from seeing clear as what we can do to combat this lunacy.

First, these crazy people keep killing themselves, one after the other. Their families are happy for their death because “our friend”, Saudi Arabia is giving them lots of money!

Second, the hate propaganda machine is going full blast at all Moslem countries. It is fully supported by ALL these Moslem governments! The campaign is very successful in recruiting martyrs. The underground network which is afforded full support from ALL Moslem governments is also very successful in smuggling plastic explosives to the terrorists. The explosive materials purchased from the west under legal governmental contracts. What in the heck are we going to do about that?

We are up against a killer bees nest, that is multiplying faster than we can even detect where they are coming from. In the mean time, we are burdened by our legal system, the liberals, the constitution, the international code of conducts. So is there anything that we can do?

Yes, but it requires honest talk to heads of states. No diplomatic threat! Just plain threat: We catch another terrorist from Saudi Arabia, and we will kill the King and his family! Let the king worry about controlling his subjects, and stop financing cells of terrors around the globe in the name of Islam? Or we catch a terrorist from Egypt, and we will kill the Egyptian president, his defense minister, and the grand mufti of El Azhar?

As you know, little people don’t know crap in these third world countries. It is their western educated intellectuals, and government leaders who are indirectly pulling the strings. Therefore, if we posed the threat directly to the people in control, we may start to get results.

On parallel, we must also give them a carrot, along with the stick. We should offer an immediate recognition of a Palestinian state in the current West Bank, and Gaza. That does not take much! In addition a time-line to dismantling of some of the Jewish settlements. And a promise to discuss returning some of the lands in the near future after this mess is is quieted down!

The longer we look the other way. The longer we think that we are going to bomb these angry people to submission, the more we are going to extend the suffering of the innocent Israeli civilians.

40 posted on 06/18/2002 12:11:51 PM PDT by philosofy123
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