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Good-Bye Cruel Free Republic
6-16-02 | wasfree

Posted on 06/16/2002 5:32:24 AM PDT by magnum opus dejure

Well, it's been 4 years since I first found Free Republic. I have always felt like I belonged here and have really enjoyed the banter back and forth between us members. I am afraid all this is now over. I am really suprised and shocked at it's suddenness. Before I leave I want to thank a freeper from Michigan who sent me a DVD player last year to give to my kids for Christmas. You reaffirmed my faith in humanity.

I know this thread will be deleted before many people get to read it, but I just can't go without saying a final word. Every since 911 the 'vibe' here at FR has been decidedly hostile. I guess it was a matter of time before the newbie moderator got around to weeding me out for my sometimes unpopular views. So I join the ranks of A+Bert and so many others who gave FR a interesting flavor. I will miss coming here 20 times a day and keeping up on things. But without posting priviledges there is just no point. I must go find another conservative group to try to be a part of.

In the future, when a freeper who has been a loyal member since August 1998 crosses the line, how about a note instead of banning? Would that have been too much? I may have gotten out of line, how is beyond me, but if such a tresspass would have been pointed out I would gladly have refrained from doing so again. It is just not right to just ban an account with no explaination. Especially when the freeper has been here 4 years. I have no idea what I am going to do with my days now that I no longer have FR. Well, I guess I have said my part. It is a sad day when one has to leave family and friends. I feel like some of you were just that. But apparently I am no longer wanted around here. I bid my good day to you all and hope that karma pays it's respects to those who do injustice.


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To: Demidog
Incidently, if we're playing military decorations poker I have a nice hand myself. What cards do you hold?
1,021 posted on 06/16/2002 10:08:57 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Jhoffa_
"I mean honestly, what else is left to say?"

Wanna talk about how FOIA's expedited requests for media members is, with the proliferation of the Internet, quite outdated and needs changed?

1,022 posted on 06/16/2002 10:09:17 PM PDT by toenail
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To: Demidog
"The fact that you are impugning the character of a decorated war hero should make you extremely ashamed of yourself. You are dispicable."

Some call John McCain a "decorated war hero", as well. That will not stop me from impugning his character.....if there is any left.

1,023 posted on 06/16/2002 10:10:21 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: another cricket
Thank you. I will look that book up. parsy
1,024 posted on 06/16/2002 10:10:44 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: Demidog
The fact that you are impugning the character of a decorated war hero should make you extremely ashamed of yourself. You are dispicable.He was damning him with his own words so why shoot at Kevin?

I am very pro Veteran but that doesn't mean I take everything they say as unvarnished truth.

1,025 posted on 06/16/2002 10:11:40 PM PDT by zip
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To: Roscoe, Demidog
"Commodore Edward Preble (1803-4) forced Morocco out of the fight and his five bombardments of Tripoli restored some order to the Mediterranean."

Following the Congress' affirmation of a State of War. (Jefferson Papers, the source which you are citing, May 13, 1791)

1,026 posted on 06/16/2002 10:11:50 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Yeah, Ros, and if I formally authorize you to "move forward" onto one step of my property with my express consent, I can still legally proescute you for trespassing if you take another step.

You are correct - and when you can show that Bush has gone beyond what Congress has let him, you'd be really correct. But you're not really correct.

1,027 posted on 06/16/2002 10:12:13 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Kevin Curry
I only have a ranger tab and airborne wings, plus some miscellaneous salad.
1,028 posted on 06/16/2002 10:12:40 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Howlin
You haven't seemed to need my permission to post misinformation before now.

Post it, Howlin, or retract.

1,029 posted on 06/16/2002 10:12:41 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: carenot
Thank you for caring, but I have a real thick head and my feelings are intact. parsy the brave
1,030 posted on 06/16/2002 10:12:51 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: Texasforever
Congress thereafter enacted a statute authorizing the President to instruct the commanders of armed vessels of the United States to seize all vessels and goods of the Bey of Tripoli ''and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify . . .''

Another good catch.

1,031 posted on 06/16/2002 10:13:01 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: parsifal
Whay are they keeping the guys cell lights on? parsy.

Well, it can be used to disorient if you are in solitary. But as he is not and he does have contact with the outside world I would guess that they have him on suicide watch. You never know when he might decide to gnaw open his wrists or something. They do seem to love martyrdom.

a.cricket

1,032 posted on 06/16/2002 10:14:16 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: Lancey Howard
But I like the odds as low as possible,

Me,too!

and the brutal, ruthless prosecution of this 'war on terror' will help lower the odds.

I agree! So,when are we going to attack Saudi Arabia?

Kowtowing to the knee-jerk "civil rights" screechers and the pissants of political correctness (especially the "ethnic profiling" hand-wringers) is no way to fight this kind of war.

I agree with the PC aspects of what you said,but what is wrong with insuring US citizens being given their Constitutional rights?

Some rules may need to be bent, and I can live with that.

Which ones? The ones against free speech? Gun possession? How about the right to have a warrant issued before a search?

I trust this President and his administration.

I don't trust ANY administration or president when it comes to safeguarding my freedoms. They ALL need to be closely watched. Thank God George W. Bush and company are so easily able to dismiss the frightened mice and their enablers.

Seems to me he has mostly sang soothing songs to the mice. You are not one bit safer today that you were on 9-10. All this airport security crap is just a "feel good" dog and pony show to put the mice back to sleep.

1,033 posted on 06/16/2002 10:14:22 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Texasforever
Wars are "Declared" only against sovereign nations in order to formally notify them that a state of war exists between two sovereign states. The Declaration of War is a diplomatic formality. A Congressional Authorization to Use Force fulfills all the Constitutional requirements regarding the war making powers of Congress.

Neither the Taliban militia nor the Al Qaeda terrorist network is considered a sovereign nation and therefore a declaration of war is not appropriate in this war.

Likewise, the United States never considered the Confederate States of America to be a sovereign nation and war was never declared by Congress during the Civil War.

Prior to the Barbary War, Congress debated whether or not to declare war on the Barbary States. Congress decided that the Barbary States were no more than a collection of pirates and to declare war would dignify them with the status of sovereign states. Therefore, Congress refused to declare war and instead passed an Authorization to Use Force.

In the same Barbary War, President Thomas Jefferson stated that a declaration of war was unnecessary, whether the Barbary States were sovereign states or not, because the Barbary States had already caused a state of war to exist by attacking the United States and therefore a state of war already existed. In other words, Thomas Jefferson recognized that a Declaration of War was a diplomatic courtesy between sovereign states before the bullets started flying.

1,034 posted on 06/16/2002 10:15:14 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Following the Congress' affirmation of a State of War.

Was that a formal declaration of war or just more squirming?

1,035 posted on 06/16/2002 10:15:24 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: another cricket
Oh, that just sounds like they're being mean.They could station a guard outside his cell and let him get some sleep. parsy.
1,036 posted on 06/16/2002 10:15:49 PM PDT by parsifal
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Following the Congress' affirmation of a State of War.

Did you read my link? There was NO formal declaration of War. The congress passed a joint resolution to acknowledge that a state of war existed an in effect forced Jefferson to do his duty. That Joint resolution was NOT a DOW but the same type of joint resolution that Bush is operating under.

1,037 posted on 06/16/2002 10:16:03 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: deport
For example, Padilla may be held indefinitely without being charged until the U.S.-declared war against terrorism ends, said John McGinnis.

Do you ever expect the war on terror to end?

That war on drugs will give you an idea when it will end.

1,038 posted on 06/16/2002 10:17:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Yeah, Ros, and if I formally authorize you to "move forward" onto one step of my property with my express consent, I can still legally proescute you for trespassing if you take another step.

A squirming non sequitur. Nice to see some variety.

1,039 posted on 06/16/2002 10:17:53 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: toenail

Ya know, I think you have a point..

But it's really late. We can call each other names over that tomorrow.

:)

1,040 posted on 06/16/2002 10:18:52 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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