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To: Polycarp
Arroyo is absolutely correct.

I do wish people would stop confusing celibacy with chastity, though. The vow of celibacy is a vow never to formally marry. The vow of chastity is the vow to behave themselves. In French the word "celibataire" simply means a bachelor, in accord with the Latin.

Pray to St. Peter Damian for reform.

6 posted on 06/15/2002 12:18:34 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
In French the word "celibataire" simply means a bachelor, in accord with the Latin.

As does the Latin root, I understand. In normal usage in present-day English, however, "celibate" means to be unmarried and refrain from sex. The only ones who use the word depending on its etymology are the gay priests and seminarians and their supporters; they're being disingenuous and they know it is, quite literally, "double-talk."

7 posted on 06/15/2002 2:42:01 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Dajjal
celibacy (sèl´e-be-sê) noun
1. Abstinence from sexual intercourse, especially by reason of religious vows.
2. The condition of being unmarried.

chastity (chàs´tî-tê) noun
1.The condition or quality of being pure or chaste.
2.a. Virginity. b. Virtuous character. c. Celibacy.

[Middle English chastite, from Old French chastete, from Latin castitâs, from castus, pure. See chaste.]

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.

8 posted on 06/15/2002 4:40:09 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Dajjal
If you want to play semantics games, fine. But the fact is, even accepting your literal definition, a celibate Catholic is by default a chaste Catholic. Catholics are not supposed to have sex outside of marriage. That means if you ain't married, you ain't having sex. Ever.
36 posted on 06/15/2002 10:35:30 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Dajjal
I do wish people would stop confusing celibacy with chastity, though. The vow of celibacy is a vow never to formally marry. The vow of chastity is the vow to behave themselves

Which I believe is the reason for the Pope's recent statement on preparing men for the priesthood and men and women for the religious life. He re-states the Church's teachings on celibacy, stressing chastity. In the Church's mind, the two are synonymous, and anyone who tries to separate the two in order to bypass the teaching is trying to justify sinful behavior.

43 posted on 06/15/2002 10:44:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Dajjal
The vow of celibacy is a vow never to formally marry. The vow of chastity is the vow to behave themselves

Great clarification.

56 posted on 07/17/2002 9:58:59 AM PDT by Salvation
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