[Black Agnes]

Eco wacko bump. These guys don't just want to save a few trees and wildlife areas for posterity, they think YOU are the enemy!

[Mediaeval]

Earth First!!! We'll strip mine the other planets next!

[scarface367]

All of these morons always say we need to get rid of car and other modern items. Ask one of them to give up their car. At a recent rally in Texas, and bunch of eviro-wackos shows up in an SUV that gets oh, about 9 miles per gallon.

[tang-soo]

Maurice Strong is very wealthy and a big time one worlder ...

The real goal of the Earth Charter is that it will in fact become like the Ten Commandments. -Maurice Strong

Do not do unto the environment of others what you do not want done to your own environment....My hope is that this charter will be a kind of Ten Commandments, a 'Sermon on the Mount', that provides a guide for human behavior toward the environment in the next century. -Mikhail Gorbachev, The Los Angeles Times, May 8, 1997

A post-Christian belief system is taking over - one that sees the earth as a living being mythologically, as Gaia, Earth Mother - with mankind as her consciousness... Such worship of the universe is properly called cosmolatry. -Donna Steichen, Ungodly Rage, p. 237

In 1992 Maurice Strong was the Secretary General of the historic United Nations (UNCED) Earth conference in Rio. This gathering featured an international cast of powerful figures in the environmental movement, government, business, and entertainment. Maurice Strong's wife Hannah, was involved in the NGO alternative meeting at the Summit called Global Forum '92. The Dalai Lama opened the meeting and, according to author Gary Kah, to ensure the success of the forum, Hanne Strong held a three-week vigil with Wisdomkeepers, a group of "global transformationalists." Through round-the-clock sacred fire, drumbeat, and meditation, the group helped hold the "energy pattern" for the duration of the summit.

List of Earth Charter Co-Chairs

1.Kamla Chowdhry, India
2.Mikhail Gorbachev, Russia
3.Mercedes Sosa, Argentinia
4.Maurice Strong, Canada
5.Amadou Toumani Toure, Mali
6.A.T. Anyaratne, Sri Lanka
7.Princess Basma Bint Talai, Jordan
8.Leonardo Boff, Brazil
9.Pierre Calame, France
10.Severn Cullis-Suzuki, Canada
11.Wakako Hironaka, Japan
12.John Hoyt, U.S.A.
13.Ruud Lubbers, The Netherlands
14.Wangari Maathai, Kenya
15.Elizabeth May, Canada
16.Federico Mayor, Spain
17.Shridath Ramphal, Guyana
18.Henriette Rasmussen, Greenland
19.Steven Rockefeller, U.S.
20.Mohamed Sahoun, Algeria
21.Awraham Soetendorp, The Netherlands
22.Pauline Tangiora, New Zealand
23.Erna Witoelar, Indonesia

The Georgia Guidestones and the Earth Charter

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
Read more about this at Radio Liberty.

Also, look for anything written by Henry Lamb on the web for more info.

[Minnesoootan]

Give me any one of these people and one square mile of North Eastern Minnesoota forest and I will have them lost in under a minute,and I bet it wouldn't even have to be cloudy or dark.

[Ladybug1]

"Whole regions perhaps that will be free of human interference." Shall we start with making it off limits to Edward Abbey first?

[StriperSniper]

Ping! One for you.

[backhoe]

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[Belial]

I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.

[chimera]

In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."

-Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991

If he really said this and means it, this is one bloodthirsty dude. Maybe we're better off that he's dead. The average fatality rate during World War I was 6,000 deaths per day. During World War II it was about 20,000. This guy is proposing a holocaust that dwarfs those tragedies by an order of magnitude.

Or am I reading it wrong (I hope so)?

[Straight Vermonter]

Go here for why they are wrong.

[Zon]

"We have got to share this planet with the other living creatures, and sharing means not merely preserving them in zoos or National Parks, but setting aside huge areas. Whole regions perhaps that will be free of human interference. Ideally, I would like to see certain large areas of the planet set off-limits to human entry of any kind, even aerial over flights."

Then why don't you and the "we" you speak of go out and buy some land with your own money and leave my and other taxpayers money alone.

"The only hope of the Earth is to withdraw huge areas as inviolate natural sanctuaries from the depredations of modern industry and technology. Move out the people and cars. Reclaim the roads and the plowed lands."

No doubt you'd agree that you should be the first to be moved out to an uninhibited island in the South Pacific.

"At first glance, a vision of North America with regained wildness and biodiversity seems unrealistic, even utopian. But when we consider that restoration at this scale is a process requiring decades or even centuries, it begins to make sense."

Mark Twain once wrote: "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."

"Does all the foregoing mean that Wild Earth and The Wildlands Project advocate the end of industrialized civilization? Most assuredly. Everything civilized must go..."

Then you'll feel right at home with Dave Foreman on that uninhibited island in the South Pacific.

"The crucial paradigm shift the Deep Ecology movement envisions as necessary to protect the planet from ecological destruction involves the move from an anthropocentric to a spiritual/ecocentric value orientation...Humanity must drastically scale down its industrial activities on Earth, change its consumption lifestyles, stabilize and then reduce the size of the human population by humane means, and protect and restore wild ecosystems and the remaining wildlife on the planet."

Mark Twain once wrote: "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."

"Furthermore, most attempts to use sustainability as a management paradigm have been anthropocentric, biased toward commodity production, and seriously flawed from a biological standpoint."

If you're not anthropocentric (human-centered) what are you,,,, a Klingon?

"Our vision is simple: we live for the day when Grizzlies in Chihuahua have an unbroken connection to Grizzlies in Alaska; when Gray Wolf populations are continuous from New Mexico to Greenland; when vast unbroken forest and flowing plains again thrive ans support pre-Columbian populations of plants and animals; when humans dwell with respect, harmony, and affection for the land; when we come to live no longer as strangers and aliens to this continent."

Aleins???...Are you a Klingon too!?

Many ecologist (myself included) would just as soon see huge areas of land kept off limits to human activities of any kind."

You and Edward Abbey (quoted at the top of this post and article) should go out and buy some land with your own money and leave my and other taxpayers money alone.

One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshis... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."

So you're the fool that Twain identified in making his astute observation that; "It is better to sit in silence and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."

"it is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class, involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and workplace air conditioning, and suburban housing, are not sustainable."

Clear?? Yes, your functioning brain appears to be clear of rational thought.

"I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today" [and] "We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox."

Well, then you'd certainly agree with yourself being the first to go in order to lessen any supposed overpopulation problem. Don't forget to say good-by to mom and the kids, or will you be taking them to their deaths along with you?

[Avoiding_Sulla]

One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshis... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."

-Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991

"It is a horrible thing to say?". Hey Jacques. How else are we patrons going to get our planet's population down to only half a billion? For someone who fully embraced the new paradigm, you sure exhibited too much conscience for your own good. Maybe that's why you're now dead. Mum is the word, eh, Jean-Michael? hehehe. </sarcasm>

For more insights into this anti-Human world see the "Death cultivation" bumplist and
Human Sacrifice Rationalization in 7th Grade Curriculum

Logical inversions: Many prominent arguments today just don't make sense

Review some of my comments at these.

[Junior]

Now how in the heck are they going to enforce this? If there are lots of areas of open wilderness with no roads, trails, whatnot, there are going to be a whole lot of people who will gravitate to such areas simply to be left alone (or to escape the law).

[mc5cents]

One American burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshis... This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."

-Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, 1991

Wow. Ole Jacques must have been a big fan of people like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. What a guy. He must have swallowed too much sea water.

[Aeronaut]

"You wanna save an endangered species? Let sportsmen and hunters manage them; they'll flourish"

Ted Nugent

[cascademountaineer]

(((ping)))

[Glutton]

"One final paragraph of advice: Do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am --- a relunctant enthusiast . . . a part-time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic. Save the other half for yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it's still here. So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, encounter the grizz, climb the mountains, bag the peaks, run the rivers, breath deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, that lovely mysterious and awesome space. Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to the body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those desk-bound people with their hearts in a safe deposit box and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators. I promise you this: you will out live the [deleted]."

Quote by Edward Abbey. Taken from The Earth Speaks by Steve Van Metre

[Flyer]

I hope these folks are around in a few million years when the earth begins it's inevitable death spiral into the sun.

"We must stop the universe to preserve nature!"

[Aurelius]

"The crucial paradigm shift the Deep Ecology movement envisions as necessary to protect the planet from ecological destruction involves the move from an anthropocentric to a spiritual/ecocentric value orientation...Humanity must drastically scale down its industrial activities on Earth, change its consumption lifestyles, stabilize and then reduce the size of the human population by humane means, and protect and restore wild ecosystems and the remaining wildlife on the planet."

-George Sessions, editorial advisor, Wild Earth magazine

I don't have much use for these people and suspect their motives. But what this guy suggests here may also represent the only way to restore genuine human freedom. Restoring freedom requires the elimination of government and nothing much short of the above is going to accomplish that.