Judge sentences man to 25 years for beating trick-or-treater

AP ^ | June 12, 2002

[Cultural Jihad]

VICTORVILLE, Calif. (AP) - A man described by a judge as "an evil monster" was sentenced to 25 years in prison for using a baseball bat, metal pipe and golf club to attack a 12-year-old Halloween trick-or-treater on his doorstep.

[Texaggie79]

No it isn't. It is totally relevant that the intended use of a hard drug is a threat to those around the user, therefore a violation of their rights.

[Roscoe]

What is so hard about a yes/no question?

Our systems of laws are more complex than the simplistic formulations of libertines.

Some alcoholic beverages are legal, some aren't. Some drugs are legal, some aren't.

[Alan Chapman]

...you [Roscoe] are analgous to the idiot Mrs. Swan character on Mad TV.

That's an insult to Ms. Swan.

[tpaine]

If the state, without consent of the majority suddenly banned bicycles just for the heck of it, that would be arbitrary and purposeless. -- tex

You got 'it' on bikes, -- to bad you can't understand the same principle appies to booze, guns, -- and even drugs. - 324 by tpaine

That is because the majority of the state supports hard drug prohibition, therefore it is not arbitrary; and they support that position because they view it as too much of a threat, therefore it is not purposeless.

What can I say to that bit of nonsense? - I'll assume that you THINK you've made a point. -- In actuality I'd guess its a vaguely circular argument. -- Care to explain?

[Roscoe]

So, do you believe rights come from government, society, or Ben Franklin?

Different rights have different sources. The right to swim in a public pool comes from society.

Where do you contend that right comes from?

[Live free or die]

So what about the tens of thousands of violent beatings administered by drunk people in this country, as well?

So what about them? They should get the same as this creep. As for me, I've never gotten so drunk that I didn't know what the hell I was doing!

It's called personal responsibility...you don't know what it is? You better ask somebody.

[Roscoe]

You're letting your frustration get to you.

[tpaine]

We need a bigger 2X4.

[Texaggie79]

So you lemme see. You and a stranger are in the same room. You can choose whether that strange man will either have some shots of premium tequila, or he take some military grade PCP(made for the purpose of giving a man superhuman strength and aggression). Which would you choose?

[Texaggie79]

I have shown not only that hard drugs can be Constitutionally prohibited by states, but also that there is just cause to do so.

[tpaine]

I don't answer silly 'roscoe' type questions.

[Alan Chapman]

...the intended use of a hard drug is a threat to those around the user, therefore a violation of their rights.

The intended use of a hard drug guns is a threat to those around the user, therefore a violation of their rights.

The intended use of a hard drug religion is a threat to those around the user, therefore a violation of their rights.

The intended use of a hard drug speech is a threat to those around the user, therefore a violation of their rights.

[Texaggie79]

Translation: I really don't have an argument, but I will try to keep the facade going that I do have one by refusing to answer.

[Roscoe]

Sourceless is as sourceless does.

[Texaggie79]

All three are guaranteed rights bud.............

[Roscoe]

The intended use of a guns is a threat to those around the user, therefore a violation of their rights.

All human activities have societal consequences. The implication that all activities are "essential liberties" is juvenile nonsense.

The "right" to use crack doesn't equal the right to keep and bear arms.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

Franklin wasn't a simpleton.

[tpaine]

Dementia, -- and no doubt there are thousands of freepers watching this debate that agree with you?

[Texaggie79]

I guess we shall never know, unless they speak up.......

[tpaine]

Get over it, -- I've answered that same 'question' many times over in the past.

[tpaine]

All three are guaranteed rights bud.............

Check out the 9th 'bud'. -- Enumeration is NOT required.